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  1. #1941
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by Keystone View Post
    Those videos with Alan and Singer are the epitome of 2 con men in action...I felt like taking a shower to cleanse myself after watching for 5 minutes of these 2 shysters...Alan is the kind of guy you need to check your back pocket to make sure your wallet is there after meeting him, and what can you say about Singer?. He looks like a hobo that just got a day vacation from under his bridge
    What are the odds.....that WoV rejects can't get anyone over here to believe their bs, so they turned to name-calling as a last resort!

    What would BBB say....
    Yeah- knew it would happen. I like getting involved because by mentioning my topics I get a tidbit once in a while- usually a reminder at least. I couldn't give a flip otherwise. Looks like this session is over!!

  2. #1942
    My book deal required that none of the royalties go to me. They went straight to charities, my daughter, my son, and my sick uncle.

    your education seems to exceed your intelligence.
    Who the fuck cares if you receive funds directly from the sale of the book and write a check to the people you mentioned, or if you let someone else distribute the money to them on your behalf directly?

    Whats he difference between you pocketing the money from the sale of the books. And then deciding to help out those people by writing them a check using different money.

    Its all a money shell game that you use to convince yourself that the people who bought the books with your name on it were NOT customers.

    you lack sane logic.

  3. #1943
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by LarryS View Post
    The machines, the roulette wheels, the dice, the BJ cards do not know the difference between night and day, or numbers on a calendar.....its all about numbers......numbers of coin flips, numbers of wheel spins, numbers of dice tosses, numbers of "Hands"..........it never has anything to do with the month or year(unless you only play a few hands and never play again). Once you get into the multi hundreds of thousands of spins, rolls, hands......then you are in the long run....and declaring that you are not in the long run is the line a con man uses to con the ignorant. Unfortunately the ignorant are not populating this board so you don't get alot of positive feedback. But its not to say there isn't some ignorant folks lurking. you might still have a few customers available.

    Actually the blackjack cards "do know the difference between night and day", as you term it LarryS. What makes blackjack different from the others games mentioned is that the cards do have a memory (so to speak). Unlike the other games mentioned each round of blackjack is NOT independent of the other rounds that came before it, or will come after. Instead the results of the current round and future rounds are influenced if not determined by the earlier rounds and the cards that have been taken out of play in those earlier rounds. That is the basis of card counting. Easiest (and extreme) example is single deck. A couple players and dealer. First round, one player is dealt A,6, second player A,A and the dealer has a blackjack. Good luck getting dealt a blackjack in future rounds with no aces remaining.

    However blackjack aside, the rest of your post is spot on, not that it will make a difference. Singer will spin it to support his conman ideas.

    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    You've seen that idiot kew claim how EV trumps actual results because, well, he Loses! And yes, dummies like him want everyone to think that they'll "win it all back and more" because of a few theoretical percentage points. But they never will come out and actually say that, simply because they know they'll sound like they're "due" or they "feel a hot streak is coming".
    I never said "I was due" or "a hot streak was coming". What I said was over the long run, many, many trial, results and expectation will come together. That is not theory it is fact. The Law of Large Numbers.

    While still a relatively small sample size, my numbers for this partial year (2018) bear this out. Despite that day (an $8000 loss IIRC) that you, Alan and the rest of people that don't have a clue like to continue to crow about, I am right where I should be for the year, almost exactly (just a hair below) expectation at with an actual BJ win for the year of 24,637.50, vs expectation (accumulated EV) of $25,365. That day frequently mentioned by those who simply don't understand has absolutely no significant meaning what-so-ever, other than the EV (expected value) that was generated. That continues to be my most productive day of the year.

    Here is another one that you, Alan and the rest of the 'clueless club' can add to your arsenal. The month of April. Actual win of over $8200 for me, but EV generated was only $1500 because I played very sparingly due to my partners passing and extended trip back east. $8200 win means nothing. At the end of the year or whatever long-term measure one uses, what matters will be the EV generated and that makes April and the $1500 EV generated my worse month of the year by far for me (in more ways that one )
    I tried to make sense of what you wrote above but there is so much gay lingo that I couldnt figure out what you are saying. Remember this isnt pickapenis.com or cockalicious.com ...this is a gambling forum.

  4. #1944
    The world's longest biography My Life Sucking Cock by LarryS.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  5. #1945
    Originally Posted by pepe View Post
    Originally Posted by Bill Yung View Post
    I was wondering what he did with the 6,000+ posts here. Lol. And Mickey's another one to talk it up. The casinos made out okay on him, too. Professional shills.
    i personally have made money based on stuff I learned from Mickey's posts. Mickey is legit.
    Even whether you, too, make $500 a day, neither of you is really winning. The casinos are in decline, but not because you are (really) beating them. Mickey has no real element of control, and hence no real satisfaction with it.

    At best we have a job, self-employed or other, with real benefits such as family and health. And a plaque on the wall for forty years of dedicated service. Things that comfort us in perilously peculiar and withering times. And at worst, a job for a job's sake that stops the second it is stopped, everyday. Mickey doesn't really look ahead because he never really looked behind to what he or the kids around him really had in their youth.

    I'm guessing that the casinos that still tolerate him do so because they think that he is good for business. Certainly, there is no "under the radar" or repeated "hit and run" stuff with the casinos. And Mickey can't now understand, or even appreciate, the value in "stopping when ahead" the real daily grind of a normally satisfying job.
    78255585899=317*13723*17989=(310+7)*[(13730-7)*(100*100+7979+10)]-->LOVE avatar@137_371_179_791, or 137_371_17[3^2]_7[3^2]1, 1=V-->Ace, low. 78255585899-->99858555287=(99858555288-1)=[-1+(72*2227)*(722777-100000)]={-1+(72*2227)*[(2000+700777+20000)-100000]}-->1_722_227_277_772_1. 7×8×2×5×5×5×8×5×8×9×9=362880000=(1000000000-6√97020000-100000)-->169_721. (7/8×2/5×5/5×8/5×8/9×9)={[(-.1+.9)]^2×(6+1)}-->1961=√4*2.24; (1/7×8/2×5/5×5/8×5/8×9/9)={1/[7×(-.2+1)^2]}-->1721=[(10*10/4)/(√4+110)].

  6. #1946
    Originally Posted by LarryS View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post


    Actually the blackjack cards "do know the difference between night and day", as you term it LarryS. What makes blackjack different from the others games mentioned is that the cards do have a memory (so to speak). Unlike the other games mentioned each round of blackjack is NOT independent of the other rounds that came before it, or will come after. Instead the results of the current round and future rounds are influenced if not determined by the earlier rounds and the cards that have been taken out of play in those earlier rounds. That is the basis of card counting. Easiest (and extreme) example is single deck. A couple players and dealer. First round, one player is dealt A,6, second player A,A and the dealer has a blackjack. Good luck getting dealt a blackjack in future rounds with no aces remaining.

    However blackjack aside, the rest of your post is spot on, not that it will make a difference. Singer will spin it to support his conman ideas.

    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    You've seen that idiot kew claim how EV trumps actual results because, well, he Loses! And yes, dummies like him want everyone to think that they'll "win it all back and more" because of a few theoretical percentage points. But they never will come out and actually say that, simply because they know they'll sound like they're "due" or they "feel a hot streak is coming".
    I never said "I was due" or "a hot streak was coming". What I said was over the long run, many, many trial, results and expectation will come together. That is not theory it is fact. The Law of Large Numbers.

    While still a relatively small sample size, my numbers for this partial year (2018) bear this out. Despite that day (an $8000 loss IIRC) that you, Alan and the rest of people that don't have a clue like to continue to crow about, I am right where I should be for the year, almost exactly (just a hair below) expectation at with an actual BJ win for the year of 24,637.50, vs expectation (accumulated EV) of $25,365. That day frequently mentioned by those who simply don't understand has absolutely no significant meaning what-so-ever, other than the EV (expected value) that was generated. That continues to be my most productive day of the year.

    Here is another one that you, Alan and the rest of the 'clueless club' can add to your arsenal. The month of April. Actual win of over $8200 for me, but EV generated was only $1500 because I played very sparingly due to my partners passing and extended trip back east. $8200 win means nothing. At the end of the year or whatever long-term measure one uses, what matters will be the EV generated and that makes April and the $1500 EV generated my worse month of the year by far for me (in more ways that one )
    I tried to make sense of what you wrote above but there is so much gay lingo that I couldnt figure out what you are saying. Remember this isnt pickapenis.com or cockalicious.com ...this is a gambling forum.
    Yes, this IS a gambling forum. It is YOU that should try to remember this.

    I don't know what your problem is, but there was no "gay lingo" nor a single gay reference in my post. It was strictly on topic of gambling, specifically blackjack AP. If you don't understand some of the concepts, then ask someone. Don't just fly into a homophobic rant because you don't understand something.

    I will ask this of the forum members here: Is there anyone.....anyone, friend or foe, including those that have a strong dislike of me, for whatever reason, that sees anything in my post, completely on the topic of gambling/AP that sees any kind of "gay lingo" or gay reference? (other than in Larry's homophobic mind)

    LarryS, YOU seem to be the one completely obsessed with cock, and sucking dick. Just as you have on other forums you constantly make references, when there is no one else talking about nor interested in the subject. It seems to consume you. Wonder why?
    Last edited by kewlJ; 05-15-2018 at 08:33 AM.

  7. #1947
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I will ask this of the forum members here: Is there anyone.....anyone, friend or foe, including those that have a strong dislike of me, for whatever reason, that sees anything in my post, completely on the topic of gambling/AP that sees any kind of "gay lingo" or gay reference?
    The font changes and emojis are effeminate.

    So is the consistent drama queen behavior.

    Let's face it...you're a complete tewl.

  8. #1948
    I have always felt that sucking dick is an advantage play--as long as I am the suckee.

  9. #1949
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by LarryS View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post


    Actually the blackjack cards "do know the difference between night and day", as you term it LarryS. What makes blackjack different from the others games mentioned is that the cards do have a memory (so to speak). Unlike the other games mentioned each round of blackjack is NOT independent of the other rounds that came before it, or will come after. Instead the results of the current round and future rounds are influenced if not determined by the earlier rounds and the cards that have been taken out of play in those earlier rounds. That is the basis of card counting. Easiest (and extreme) example is single deck. A couple players and dealer. First round, one player is dealt A,6, second player A,A and the dealer has a blackjack. Good luck getting dealt a blackjack in future rounds with no aces remaining.

    However blackjack aside, the rest of your post is spot on, not that it will make a difference. Singer will spin it to support his conman ideas.



    I never said "I was due" or "a hot streak was coming". What I said was over the long run, many, many trial, results and expectation will come together. That is not theory it is fact. The Law of Large Numbers.

    While still a relatively small sample size, my numbers for this partial year (2018) bear this out. Despite that day (an $8000 loss IIRC) that you, Alan and the rest of people that don't have a clue like to continue to crow about, I am right where I should be for the year, almost exactly (just a hair below) expectation at with an actual BJ win for the year of 24,637.50, vs expectation (accumulated EV) of $25,365. That day frequently mentioned by those who simply don't understand has absolutely no significant meaning what-so-ever, other than the EV (expected value) that was generated. That continues to be my most productive day of the year.

    Here is another one that you, Alan and the rest of the 'clueless club' can add to your arsenal. The month of April. Actual win of over $8200 for me, but EV generated was only $1500 because I played very sparingly due to my partners passing and extended trip back east. $8200 win means nothing. At the end of the year or whatever long-term measure one uses, what matters will be the EV generated and that makes April and the $1500 EV generated my worse month of the year by far for me (in more ways that one )
    I tried to make sense of what you wrote above but there is so much gay lingo that I couldnt figure out what you are saying. Remember this isnt pickapenis.com or cockalicious.com ...this is a gambling forum.
    Yes, this IS a gambling forum. It is YOU that should try to remember this.

    I don't know what your problem is, but there was no "gay lingo" nor a single gay reference in my post. It was strictly on topic of gambling, specifically blackjack AP. If you don't understand some of the concepts, then ask someone. Don't just fly into a homophobic rant because you don't understand something.

    I will ask this of the forum members here: Is there anyone.....anyone, friend or foe, including those that have a strong dislike of me, for whatever reason, that sees anything in my post, completely on the topic of gambling/AP that sees any kind of "gay lingo" or gay reference? (other than in Larry's homophobic mind)

    LarryS, YOU seem to be the one completely obsessed with cock, and sucking dick. Just as you have on other forums you constantly make references, when there is no one else talking about nor interested in the subject. It seems to consume you. Wonder why?


    I saw a quote from Singer and he’s the biggest cock sucker in the business. So yes, I saw some gayness in the post.

  10. #1950
    Originally Posted by Bill Yung View Post
    Originally Posted by pepe View Post
    Originally Posted by Bill Yung View Post
    I was wondering what he did with the 6,000+ posts here. Lol. And Mickey's another one to talk it up. The casinos made out okay on him, too. Professional shills.
    i personally have made money based on stuff I learned from Mickey's posts. Mickey is legit.
    Even whether you, too, make $500 a day, neither of you is really winning. The casinos are in decline, but not because you are (really) beating them. Mickey has no real element of control, and hence no real satisfaction with it.

    At best we have a job, self-employed or other, with real benefits such as family and health. And a plaque on the wall for forty years of dedicated service. Things that comfort us in perilously peculiar and withering times. And at worst, a job for a job's sake that stops the second it is stopped, everyday. Mickey doesn't really look ahead because he never really looked behind to what he or the kids around him really had in their youth.

    I'm guessing that the casinos that still tolerate him do so because they think that he is good for business. Certainly, there is no "under the radar" or repeated "hit and run" stuff with the casinos. And Mickey can't now understand, or even appreciate, the value in "stopping when ahead" the real daily grind of a normally satisfying job.
    Ask your boss for a twenty-five cent an hour raise. You deserve it for being a good lackey.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  11. #1951
    You think that you have been through a lot, but you ain't done been through nothing. Freedom is about the connections you make, not the ones you don't try to make.
    78255585899=317*13723*17989=(310+7)*[(13730-7)*(100*100+7979+10)]-->LOVE avatar@137_371_179_791, or 137_371_17[3^2]_7[3^2]1, 1=V-->Ace, low. 78255585899-->99858555287=(99858555288-1)=[-1+(72*2227)*(722777-100000)]={-1+(72*2227)*[(2000+700777+20000)-100000]}-->1_722_227_277_772_1. 7×8×2×5×5×5×8×5×8×9×9=362880000=(1000000000-6√97020000-100000)-->169_721. (7/8×2/5×5/5×8/5×8/9×9)={[(-.1+.9)]^2×(6+1)}-->1961=√4*2.24; (1/7×8/2×5/5×5/8×5/8×9/9)={1/[7×(-.2+1)^2]}-->1721=[(10*10/4)/(√4+110)].

  12. #1952
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by LarryS View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post


    Actually the blackjack cards "do know the difference between night and day", as you term it LarryS. What makes blackjack different from the others games mentioned is that the cards do have a memory (so to speak). Unlike the other games mentioned each round of blackjack is NOT independent of the other rounds that came before it, or will come after. Instead the results of the current round and future rounds are influenced if not determined by the earlier rounds and the cards that have been taken out of play in those earlier rounds. That is the basis of card counting. Easiest (and extreme) example is single deck. A couple players and dealer. First round, one player is dealt A,6, second player A,A and the dealer has a blackjack. Good luck getting dealt a blackjack in future rounds with no aces remaining.

    However blackjack aside, the rest of your post is spot on, not that it will make a difference. Singer will spin it to support his conman ideas.



    I never said "I was due" or "a hot streak was coming". What I said was over the long run, many, many trial, results and expectation will come together. That is not theory it is fact. The Law of Large Numbers.

    While still a relatively small sample size, my numbers for this partial year (2018) bear this out. Despite that day (an $8000 loss IIRC) that you, Alan and the rest of people that don't have a clue like to continue to crow about, I am right where I should be for the year, almost exactly (just a hair below) expectation at with an actual BJ win for the year of 24,637.50, vs expectation (accumulated EV) of $25,365. That day frequently mentioned by those who simply don't understand has absolutely no significant meaning what-so-ever, other than the EV (expected value) that was generated. That continues to be my most productive day of the year.

    Here is another one that you, Alan and the rest of the 'clueless club' can add to your arsenal. The month of April. Actual win of over $8200 for me, but EV generated was only $1500 because I played very sparingly due to my partners passing and extended trip back east. $8200 win means nothing. At the end of the year or whatever long-term measure one uses, what matters will be the EV generated and that makes April and the $1500 EV generated my worse month of the year by far for me (in more ways that one )
    I tried to make sense of what you wrote above but there is so much gay lingo that I couldnt figure out what you are saying. Remember this isnt pickapenis.com or cockalicious.com ...this is a gambling forum.
    Yes, this IS a gambling forum. It is YOU that should try to remember this.

    I don't know what your problem is, but there was no "gay lingo" nor a single gay reference in my post. It was strictly on topic of gambling, specifically blackjack AP. If you don't understand some of the concepts, then ask someone. Don't just fly into a homophobic rant because you don't understand something.

    I will ask this of the forum members here: Is there anyone.....anyone, friend or foe, including those that have a strong dislike of me, for whatever reason, that sees anything in my post, completely on the topic of gambling/AP that sees any kind of "gay lingo" or gay reference? (other than in Larry's homophobic mind)

    LarryS, YOU seem to be the one completely obsessed with cock, and sucking dick. Just as you have on other forums you constantly make references, when there is no one else talking about nor interested in the subject. It seems to consume you. Wonder why?
    Calm down KJ,. you described how you feel and thats fair.
    But it seems you walked n the door from a hard day at the tables with gun blazing. It must have been a rough day,

    Take off the wig, and kick off the high heels and calm down a little, and rethink things.

    You and your protege axel may have labeled me a "ball washer" multiple times. And I cant be upset over that because compared to APs, "ball washers" are of value to society. The god that you pray to has to value "ball washers" as a value to mankind while he looks at APs with disgust.

    So tone down the bathhouse vernacular ....that might work with axel and the like.....but it goesover my head.

  13. #1953
    Originally Posted by Bill Yung View Post
    You think that you have been through a lot, but you ain't done been through nothing. Freedom is about the connections you make, not the ones you don't try to make.
    And you are just a punk ass bitch that writes gibberish.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  14. #1954
    Originally Posted by LarryS View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by LarryS View Post

    I tried to make sense of what you wrote above but there is so much gay lingo that I couldnt figure out what you are saying. Remember this isnt pickapenis.com or cockalicious.com ...this is a gambling forum.
    Yes, this IS a gambling forum. It is YOU that should try to remember this.

    I don't know what your problem is, but there was no "gay lingo" nor a single gay reference in my post. It was strictly on topic of gambling, specifically blackjack AP. If you don't understand some of the concepts, then ask someone. Don't just fly into a homophobic rant because you don't understand something.

    I will ask this of the forum members here: Is there anyone.....anyone, friend or foe, including those that have a strong dislike of me, for whatever reason, that sees anything in my post, completely on the topic of gambling/AP that sees any kind of "gay lingo" or gay reference? (other than in Larry's homophobic mind)

    LarryS, YOU seem to be the one completely obsessed with cock, and sucking dick. Just as you have on other forums you constantly make references, when there is no one else talking about nor interested in the subject. It seems to consume you. Wonder why?
    Calm down KJ,. you described how you feel and thats fair.
    But it seems you walked n the door from a hard day at the tables with gun blazing. It must have been a rough day,

    Take off the wig, and kick off the high heels and calm down a little, and rethink things.

    You and your protege axel may have labeled me a "ball washer" multiple times. And I cant be upset over that because compared to APs, "ball washers" are of value to society. The god that you pray to has to value "ball washers" as a value to mankind while he looks at APs with disgust.

    So tone down the bathhouse vernacular ....that might work with axel and the like.....but it goesover my head.
    Another book How LarryS Sucks My Cock by Mr. V.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  15. #1955
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Expectation theory exists only in pre-play scenarios.
    Does expectation trump actual results?

    Can expectation cause someone to maintain that losing $8K is a successful day?...
    because the math of the game forecasts that he'll win it all back plus more in the future?
    And therein lies the AP hypocrisy. They ALL want everyone within reading distance to believe they win because they outsmart the casinos with their +EV theoretically created plays.

    You've seen that idiot kew claim how EV trumps actual results because, well, he Loses! And yes, dummies like him want everyone to think that they'll "win it all back and more" because of a few theoretical percentage points. But they never will come out and actually say that, simply because they know they'll sound like they're "due" or they "feel a hot streak is coming". They prepare and craft their words more carefully than how Martha Stewart's lovers are directed on when to put on their condoms.
    The vast majority of games found in a casino have an edge for the casino. When a player comes out ahead in a session playing one (or more) of these games, you assume that it is an anomaly, and that in the long run the casino will come out head in the long run. Yet when KewlJ applies the same concept as the casino - playing a game where he has an edge (card counting at Blackjack), but happens to have a session where he comes out behind, you don't apply the same logic to him as you do the casino and its house edge games. Your statement makes no sense whatsoever.

  16. #1956
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Your statement makes no sense whatsoever.
    You're pretty patient and clear with your explanations.

    Based on the EV criteria, can you explain why an $8K loss would be considered successful,
    and why an $8K win would be considered less successful than a previous $8K loss?

  17. #1957
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post

    Does expectation trump actual results?

    Can expectation cause someone to maintain that losing $8K is a successful day?...
    because the math of the game forecasts that he'll win it all back plus more in the future?
    And therein lies the AP hypocrisy. They ALL want everyone within reading distance to believe they win because they outsmart the casinos with their +EV theoretically created plays.

    You've seen that idiot kew claim how EV trumps actual results because, well, he Loses! And yes, dummies like him want everyone to think that they'll "win it all back and more" because of a few theoretical percentage points. But they never will come out and actually say that, simply because they know they'll sound like they're "due" or they "feel a hot streak is coming". They prepare and craft their words more carefully than how Martha Stewart's lovers are directed on when to put on their condoms.
    The vast majority of games found in a casino have an edge for the casino. When a player comes out ahead in a session playing one (or more) of these games, you assume that it is an anomaly, and that in the long run the casino will come out head in the long run. Yet when KewlJ applies the same concept as the casino - playing a game where he has an edge (card counting at Blackjack), but happens to have a session where he comes out behind, you don't apply the same logic to him as you do the casino and its house edge games. Your statement makes no sense whatsoever.
    You're misguided by what kew is claiming....that's why my statements make no sense to you.

    First of all, ALL games have an edge for the casinos or else they wouldn't have them. Just because a machine or game theoretically calculates out to 102% into infinity, that certainly doesn't mean it's "game over" for the casino or that game/machine. In fact, if any machine loses money in any 6-month period it gets removed immediately.

    As for kew and his claims vs. any casino's claims....I've never said it's an anomaly if a player wins playing anything. People get lucky--that's what gambling's all about. He isn't the casino but he can have winning as well as losing days--just like anybody else. Where he's always trapped himself is in how he claims to play the game he says he beats.

    We'll toss aside his nonsensical claim of counting two tables simultaneously for the sake of this discussion. He only said that idiocy so he could bolster his earned phantom bucks for the day. However, always lost in the sights is how counting cards these days for the profits he claims to make as an anonymous poster, is 100% impossible these days with all the safeguards in place, with facial recognition shared among casinos, and how closely the pits and upstairs watch these guys. Sure some still try to count, but they don't keep doing it because they aren't allowed to.

    That's why anonymous poster like kew shows up on forums as neurotic as he always is, trying to get as many others as possible to believe their stories in order for him to feel relevant. And when he gets challenged over his claims? He squeals like a little bitch, claiming "waaa....waaa....Alan, Rob & Coach and all Singer's sockpuppets are vile, miserable stupidos" and his most famous sissified whine "What?...are you REALLY asking for proof!!??---that's not what forums are for---when people like Singer claim something it's OK to demand proof, but when AP's claim things everybody and their mother HAS to believe them and they should never ask for supporting evidence"!

    Kew is easy pickins' because he's so dumb and wimpy in his demeanor. He's also the most prolific liar here, and of course he knows it.

  18. #1958
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post

    And therein lies the AP hypocrisy. They ALL want everyone within reading distance to believe they win because they outsmart the casinos with their +EV theoretically created plays.

    You've seen that idiot kew claim how EV trumps actual results because, well, he Loses! And yes, dummies like him want everyone to think that they'll "win it all back and more" because of a few theoretical percentage points. But they never will come out and actually say that, simply because they know they'll sound like they're "due" or they "feel a hot streak is coming". They prepare and craft their words more carefully than how Martha Stewart's lovers are directed on when to put on their condoms.
    The vast majority of games found in a casino have an edge for the casino. When a player comes out ahead in a session playing one (or more) of these games, you assume that it is an anomaly, and that in the long run the casino will come out head in the long run. Yet when KewlJ applies the same concept as the casino - playing a game where he has an edge (card counting at Blackjack), but happens to have a session where he comes out behind, you don't apply the same logic to him as you do the casino and its house edge games. Your statement makes no sense whatsoever.
    You're misguided by what kew is claiming....that's why my statements make no sense to you.

    First of all, ALL games have an edge for the casinos or else they wouldn't have them. Just because a machine or game theoretically calculates out to 102% into infinity, that certainly doesn't mean it's "game over" for the casino or that game/machine. In fact, if any machine loses money in any 6-month period it gets removed immediately.

    As for kew and his claims vs. any casino's claims....I've never said it's an anomaly if a player wins playing anything. People get lucky--that's what gambling's all about. He isn't the casino but he can have winning as well as losing days--just like anybody else. Where he's always trapped himself is in how he claims to play the game he says he beats.

    We'll toss aside his nonsensical claim of counting two tables simultaneously for the sake of this discussion. He only said that idiocy so he could bolster his earned phantom bucks for the day. However, always lost in the sights is how counting cards these days for the profits he claims to make as an anonymous poster, is 100% impossible these days with all the safeguards in place, with facial recognition shared among casinos, and how closely the pits and upstairs watch these guys. Sure some still try to count, but they don't keep doing it because they aren't allowed to.

    That's why anonymous poster like kew shows up on forums as neurotic as he always is, trying to get as many others as possible to believe their stories in order for him to feel relevant. And when he gets challenged over his claims? He squeals like a little bitch, claiming "waaa....waaa....Alan, Rob & Coach and all Singer's sockpuppets are vile, miserable stupidos" and his most famous sissified whine "What?...are you REALLY asking for proof!!??---that's not what forums are for---when people like Singer claim something it's OK to demand proof, but when AP's claim things everybody and their mother HAS to believe them and they should never ask for supporting evidence"!

    Kew is easy pickins' because he's so dumb and wimpy in his demeanor. He's also the most prolific liar here, and of course he knows it.



    I love it when Singer says something is “100% impossible” because you automatically know that it’s completely possible. Sure, if you’re a dumbfuck greaseball living off a bunch of 10 year old lies desperately trying to convince a bunch of total strangers that you have a clue the yeah, it’s probably impossible. Hell, an ugly fuck like Singer probably thinks it’s “100% impossible” to get sex without paying for it.

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    Ok Singer or whatever you want to call yourself for the purpose of misleading and deceiving other, the gloves are now off.

    I learned quite a bit about this 'person' several months ago when I was looking. Just a simple Google search...nothing fancy. I have refrained from sharing said info because frankly I am against that kind of thing. But there comes a time when low life pieces of shit forfeit that protection. (Think strictlyap). Singer and his blatant lies to discredit many people, including but not just myself, now has forfeited that right of privacy. So when I get home in a couple hours I will spill the beans on this deceitful low life clown.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 05-15-2018 at 03:15 PM.

  20. #1960
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Your statement makes no sense whatsoever.
    You're pretty patient and clear with your explanations.

    Based on the EV criteria, can you explain why an $8K loss would be considered successful,
    and why an $8K win would be considered less successful than a previous $8K loss?
    Because as long as you have an edge, and the variance is within reason (let's say a similar variance to that of ~98% triple double bonus poker or less - black jack has a variance which is orders of magnitude less than vp), then, while you may have a single session where you have a loss (despite your edge), it is statistically very unlikely for this to occur if repeated many times. So the success lies in the fact that if you keep playing the same game with a +EV, then the sum of the other sessions played will more than offset the 8K loss giving the player a profit over time - it is the same concept that the casinos apply in most slots and vp games where they, rather than the player have the edge. Sure, a player may get a lucky session in these casino-edged games, but over time the player will lose. KewlJ was referring to his success in aggregate, not that of the 8K loss, which was anomalous since he is planning to play tens of thousands of sessions with an edge.
    Mathematical example using the binomial probability density function and 10 trials (10 blackjack sessions) with a success being defined as the player coming out ahead:
    1. If the player and casino have an equal chance (50%) of winning
    then the most likely outcome is that half the sessions will have the player come out ahead (24.6% chance)
    2. If the player has a 70% chance of winning then the most likely outcome is that the player will come out ahead in 7 out of 10 sessions (26.7% chance)
    3. If the player has 98% chance of winning (this is an extreme case to emphasize the point) then the most likely outcome is that the player will come out ahead in all 10 sessions (81% chance)
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