The WoV Thread

[MisterV]

. You mean Dickey videos....I'm attempting to imagine that. Dickey waking up in his car (after trying to impress everyone about how he stays in Motel 6's) with steamy windows & sticky floor mats from his usual morning rosey palmer toss-off, grabbing a quick shave before stumbling into his newest Indian casino with a bar of soap and his lice-infested comb....and all the while coming up with one-liners for his new publication "How I Made It To 65 Without Brains, an Education, A Girlfriend To Clean My Chocolate-Stained Underwear, or a Dental Plan". About as far as he'll ever get with a publication....

That's not really fair, is it?

He's gone from rags to (near) riches, and you've gone from near riches to what, exactly?

I give the former bum props for pulling his ass out of the gutter, finding an angle and running with it.

[mickeycrimm]

yes, and I can get on a soapbox in the park and rant about the trade deficit, and then call myself a "public speaker"
I can stand on a corner and give people directions if they ask me and I can call myself a "teacher"
I can pick sports teams to bet daily and I can call myself a "professional"

its just ways for people who are bereft of credentials to self elevate themselves. Mom and dad let me introduce you to my fiance.....she is a homeless crack addict that gives people directions, has posted on the internet a dozen years ago, and she bets sports with stolen money to support her habit while giving her fellow junkies tips(investment advice). As she stands there picking at her infected sores on her arm and stinking to high heaven, I conclude with....she is the love of my life.....a published author, a professional investment advisor, and a teacher........the trifecta

SO......NO,,,,,posting on a website does not make you a published author in the eyes of 99.9 percent of rationally thinking people, giving advice on sports pics does not make someone an "investment advisor" and answering someones questions does not make someone a teacher., while pushing buttons on a machine does not anyone a "professional".....its all just bullshit that redietz wants to use to self elevate himself in his own eye.....but he just cant get the rest of the world to buy in.

I actually have had some things published that would make me a "published author in the eyes of 99.9 percent of rationally thinking people," so thanks for the kudos, LarryS. Much appreciated.

I'm still trying to figure out how posting on a website forum is significantly different than starting up a website and blogging or paying a vanity press. It's all self-publishing. While surveys are lovely, I'm sure the erudite among us could explain the significant and dramatic differences between starting threads on forums, blogging on websites, and self publishing e-books.

Self publishing a book or vanity publishing gives one a credential of a "self published author".........which is a credential that is worht shit, just as the guy at the meadowlands racetrack sold cheaply printed xeroxed copies of his dailypicks.....he was also a self published author. Self publishing is meaningless...just as meaningless as posting on the internet.
Its all totally self inflating nonsense when someone calls themselves a "published author" and leaves out it was a self published book.
Self publishing requires no expertise, no ability to spell, or write cogent sentences.....all you need is a thousand or 2 ...and a computer program. There are printing houses that will print any crap you give them. A crack addict can get access to a computer, and type incoherent pages and if they have money...it will be published.

Its like masturbation compared to real sex with a hot woman. You can brag about howmany orgasms you had in your life...but if they all came when you were alone in your mons basement...its not worth bragging about.

self publishing is nothing to brag about. Its self indulgent trash.

Perhaps you haven't heard that lots of musicians don't sign with record companies anymore. They make their own recordings and sell them themselves. As one musician told a record company exec "What can you do for me that I can't do myself?"

Now, larry you have advantage play reduced to "pushing buttons." If it were that easy why don't you go do it and make a ton of money. Anyone can push buttons on a machine but 99% of the public can't find the advantages in the casino (and that includes you). That's what advantage play is all about, having the knowledge and requisite skills to find and play the advantages. Button pushers are a dime a dozen, advantage players aren't.

[mickeycrimm]

I'm up for some Mickey videos.

. You mean Dickey videos....

I'm attempting to imagine that. Dickey waking up in his car (after trying to impress everyone about how he stays in Motel 6's) with steamy windows & sticky floor mats from his usual morning rosey palmer toss-off, grabbing a quick shave before stumbling into his newest Indian casino with a bar of soap and his lice-infested comb....and all the while coming up with one-liners for his new publication "How I Made It To 65 Without Brains, an Education, A Girlfriend To Clean My Chocolate-Stained Underwear, or a Dental Plan". About as far as he'll ever get with a publication....

I've really hit a nerve. Rob has now gone bonkers. He's blowing a gasket. Rob, have you considered anger management classes?

[Bill Yung]

Anyone can push buttons on a machine but 99% of the public can't find the advantages in the casino.

You couldn't pay normal people to look. You do it because you think you are getting away with something. People are easy to set up, in this case by the casinos, of course.

[mickeycrimm]

Anyone can push buttons on a machine but 99% of the public can't find the advantages in the casino.

You couldn't pay normal people to look. You do it because you think you are getting away with something. People are easy to set up, in this case by the casinos, of course.

Your ignorance is pervasive. I do it because it's worth 10K a month. Most of the button pushers in the casinos work their asses off for less than half that then go blow it in the casino because they are totally oblivious to advantages that can be found. If they knew they could make 10K a month in a casino they would be doing it....many of them quitting their jobs.

Believe whatever you want to believe but don't bore me with it.

[Rob.Singer]

. You mean Dickey videos....I'm attempting to imagine that. Dickey waking up in his car (after trying to impress everyone about how he stays in Motel 6's) with steamy windows & sticky floor mats from his usual morning rosey palmer toss-off, grabbing a quick shave before stumbling into his newest Indian casino with a bar of soap and his lice-infested comb....and all the while coming up with one-liners for his new publication "How I Made It To 65 Without Brains, an Education, A Girlfriend To Clean My Chocolate-Stained Underwear, or a Dental Plan". About as far as he'll ever get with a publication....

That's not really fair, is it?

He's gone from rags to (near) riches, and you've gone from near riches to what, exactly?

I give the former bum props for pulling his ass out of the gutter, finding an angle and running with it.

All's fair V. I've never been "near riches". Of course, it may SEEM as such to the level I'm talking to here, but where I come from and what I've done, it's no more spectacular than what the everyday hard working man achieves along with the ability to know how to have a long-term respectable marriage. And what exactly am I today? Nothing more than someone who long ago prepared for a lengthy, happy, and healthy retirement.

Now to the bum. Someone who "pulled themselves out of the gutter" and claims to never lose while making $10k/mo. with two-bit gambling would be filing tax returns, he'd be staying at decent hotels instead of the cheap motels he says he frequents or spending the nights in his vanilla car, he wouldn't be bothering with an EBT card, his alcohol consumption wouldn't require "I Drink Alone" to be blasting from hanging speakers, and he'd have at least one friend that he doesn't have to conjure up from yesteryear.

In God We Trust.

[mickeycrimm]

You're only hurting yourself, Rob. Get help.

[mickeycrimm]

This is for mickey when he's alone tonight....once again. That's Cindy with our daughter when my wife was 28. What mickey calls "heavy" at 132 lbs. today, he'd consider obese at 120 lbs. 36 yrs. ago.

Have a good time tonight mickey!

Luckily for the little girl she doesn't look like an Argentino. Rob got cuckholded.

[redietz]

. You mean Dickey videos....I'm attempting to imagine that. Dickey waking up in his car (after trying to impress everyone about how he stays in Motel 6's) with steamy windows & sticky floor mats from his usual morning rosey palmer toss-off, grabbing a quick shave before stumbling into his newest Indian casino with a bar of soap and his lice-infested comb....and all the while coming up with one-liners for his new publication "How I Made It To 65 Without Brains, an Education, A Girlfriend To Clean My Chocolate-Stained Underwear, or a Dental Plan". About as far as he'll ever get with a publication....

That's not really fair, is it?

He's gone from rags to (near) riches, and you've gone from near riches to what, exactly?

I give the former bum props for pulling his ass out of the gutter, finding an angle and running with it.

All's fair V. I've never been "near riches". Of course, it may SEEM as such to the level I'm talking to here, but where I come from and what I've done, it's no more spectacular than what the everyday hard working man achieves along with the ability to know how to have a long-term respectable marriage. And what exactly am I today? Nothing more than someone who long ago prepared for a lengthy, happy, and healthy retirement.

Now to the bum. Someone who "pulled themselves out of the gutter" and claims to never lose while making $10k/mo. with two-bit gambling would be filing tax returns, he'd be staying at decent hotels instead of the cheap motels he says he frequents or spending the nights in his vanilla car, he wouldn't be bothering with an EBT card, his alcohol consumption wouldn't require "I Drink Alone" to be blasting from hanging speakers, and he'd have at least one friend that he doesn't have to conjure up from yesteryear.

In God We Trust.

Sure sounds like someone with a happy and healthy retirement. Probably the poster child for happy and healthy. Maybe get some T-shirts printed up, "I'm happy and healthy." Or perhaps some tattoos. Happy on the left bicep; healthy on the right. Yeah, that's the ticket.

[mickeycrimm]

That's not really fair, is it?

He's gone from rags to (near) riches, and you've gone from near riches to what, exactly?

I give the former bum props for pulling his ass out of the gutter, finding an angle and running with it.

All's fair V. I've never been "near riches". Of course, it may SEEM as such to the level I'm talking to here, but where I come from and what I've done, it's no more spectacular than what the everyday hard working man achieves along with the ability to know how to have a long-term respectable marriage. And what exactly am I today? Nothing more than someone who long ago prepared for a lengthy, happy, and healthy retirement.

Now to the bum. Someone who "pulled themselves out of the gutter" and claims to never lose while making $10k/mo. with two-bit gambling would be filing tax returns, he'd be staying at decent hotels instead of the cheap motels he says he frequents or spending the nights in his vanilla car, he wouldn't be bothering with an EBT card, his alcohol consumption wouldn't require "I Drink Alone" to be blasting from hanging speakers, and he'd have at least one friend that he doesn't have to conjure up from yesteryear.

In God We Trust.

Sure sounds like someone with a happy and healthy retirement. Probably the poster child for happy and healthy. Maybe get some T-shirts printed up, "I'm happy and healthy." Or perhaps some tattoos. Happy on the left bicep; healthy on the right. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Rob likes to tell people that he's happy but you can tell by what he writes he's a very miserable person.

[MisterV]

All's fair V. I've never been "near riches".

Sure you have.

You talked about earning $250K per year from your day job; presumably that job lasted for awhile and presumably set you for life.

You had every advantage, apparently: it's surprising the house of cards collapsed on you in '96, leading to your filing chapter 7.

[mickeycrimm]

. You mean Dickey videos....I'm attempting to imagine that. Dickey waking up in his car (after trying to impress everyone about how he stays in Motel 6's) with steamy windows & sticky floor mats from his usual morning rosey palmer toss-off, grabbing a quick shave before stumbling into his newest Indian casino with a bar of soap and his lice-infested comb....and all the while coming up with one-liners for his new publication "How I Made It To 65 Without Brains, an Education, A Girlfriend To Clean My Chocolate-Stained Underwear, or a Dental Plan". About as far as he'll ever get with a publication....

That's not really fair, is it?

He's gone from rags to (near) riches, and you've gone from near riches to what, exactly?

I give the former bum props for pulling his ass out of the gutter, finding an angle and running with it.

Careful how you use the word "bum." I guarantee you I've worked harder in my lifetime, hard physical labor, than any person on this board. That's how I know I can slap Rob down in a heartbeat. He has air conditioned sinuses.

[Bill Yung]

MC, the casinos did a blow job on your life. So here you are arguing with Singer. Lol.

[mickeycrimm]

MC, the casinos did a blow job on your life. So here you are arguing with Singer. Lol.

You have the same penchant for making up lies about people that Rob does.

[redietz]

MC, the casinos did a blow job on your life. So here you are arguing with Singer. Lol.

Did the mental hospital test to many drugs on you today?

You know, for a gambling site, there sure are a boatload of proclamations, opinions, and general non-factual information being broadcast as to what priorities people should have, what their goals in life should be, and how they should behave. Not much about gambling from the folks doing the proclamating (note to Bill Yung: once again, not a word).

So I have to think the proclamators (correct, also not a word) don't have much to offer vis-à-vis gambling or Las Vegas (really, how often is Argentino in Las Vegas these days?).

Now I myself don't have much in the way of opinion regarding life values and all that. If people want to be "normal" -- seems to be a priority for Mr. Yung -- and conflate addiction with recreation, I'm all for it. I hope people abide by the math and protocols of Mr. Mendelson and Argentino until the cows come home, but I do feel obligated to argue when they baldly state their math and protocols as something they are not, namely as ways to win going forward.

Maybe a "Las Vegas and Gambling Factual Information Thread" could be kept separate from a "Las Vegas and Life Opinions Thread."

[Bill Yung]

MC, the casinos did a blow job on your life. So here you are arguing with Singer. Lol.

Did the mental hospital test to many drugs on you today?

You know, for a gambling site, there sure are a boatload of proclamations, opinions, and general non-factual information being broadcast as to what priorities people should have, what their goals in life should be, and how they should behave. Not much about gambling from the folks doing the proclamating (note to Bill Yung: once again, not a word).

So I have to think the proclamators (correct, also not a word) don't have much to offer vis-à-vis gambling or Las Vegas (really, how often is Argentino in Las Vegas these days?).

Now I myself don't have much in the way of opinion regarding life values and all that. If people want to be "normal" -- seems to be a priority for Mr. Yung -- and conflate addiction with recreation, I'm all for it. I hope people abide by the math and protocols of Mr. Mendelson and Argentino until the cows come home, but I do feel obligated to argue when they baldly state their math and protocols as something they are not, namely as ways to win going forward.

Maybe a "Las Vegas and Gambling Factual Information Thread" could be kept separate from a "Las Vegas and Life Opinions Thread."

Like I said, it's a gambling site, and gambling is about everything except what it really is. Nobody wants to talk about it. Eg, there's nary a whisper about problem gambling at the Wiz's. Everybody comes on to say that God proclaimed to go gamble. Not in so many words, but they do. (Gambling isn't really about which way is best.)

[Alan Mendelson]

This site is a joke.

[MisterV]

This site is a joke.

What, alan, is his recognizing that people post about most everything other than the 800 pound gorilla in the room hitting a bit too close to home?

I'm talking about "gambling addiction."

Yung is correct in that it is a subject oft overlooked, when it arguably should be confronted and discussed front and center.

I'd be willing to bet (see?) that most of the regular, long time participants in gambling forums do so to supplement their gambling action, to get just a small jolt of the dopamine generated when they gamble in the casino.

But I can understand our seeming reluctance to confront the obvious: it takes strong men to admit they are weak.

[AxelWolf]

This site is a joke.

What, alan, is his recognizing that people post about most everything other than the 800 pound gorilla in the room hitting a bit too close to home?

I'm talking about "gambling addiction."

Yung is correct in that it is a subject oft overlooked, when it arguably should be confronted and discussed front and center.

I'd be willing to bet (see?) that most of the regular, long time participants in gambling forums do so to supplement their gambling action, to get just a small jolt of the dopamine generated when they gamble in the casino.

But I can understand our seeming reluctance to confront the obvious: it takes strong men to admit they are weak.

If you get married at a craps table I think it's a safe bet that person had/has an addiction to gambling.

If you can afford it, and you're not really hurting anyone, I say who really cares. Even if you can afford it, I would assume it can be bad for relationships.

[redietz]

This site is a joke.

What, alan, is his recognizing that people post about most everything other than the 800 pound gorilla in the room hitting a bit too close to home?

I'm talking about "gambling addiction."

Yung is correct in that it is a subject oft overlooked, when it arguably should be confronted and discussed front and center.

I'd be willing to bet (see?) that most of the regular, long time participants in gambling forums do so to supplement their gambling action, to get just a small jolt of the dopamine generated when they gamble in the casino.

But I can understand our seeming reluctance to confront the obvious: it takes strong men to admit they are weak.

I think the biggest advantage I have gambling versus Bill Yung's "normal folks" is that I don't particularly like to do it.