Originally Posted by
LarryS
This is what I dont understand and maybe I can get a direct answer from the man himself. John Patrick makes the same claim as Mr Singer and when questioned all he can do is ban.
The declaration both men make is that they play in the short run, so math can be set aside at will.
So Mr Singer is an educated man. At least in terms of schooling.
Is it not true that dice, a spinning ball, a deck of cards, or a VP machine has no recognition of time. Would you get the same result flipping a coin 100,000 times in one day vs flipping it once a day for 100,000 days. Or a spin of the roulette wheel 100,000 times in a day vs 100,000 times in your lifetime. Again similar results. The coin or the ball knows not when the clock strikes midnight and a new day begins. Or when your session is supposed to end. Its all math and probability.
So by declaring that "I only bet in the short term" that is fine if you are on a vacation in vegas and only bet for the week and then go home to the farm in Kansas and never bet again. But if you are a regular bettor....thenover time..you have entered "the long run" you are governed by math and probabilities.
I am not a mathematician so I cant giver you a hard number as to how many rolls, hands, coin flips constitute entering "the long run"....but over a lifetime....the people on thisboard and all regular gamblers are indeed playing in the long run, and math applies to us all,
So since John Patrick declares the same thing as Mr Singer..bur patrick wont back up his declaration......please Mr Singer....give me a cogent explanation as how you can sidestep the math and probabilities that all the rest of us mere mortals have to contend with.
declaring that math doesnt apply to you is just as logical as declaring that gravity doesnt apply to you
This is the interview link... just look at this guy. You are going to give this guy the time of day? He really can't explain what he is talking about if you listen to him. Talk about
Earnest Byner Fumbling!?
This might not answer your questions but if you watch the interview with Rob and Alan you will hear Rob state that the Casino might be cheating with the machines. He hints or claims that he doesn't know and that it could very well be rigged in some way. So if you watch and listen to that interview it is clear Rob has found the formula that the machine is set at or cheating and he can abuse the patterns to create daily wins. This is the same garbage that players have sold books and advice on about Reels or Slots. They claim that they have found the certain cycles that the Reels are in or they get into this garbage about a 30 million spin cycle.
In my opinion this is no different compared to what was going on 175 to 100 years ago with the Medicine Shows. Some people call them snake oil salesmen. You will notice that those three words start with SOL. SOL has another meaning as well and I am sure you know what it stands for.
I have searched for two days and it is clear that not one AP or successful gambler takes Robs claims seriously. A few of them have reviewed his books and they were very nice about it and so was the Wiz but it is apparent they were just being nice and didn't say what they really thought even though they hinted at it. If people want to believe this guy played machines with strategy and lost 250k and decided to change the math because of the cheating machines and after that he won over a million playing some progression system they are allowed to believe that. Just like people bought the Medicine Shows Tonic. They really thought it would cure them. Some people around the world claim they can pull cancer out of your body as well and people fly and pay big money to get scammed by them as well.
You will see members like BH, Rob, Mr V and perhaps a few others try to discredit my information but nobody can even begin to go into great detail showing us how my information is wrong. The reason is because I play in the Casino constantly and have for over two decades. My information isn't ten years old or stories of the glory days. I post up current information and keep it current. You can see my photos are for March and April. MC added those April pictures up and said it was 4k but if you go back and add it up you will see that it is almost 5k. Those are 8 mailers... I have over 60 total. For a very long time I have been generating 10k-20k in mail. These guys want me to show them how it can translate to 100k per year which I showed them on the Hot Sucker thread. As a matter of fact, I typed out a short novel on how to go about it. They didn't read it. They just said it was BS or it had 1000s of red flags. They certainly did not break it down like I break it down in public. I am not charging anyone 5 dollars for the book or information. They want to know how do you make 100k... as I said and have always said... players cards. Players Cards are the power that is why they are sought after and people like WoN and others pay people for them or make deals for them. The more players cards the more money... it is that simple. You find games where all you need is a 1% return on your investment and you spread it out as far as you can. So some guys have 100 cards or others have 40. It isn't that difficult. Let's say you do have 40 cards that you work off of. All you need is a goal of 10 million coin in or invested. You will get all your investment back plus 1% after the year. When you play this many hands the math has no problem working its way out to the exact numbers. So with 40 cards you are going to put in 250k per card for the year... you spread that out with 10-15 Casinos. You find the correct thresholds that offer the better mailers through experience and word of mouth. You just have to play a rotation game now. I like to play with 15 to 20 cards so that I can earn the top tier cards all over and keep them rolling. At some places like downtown you don't need as much coin in and when you play Reels you don't need as much either.
Now you don't have to work as hard or even try for the 100k per year return... you can play far less aggressive and make 30k to 50k per year. As always... crazy things happen all the time and you find mistakes or promotions or something else to create large windfalls. I am tired of explaining how it is really done but this should open the door some more for you to understand.