Marquee Rewards giving guaranteed complimentary rooms to Icons

[RRLover]

Marquee Rewards had added more tier benefits, including guaranteed complimentary rooms and upgrades. Tropicana Las Vegas is one of the properties.

[pkspins]

At $400K coin in every 6 months it should be good for something.

http://www.marqueerewards.com/Benefits

[jj5957]

At $400K coin in every 6 months it should be good for something.

http://www.marqueerewards.com/Benefits

It's worse than that. At Tropicana it takes $4 coin in to earn 1 point at video poker.

[Dan Druff]

Wow, they really are taking a page out of the Seven Stars book.

They also offer the exact same Norwegian Cruise (7 days, balcony stateroom, customer pays admin fee & taxes) at the Icon level. Is that also new?

They also have a $250 celebration dinner (7 stars is $500), an annual gift (7 stars got rid of that a few years ago), and a $500 travel reimbursement (7 stars is $1200, though this $500 can be used toward your NCL cruise, and 7 stars will not let you do that).

So it's not quite as good as 2017 Seven Stars, and of course they have a much smaller list of properties, but it's the closest thing.

Regarding coin-in, yes, it's much worse.

$1.6m coin-in is more than triple the minimum to get 7 Stars ($500k with bonuses), and it's every 6 months rather than every 2 years.

So that's $6.4m coin-in to maintain it for 2 years, instead of $500k for Seven Stars. No thanks.

Now if only they'd match Icon to Seven Stars without any play...

[tableplay]

At $400K coin in every 6 months it should be good for something.

http://www.marqueerewards.com/Benefits

It's worse than that. At Tropicana it takes $4 coin in to earn 1 point at video poker.

Yikes !!!?

[jj5957]

You could also play at the M where it is $2 = 1 tier credit and they have $1 NSU deuces but it would take a lot of hours for 400,000 tier credits.

[jj5957]

Wow, they really are taking a page out of the Seven Stars book.

They also offer the exact same Norwegian Cruise (7 days, balcony stateroom, customer pays admin fee & taxes) at the Icon level. Is that also new?

They also have a $250 celebration dinner (7 stars is $500), an annual gift (7 stars got rid of that a few years ago), and a $500 travel reimbursement (7 stars is $1200, though this $500 can be used toward your NCL cruise, and 7 stars will not let you do that).

So it's not quite as good as 2017 Seven Stars, and of course they have a much smaller list of properties, but it's the closest thing.

Regarding coin-in, yes, it's much worse.

$1.6m coin-in is more than triple the minimum to get 7 Stars ($500k with bonuses), and it's every 6 months rather than every 2 years.

So that's $6.4m coin-in to maintain it for 2 years, instead of $500k for Seven Stars. No thanks.

Now if only they'd match Icon to Seven Stars without any play...

They have offered those benefits for a while. Bob Dancer wrote how he played $10 8/5 bonus at the M so he could make Icon and get the free cruise. The M downgraded those machines shortly after.

[mcap]

Penn is acquiring all the pinnacle properties too other than 5 which they are selling to Boyd, so penn will have more than 40 properties. It’s 1.6 mill ci/yr to maintain at most properties, some places can have like $2 9/6 jacks or $5 8/5 BP. Penn making a move on CET/MGM. Too bad their free play is garbage.

[mcap]

It might be possible to do something like 800k coin in per year and have icon like 19/24 months of that time. Still considerably more play 800k per year considerably more than 500k every other year was for 7 star.

[Dan Druff]

It might be possible to do something like 800k coin in per year and have icon like 19/24 months of that time. Still considerably more play 800k per year considerably more than 500k every other year was for 7 star.

Can you explain this in more detail?

[Alan Mendelson]

Dan Druff I thought you would have caught this:

Marquee has $4 coin in for video poker while with Caesars it's either $10 or $25 or some other high amount per point.

[Dan Druff]

Dan Druff I thought you would have caught this:

Marquee has $4 coin in for video poker while with Caesars it's either $10 or $25 or some other high amount per point.

That part doesn't matter. What matters is how much total coin-in is required to achieve the highest tier level, and how often you have to redo it in order to maintain that status. The quality of games available also matters.

Total Rewards can be done every 2 years, where Marquee is every 6 months.

Marquee also has a higher coin-in requirement, even if you play at the M where it's apparently $2 for one tier instead of $4.

[mcap]

It might be possible to do something like 800k coin in per year and have icon like 19/24 months of that time. Still considerably more play 800k per year considerably more than 500k every other year was for 7 star.

Can you explain this in more detail?

Ok sure. My understanding is that many if not most Penn properties, including the M in LV, it is 2/pt rather than 4 for vp. So let’s take the best $2+ game available on vpfree at the M, 8/5 BP. I’m not sure what the slot club returns now that they switched it to $2/pt from 1 at the M, it used to 0.33%, ill assume it is so we can make 8/5 BP an even 99.5%. Idk if another region or game you could play that return or better at higher than $2, perhaps there’s more or better options when the pinnacle properties are fully integrated.

We need 400,000 pts for icon, I think it expires at the end of the following period, my calculations are based on that.

1-2/2018: 800,000 ci for icon on 8/5 BP at 99.5% after slot: cost:-$4000 before any free play
3/ 2018: now have icon benefits, I think expire 12/31/18, have till then to qualify.

12/18: you could play 800k here so it doesn’t expire, I’m assuming you won’t.
1/-2 2019: play 800k 8/5 BP at 2/pt to re-obtain status. Cost: 4K before fp after slot club. I think status would expire 12/31/2019.

So basically assuming it takes 2 months to run 800k ci, you then enjoy those benefits the next 10 months. You’re definitely paying for it if you don’t make it up in free play, doesn’t look like there’s a ton of good options to rotate between until pinnacle integrated.

[Dan Druff]

Okay... I understand better now.

I didn't realize that they also give you the entire subsequent period, just like Caesars does -- except Caesars is twice as long because theirs is in year increments instead of 6 months.

Question: Can you exchange your points for cash, like you can at Stations properties? Or are the points only usable for freeplay or on-property expenses?


Also, I just noticed that the NCL cruise is only for certain itineraries, which degrades its potential value. The Seven Stars one included most cruises they offered. Go here and scroll down: http://www.marqueerewards.com/Progra...w/ProgramRules

Here's their locations: http://www.marqueerewards.com/Locations

[mcap]

Well it has carried over at least at lower tiers the last couple years.

Don’t believe you can get cash, most places can get free play. At 99% what’s the difference?

Capiche?

[Dan Druff]

Here's a list of the 18 additional Penn (Marquee Rewards) properties which will join when the Pinnacle Entertainment sale is complete.

The blue-labeled properties are going to Penn, and the red-labeled ones are going to Boyd (a different company, unrelated to Penn):





Despite an impressive list of 41 properties, 36 of the 41 will be in the eastern portion of the country.

Here's the article about the sale: https://www.reviewjournal.com/busine...-in-2-8b-deal/

[ddb1]

Ameristar East Chicago is local to me and this will make it's 5 owner in it's 20 year existence. Showboat-Harrahs-Resorts-Ameristar- and now Penn.

[tableplay]

Ameristar East Chicago is local to me and this will make it's 5 owner in it's 20 year existence. Showboat-Harrahs-Resorts-Ameristar- and now Penn.

I remember going there when it was Harrah's when I was out there for the Pinball Expo in Rosemont - time flies.