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  1. #21

  2. #22
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Jbjb has never lost.
    Oh, we've lost many times. Usually on the carnival games though.

  3. #23
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    You see someone with a nicer car than you, and you say to yourself, "The maintenance must cost a fortune... AND look how quickly it depreciates!!"
    Dan, this example would have also worked with the hot girl instead of the car.

  4. #24
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post


    tableplay provided a fraudulent answer to a legitimate question about his heads-up play,
    after he concocted a phony scenario about only playing positive counts when heads-up.

    I'll ask the same question of you, how is that possible from the beginning of the shoe?
    This is an outright lie. I said that when the count is highly negative you could abandon the table and come back to a neutral deck (or play at a different table). Taking a bathroom break is a good excuse for this and it is unlikely to arouse suspicion if done once an hour. I never said anything about only playing positive counts. Please quote where I said you only play positive counts.

  5. #25
    People asking for AP info.....especially for machines is unrealistic except when asking MC.
    mc seems to be able to find small jackpots ready to hit. I believe him. And I skim his screen shots and it seems doable for people who know what they are doing.

    But I also think.....wtf. Would a person who makes his money at the track, accept a free job discussing his picks 5 min before the race on the in house TVs. He would be screwing himself as others follow him ad the odds go downon his potential payoffs.

    So what if there is a quiet AP, just lurking, waiting in the weeds, someone who snatches the MC "plays" before mc gets to the area of play. Same as the horse handicapper sharing info that will financially drain him.....MC is possibly doing the same thing. Now that doesnt mean that I think his plays are not real. I think they are very real and requires real knowledge that not many people know and I also think that in reading some of his posts, a copycat with less knowledge can undercut him.

    Aps like KJ obviously are not going to share specifics that would damage their gig. However by coming to sites and talking it up....it may encourage others to come on in. And the more people entering the trade, the more casinos will focus attention on Aps. As they grow in number, the casino attention will grow.
    Which also makes me wonder, .....why? Why is it important to let people know its possible to make mney and live a good life as an AP? Ok you want to help people?...there are PM features when u find a potential student to be helped. Personally I dont have the patience and discipline to be a successful AP. I guess technically when I sports bet and play poker I am APing. In that I am looking for an advantage in line setting, and I am analyzing the math of a poker hand along with other factors. However whatever info I share, doesnt taker money out of my pocket.

  6. #26
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Let's be honest here. Our AP members have made some glorious comments about how great they are. They always invoke "the math" but we don't see what they're doing though they do tell us how great they are. Jbjb has never lost. Kewlj says he lost but it's part of his grand plan that will actually give him a profit. Mickeycrimm is raping the machines in every bar in Montana and actually has time to take photo tours of casinos around the country while stumbling on where ploppies have left low hanging fruit. And RS overnight went from am off strip craps dealer to a Seven Stars player.

    Sometimes our imaginations are challenged.

    Meanwhile the only expert player I know on the forum is Dan who, to the best of my knowledge, failed to cash in last year's WSOP and he hasn't questioned the remarkable success of the others.

    And if anyone dares to question the APs they (we) are immediately labeled as not only anti AP but ignorant of any kind of intelligence on the casino floor.

    The extremes are very extreme, don't you think?

    And then along comes redietz who after being fully exposed here as a seller of sports tips and vanishes returns with a prominent post attacking several forum members while he also (quietly) posts a report on a successful contest he was in for sports pickers.

    Bottom line: there's a lot of self serving posting going on here.
    Mr. Mendelson, you'd be correct except for the fact you're wrong. As usual. I'm "fully exposed as a seller of sports tips," eh? Good point, except I haven't done that, as I stated in a previous post, for more than a decade. I don't "sell sports picks." Of course, that was been made clear in the final McCusker Report (mid-90's), which was sent to you and you did not read.

    See, the problem with Mr. Mendelson is he thinks "professional" means "selling sports picks." Now I don't have a problem with him thinking this erroneously as long as he keeps his brilliance to himself, but he just has to open his big, uneducated, brain dead mouth at every opportunity. Did it occur to him to check and ask if "professional" means "selling sports picks?" Of course not, because he thinks he grasps everything and is always correct.

    Talk about self-serving. I'm not selling anything to anybody here. Mr. Mendelson is constantly promoting his attitudes and "expertise" regarding things he knows nothing about. He doesn't bother to ask if he's correct. He doesn't bother to check with anybody. He just assumes.

  7. #27
    Redietz you know that I know nothing about sports. I told you that. Why did you send your "package" to me? Why didn't you send it to Dan or anyone else?

  8. #28
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Please quote where I said you only play positive counts.
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post

    Do you continue to play heads-up if the count is negative or marginal?
    No, you go answer a call of nature whether you actually have to answer one or not.

  9. #29
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    I don't "sell sports picks."
    What do your clients purchase from you?

  10. #30
    he is an investment advisor as per one web description calling sports betting "investments". He is involved in "investments"....so I guess he sells investment advice.

  11. #31
    Originally Posted by LarryS View Post
    I guess he sells investment advice.
    What kind of investments is he selling advice about?

  12. #32
    I had only been on this site a few days before it became crystal clear there was an anti-AP contingent lead by Alan and Singer (at the time). Dan Druff, who I think we all recognize as a level headed and objective person, confirmed that today.

    Now each time I have stated that Alan is anti-AP, Alan denies it. And a few members insinuate that I am being overly sensitive. To those people I say just read Alan's quote below. He is no longer even able to hide his contempt for the AP members of this site. It is exactly as Dan Druff described. This is a bitter man, bitter at his years of losing at the hands of the casinos and he resents people that are able to make a profit.

    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Let's be honest here. Our AP members have made some glorious comments about how great they are. They always invoke "the math" but we don't see what they're doing though they do tell us how great they are. Jbjb has never lost. Kewlj says he lost but it's part of his grand plan that will actually give him a profit. Mickeycrimm is raping the machines in every bar in Montana and actually has time to take photo tours of casinos around the country while stumbling on where ploppies have left low hanging fruit. And RS overnight went from am off strip craps dealer to a Seven Stars player.

  13. #33
    Alan continues to lie about the entire redeitz matter. He now asks "why did redeitz send the information package to Alan? The answer is because Alan asked him to and provided a mailing address. It had nothing to do with Alan's knowledge (or lack of) of sports. I was quite simply that Alan's 'partner in crime' Rob Singer, was challenging who redietz was. Alan volunteered to act as referee. Redeitz took Alan up on his offer, and Alan failed to be neutral and objective as promised.

    When it became clear that redietz was who he said, to protect his buddy Singer, Alan wouldn't even acknowledge seeing the information, per the whole shyster, tap dance where he didn't go to the office from once a week until never. At the end he didn't even have a key to his own office was the excuse this shyster came up with to protect Singer. Shame on you Alan Mendelson!

    And now Alan has decided to put the spin on it that redietz is one of those handicappers selling picks and tried to use Alan. COMPLETE BULLSHIT by the resident shyster, Alan Mendelson! Show us one single time redietz ever used this forum to attempt to sell anything. This is just YET another attempt by Alan the shyster, to discredit an AP. THAT is Alan's agenda and has been since the day I joined this site. Even Dan Druff now recognizes and acknowledges this.

  14. #34
    Originally Posted by LarryS View Post
    he is an investment advisor as per one web description calling sports betting "investments". He is involved in "investments"....so I guess he sells investment advice.
    Why, LarryS, as such a cogent and honest guy, I'd expect you to explain that you stumbled onto that particular line while checking the IntegritySports.com website on the wayback machine from, what, 1996? A web archived address that I gave you. And, as a cogent and honest guy, you of course included all of the details from that site regarding what had been accomplished, and my offers on that site to take polygraphs to back up every word, along with the list of published results from "Tipsters or Gypsters?" stretching a dozen years. LarryS, did you fail to mention that? Why, for shame. Not very cogent and honest of you.

    This is why it's pointless to deal with these people. LarryS unveils some sarcasm regarding a 25-year-old website line, fails to mention anything else about what's on the site, fails to mention that I gave everyone that website address, and decides his definition of "investment" supersedes a dictionary definition. Moreover, he doesn't explain the origin of the line because people might read everything on the archived site and discover something more impressive than LarryS.

    The site is available via the wayback machine. It's IntegritySports.com. I stand by every single word on that site, and I'll still take a polygraph to back it all up.
    Last edited by redietz; 01-16-2018 at 01:15 PM.

  15. #35
    COMPLETE BULLSHIT by the resident shyster, Alan Mendelson! ... another attempt by Alan the shyster
    Point of order, KJ.

    I note you are calling Alan a "shyster."

    Please refrain from doing so, as the word "shyster" is typically a term of opprobrium applied to attorneys, not to disgruntled, seemingly brain-addled internet peddlers.

    Might I suggest a substitute?

    Try "troll."
    What, Me Worry?

  16. #36
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    COMPLETE BULLSHIT by the resident shyster, Alan Mendelson! ... another attempt by Alan the shyster
    Point of order, KJ.

    I note you are calling Alan a "shyster."

    Please refrain from doing so, as the word "shyster" is typically a term of opprobrium applied to attorneys, not to disgruntled, seemingly brain-addled internet peddlers.

    Might I suggest a substitute?

    Try "troll."
    No...wrong, counselor. I looked up Shyster, when I began using it.

    Shyster: a person, especially a lawyer, who uses unscrupulous, fraudulent, or deceptive methods

    Merrian-Webster has a shorter definition: A dishonest person.
    followed by a picture of Alan Mendelson.

    I think your confusion lies in that many in your profession, fall into this category. But that doesn't give you lawyers the exclusive right to the word.

    Plus with Alan there is that 'snake oil salesman' aspect. That goes hand in hand with "shyster". And a guy peddling product and services as some sort of "best buy" when in fact these 'selected values' are paid for, comes across as dishonest to me. Thus, "shyster" again applies.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 01-16-2018 at 02:01 PM.

  17. #37
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    These are truths. That's why I don't begrudge casual gamblers. If they want to play -EV games because it's fun, then great. AP isn't for eveyone.
    Unless we look at the lottery and other big, big games. How many poker players never hit the big pay day? For that matter, how many sports athletes? One big lottery win amounts to the sum total of every sports and casino AP in the history of mankind. Fred who plays the same numbers once a week, or Ralph who played what came into his head for the first time. Nobody says the anti-system people are the way they are because of that. Count the dollars, not the shavings of pennies who think they are king crap. Look at the overall picture. Most of it is hindsight of being in the right place at the right time with the right stupid idea.
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  18. #38
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    I stand by every single word on that site, and I'll still take a polygraph to back it all up.
    I'd like to witness this. Is this something that can be reasonably accomplished? What are your conditions?

  19. #39
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Let's be honest here. Our AP members have made some glorious comments about how great they are. They always invoke "the math" but we don't see what they're doing though they do tell us how great they are. Jbjb has never lost. Kewlj says he lost but it's part of his grand plan that will actually give him a profit. Mickeycrimm is raping the machines in every bar in Montana and actually has time to take photo tours of casinos around the country while stumbling on where ploppies have left low hanging fruit. And RS overnight went from am off strip craps dealer to a Seven Stars player.

    Sometimes our imaginations are challenged.

    Meanwhile the only expert player I know on the forum is Dan who, to the best of my knowledge, failed to cash in last year's WSOP and he hasn't questioned the remarkable success of the others.

    And if anyone dares to question the APs they (we) are immediately labeled as not only anti AP but ignorant of any kind of intelligence on the casino floor.

    The extremes are very extreme, don't you think?

    And then along comes redietz who after being fully exposed here as a seller of sports tips and vanishes returns with a prominent post attacking several forum members while he also (quietly) posts a report on a successful contest he was in for sports pickers.

    Bottom line: there's a lot of self serving posting going on here.
    Mr. Mendelson, you'd be correct except for the fact you're wrong. As usual. I'm "fully exposed as a seller of sports tips," eh? Good point, except I haven't done that, as I stated in a previous post, for more than a decade. I don't "sell sports picks." Of course, that was been made clear in the final McCusker Report (mid-90's), which was sent to you and you did not read.

    See, the problem with Mr. Mendelson is he thinks "professional" means "selling sports picks." Now I don't have a problem with him thinking this erroneously as long as he keeps his brilliance to himself, but he just has to open his big, uneducated, brain dead mouth at every opportunity. Did it occur to him to check and ask if "professional" means "selling sports picks?" Of course not, because he thinks he grasps everything and is always correct.

    Talk about self-serving. I'm not selling anything to anybody here. Mr. Mendelson is constantly promoting his attitudes and "expertise" regarding things he knows nothing about. He doesn't bother to ask if he's correct. He doesn't bother to check with anybody. He just assumes.
    You have been very veg about your sport's business and how you make money from it.

    I have asked before, however I get the confidentiality speech or whatever you want to call it.

    I have yet to ever find ANY legitimate sports service, to be fair, I haven't looked that hard. I know many others that have looked at many without any success.

    Perhaps you do have the keys needed to beat spots, I have no clue. How does one find out?

  20. #40
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    COMPLETE BULLSHIT by the resident shyster, Alan Mendelson! ... another attempt by Alan the shyster
    Point of order, KJ.

    I note you are calling Alan a "shyster."

    Please refrain from doing so, as the word "shyster" is typically a term of opprobrium applied to attorneys, not to disgruntled, seemingly brain-addled internet peddlers.

    Might I suggest a substitute?

    Try "troll."
    No...wrong, counselor. I looked up Shyster, when I began using it.

    Shyster: a person, especially a lawyer, who uses unscrupulous, fraudulent, or deceptive methods

    Merrian-Webster has a shorter definition: A dishonest person.
    followed by a picture of Alan Mendelson.

    I think your confusion lies in that many in your profession, fall into this category. But that doesn't give you lawyers the exclusive right to the word.

    Plus with Alan there is that 'snake oil salesman' aspect. That goes hand in hand with "shyster". And a guy peddling product and services as some sort of "best buy" when in fact these 'selected values' are paid for, comes across as dishonest to me. Thus, "shyster" again applies.
    It is most commonly used for lawyers. Anyway, below is a pretty good lawyer "joke"

    "If you think lawyers don't have heart, read the best lawyer story of all time...

    The Salvation Army realized that it had never received a donation from the city's
    most successful lawyer.

    So a volunteer paid the lawyer a visit in his lavish office.

    The volunteer opened the meeting by saying, 'Our research shows that even though
    your annual income is over two million dollars, you don't give a penny to charity.

    Wouldn't you like to give something back to your community?

    The lawyer thinks for a minute and says, 'First, did your research also show you that
    my mother is dying after a long painful illness, and she has huge medical bills that
    are far beyond her ability to pay?'

    Embarrassed, the rep mumbles, 'Uh... No, I didn't know that.'

    'Secondly,' says the lawyer, 'did it show that my brother, a disabled Veteran,
    is blind and confined to a wheelchair and is unable to support his wife and six children?

    The stricken rep begins to stammer an apology, but is cut off again.

    'Thirdly, did your research also show you that my sister's husband died in a
    dreadful car accident, leaving her penniless with a mortgage and three children,
    one of whom is disabled and another that has learning disabilities requiring an array
    of private tutors?'

    The humiliated rep, completely beaten, says, 'I'm so sorry. I had no idea.’

    And the lawyer says, 'So, if I didn't give any money to them, what makes you think
    I'd give any to you?’

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