What Kind of Forum Is This?

[Alan Mendelson]

Larry now you're trolling.

[Keystone]

Like this...right?

I’ve read here for a few years with limited posting

Keystone stopped posting in March 2016, then he started posting again the day after Biloxi Bill was banned.

Isn't that a pretty big red flag?

Yep. And you noticed it and pointed it out. So what do you want from me?

He wants you to cry to Dan and then motorboat his new rack.
Notice he became quite the chatterbox once Biloxi was banned and is now working over time to convince someone that I’m Biloxi? I’d recommend he just pull his pantyhose up, tighten that girdle, shoulders back and tits up and do what most girls do- go to the owner and use his feminine charms to find out if I’m Biloxi herself.

[MisterV]

Outside of this forum and the WOV forum no one gives a damn about 18 yos in a row. At the time even I didn't think much about it or I would have gotten the tape.

*with apologies to Eli's*

You can always tell an innumerate, but you can't tell him much.

Alan, your statement is astounding in its ... what's the word? ... cupidity, or stupidity?

Whatever, the idea that nobody else in the world would bat an eye at 18 yo's in a row is beyond absurd.

True, it may mean little to Ma and Pa Kettle, but to those who understand the math of gambling it is a stunning claim.

Pure bullshit, of course: I call it stunning bullshit.

[LarryS]

Outside of this forum and the WOV forum no one gives a damn about 18 yos in a row. At the time even I didn't think much about it or I would have gotten the tape.

*with apologies to Eli's*

You can always tell an innumerate, but you can't tell him much.

Alan, your statement is astounding in its ... what's the word? ... cupidity, or stupidity?

Whatever, the idea that nobody else in the world would bat an eye at 18 yo's in a row is beyond absurd.

True, it may mean little to Ma and Pa Kettle, but to those who understand the math of gambling it is a stunning claim.

Pure bullshit, of course: I call it stunning bullshit.

Of course its stunning BS.....yet of all the improbable things she questioned....the most improbable thing she left out. And on top of that Alan bemoans that she was banned for no reason.
The main offender of declaring the improbable was not held under the microscope by girlfriday
I am not even arguing if it happened. There is one fact on this board and that is.....The claim by alan has the highest improbability of any other claim here by pure math.
So why didnt she question that along with all the other complaints she had.There is alot she didnt believe and questioned.

Answer is obvious.....as alan sticks up for her and provides alibis

the thing about girlfriday ...the big mistake....is that he went and shot his load prematurely. He should have pretended for a month or so first, gain some trust, and then rip into people. But he has no staying power.

[Alan Mendelson]

Rob thanks you for the condolences. He's been at St Josephs Hospital in Tucson.

[kewlJ]

Rob thanks you for the condolences. He's been at St Josephs Hospital in Tucson.

Smart money says that is the location and IP address girlfriday was posting from. Maybe she had an uncle dying as well. What are the odds of that?....about the same as 18 y.o.'s in a row?

[Alan Mendelson]

Rob thanks you for the condolences. He's been at St Josephs Hospital in Tucson.

Smart money says that is the location and IP address girlfriday was posting from. Maybe she had an uncle dying as well. What are the odds of that?....about the same as 18 y.o.'s in a row?

Distance between Mesa and Tucson is 108 miles.
Kewlj if Dan asked you to telephone him (and you can block your number) to prove your identity would you?

[tableplay]

If you actually listened to Rob you'd see that for the most part especially on full pay games he did hold full houses and did not try for quads. The classic example is a full house with trip aces.

In full pay 8/5 Bonus Rob holds the full house. So does Dancer, for example.

In 7/5 Bonus Dancer holds the full house BUT if Rob needs the big win he will hold only the trip aces. Again ONLY if he needs the big win.

In 6/5 Bonus BOTH Dancer and Rob only hold the aces.

If Rob deviates slightly from regular discarding strategy then he would only see small deviations in his results. Yet he claims to have significantly better results.

His strategy isn't dangerous because of his "special plays." It's dangerous because it's an "up your bet as you lose" strategy.

OK. thanks jbjb.

[Bill Yung]

Rob thanks you for the condolences. He's been at St Josephs Hospital in Tucson.

Smart money says that is the location and IP address girlfriday was posting from. Maybe she had an uncle dying as well. What are the odds of that?....about the same as 18 y.o.'s in a row?

Distance between Mesa and Tucson is 108 miles.
Kewlj if Dan asked you to telephone him (and you can block your number) to prove your identity would you?

This place is going the way of phone calls, extreme matter of fact claims and polygraphs.

[tableplay]

Girlfriday's next response is below:

I didn't locate any of the Singer Martingale strategy in the videos, but I did find something about it in older posts by him. I wish he wasn't banned because it would be interesting to discuss this with him.

He doesn't visibly challenge the math and he says that. What I see is he trues to push the quad winners in his direction so he can see more of them than they statistically occur. He openly says his strategy relies on being a small bit more lucky than an ap player.

I also saw where your primary issue is how he claims to win, and win a lot, on less than 100% machines. I need to understand his system better first, but my comment here is that it's possible to be able to do that over x no. of hands, with x being undefinable for now. At 99.1% versus 100.7%, in individual sessions of video poker play, the difference would be negligible. I see the argument though, where over the long term there would be enough hands to eat away his profits. I can't disagree or agree with that until I know more about it.

The only way to increase the quad frequency is to throw away full houses which would be highly foolish in most circumstances. The exceptions being a "big" quad progressive (rare, as quads hit, on average once every 420 hands with normal discarding strategy) or if you're playing a game like Royal Aces bonus (quad aces pay 800-1) and you have a full house with 3-aces in it (it wouldn't increase quads that much since you only do the throw-away for the Aces, not the other 12 suits).

Well, not the only way. I used to just hold the high pair instead of two pair when playing DB & DDB, chasing the chance of quads vs. full house.

Yes, that's right DannyJ, those would have a significant impact on quad frequency due to their high frequency of occurrence - forgot about that, thanks.

[Dan Druff]

The posts from girlfriday were from a cell phone in the greater Phoenix area, sometimes showing as Mesa.

Cell phone IPs only give a very general location. Tucson is possible to show that way.

Alan, girlfriday was banned for threatening me.

Why do you keep ignoring that?

[Alan Mendelson]

Dan what was the threat? You told me she and her husband said they were going to investigate you. What kind of a threat is that?

It's your forum so do what you want. But I think you chased away a legitimate new poster by asking them to call you and prove their identity. Would you ask kewlj to prove his identity? Would you ask anyone else?

[mickeycrimm]

Larry now you're trolling.

The understatement of the year.

[Dan Druff]

Dan what was the threat? You told me she and her husband said they were going to investigate you. What kind of a threat is that?

It's your forum so do what you want. But I think you chased away a legitimate new poster by asking them to call you and prove their identity. Would you ask kewlj to prove his identity? Would you ask anyone else?

"She" claimed to have already hired a PI who uncovered info on me.

Do you think that's normal behavior toward the owner of a forum you just joined?

I'm starting to believe those who say you are just trolling.

[MisterV]

It's often tough to tell if the stuff flowing from Alan's keyboard is ever filtered through his noggin; seems like a stream of unconsciousness.

Makes you wonder how the board's own cub reporter could have interviewed four presidents, the Queen of England, the King of Spain and be among the first TV reporters to cover the famine in Ethiopia.

[LarryS]

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-li...w/n10099?snl=1

a mentor

[redietz]

I do not know if this was mentioned in other threads, but a friend of mine informed me that Rob was outed on the Las Vegas Advisor forum as a sockpuppet posing as a mortgage broker.

Now there's a coincidence rivaling 18 yo's (or is it yos?).

[kewlJ]

Barney does not seem to be Rob Singer. His IP (which is not a proxy) is on the eastern side of the country, and has consistently been there.

Let's talk a bit about Barney. I still believe it is Singer. Probably posting through a friend (imagine being a friend to Singer...eww...oh that's right Alan. ). Anyway, even on the off chance that it is not Singer, as I believe, can we agree this person (see post below) is NOT seriously wanting to contribute positively to this site? If THIS isn't games and trolling, then I don't know what is. I really don't think Singer or whichever sockpuppet of a previous member, should be "rewarded" by being allowed to continue. At some point, you gotta use common sense. Again...just look at this post. He is selling "skunkhats" and "goat coats" to supplement his AP "monies". Come on.

This is Barney

Between the LID and myself, we make the greatest amounts of money at casino. I track the LID's playing of the craps over last 20 years and depending on bouncyness of table his edge at the craps ranges from +.01 to +.03. LID also plays the VP but is net negative but it has provided us with the greatest rooms, food, and dates. Using the Mickey's greatest insights into the slut machine devices I have begun to watch, wait, and play when the sluts become favorable over last year and I am net positive although I can not now track the LID's play at the craps. We also have greatest AP play which only work at the river boat casino. However, since 2007 the craps have became very hard for the LID so I sell on the eBay skunkhat and DI goat coats to supplement our AP monies.


Thank you very much

[Dan Druff]

The above post is just a silly parody of AP posts. Even if not meant in fun, it's harmless and I don't see the need to ban Barney.

I do think there's a good chance it's a fake account, though. I'll be watching closely.

[Alan Mendelson]

Kewlj seems to think that anyone and everyone who questions his play or the claims of any players must be either Singer or a confederate of Singer's.

Is it so impossible that there might be just a few other people on the world who doubt the claims and question them?

Granted, this forum is so hostile to anyone who doubts the holy grail it is unlikely any of the "doubters" will post. But there are still hundreds of people who come to this forum every day and their silence is deafening.

Eventually all dissenters will leave and I'm sure kewlj is drooling over the prospects.