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  1. #121
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Gee....getting giddy over buffets.

    monet, while it's very difficult trying to read thru your million word posts, I did catch where you asserted I only have a single line strategy. My five-play strategy ($1/$2/$5/$10/$25) was published in Gaming Today years ago.
    I do apologize for my unsophisticated palate. Whether in Tennessee or California or Nevada, we be simple folk. Not like them metrosexual connoisseurs in the Argentino clan.

  2. #122
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    Last edited by blackhole; 04-15-2018 at 02:15 AM.

  3. #123
    Does card pulling work anywhere anymore? I tried it the other day at 4Q (older machine) and it still counted my win on the card. I'd have to assume most all machines are more modern/updated than that one, no?

  4. #124
    Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Does card pulling work anywhere anymore? I tried it the other day at 4Q (older machine) and it still counted my win on the card. I'd have to assume most all machines are more modern/updated than that one, no?
    I wonder if it doesn't work at 4Q it is because people advertised that it did work at one time. Maybe too many people started doing it. Monet will probably chime in as he seems to be the resident 4Q expert and on this matter as well.

  5. #125
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    I wonder if it doesn't work at 4Q it is because people advertised that it did work at one time. Maybe too many people started doing it. Monet will probably chime in as he seems to be the resident 4Q expert and on this matter as well.
    These forums are pure evil. I will not be chiming in about anything, anymore.

  6. #126
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    I wonder if it doesn't work at 4Q it is because people advertised that it did work at one time. Maybe too many people started doing it. Monet will probably chime in as he seems to be the resident 4Q expert and on this matter as well.
    These forums are pure evil. I will not be chiming in about anything, anymore.
    It looks like Mendelson, Singer, Blackhole, Belly and Yung got their wish. They've silenced another voice on advanced strategic gambling. It all fits in with their way of doing things which is the way of darkness, unenlightenment, bottomless ignorance, and infantile stupidity.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  7. #127
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    I wonder if it doesn't work at 4Q it is because people advertised that it did work at one time. Maybe too many people started doing it. Monet will probably chime in as he seems to be the resident 4Q expert and on this matter as well.
    These forums are pure evil. I will not be chiming in about anything, anymore.
    It looks like Mendelson, Singer, Blackhole, Belly and Yung got their wish. They've silenced another voice on advanced strategic gambling. It all fits in with their way of doing things which is the way of darkness, unenlightenment, bottomless ignorance, and infantile stupidity.
    Aww...shoot. I didn't realize Monet had announced this or I wouldn't have made a post to him in the Wov thread this morning.

    I can understand his feeling though. I go back and forth on whether to continue participating here, sometimes thinking why bother, doing no one any good or benefit, other times thinking I will not let the likes of Singer, Blackhole and Alan drive me away from participating. Always just hoping the site somehow heads in a new better direction. One can always hope.

  8. #128
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by monet View Post

    These forums are pure evil. I will not be chiming in about anything, anymore.
    It looks like Mendelson, Singer, Blackhole, Belly and Yung got their wish. They've silenced another voice on advanced strategic gambling. It all fits in with their way of doing things which is the way of darkness, unenlightenment, bottomless ignorance, and infantile stupidity.
    Aww...shoot. I didn't realize Monet had announced this or I wouldn't have made a post to him in the Wov thread this morning.

    I can understand his feeling though. I go back and forth on whether to continue participating here, sometimes thinking why bother, doing no one any good or benefit, other times thinking I will not let the likes of Singer, Blackhole and Alan drive me away from participating. Always just hoping the site somehow heads in a new better direction. One can always hope.
    Actually I meant I will not be chiming in about advantage plays anymore or what is going on currently inside of Casinos in Vegas. Partly because I have said enough and partly because nobody cares. I guess Maxpen could be correct in thinking my posts have caused the Casinos to fix things. I doubt it though. Either way it doesn't matter. VP is almost dead and all the information I posted is almost obsolete. If you want to AP these days you have to do things differently compared to years past.

  9. #129
    Bob Dancer's May 1st column at LasVegasAdvisor.com addresses some of what monet has been talking about, and Dancer promises his next column will discuss gray area advantage play that even he thinks might be considered cheating.

  10. #130
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    It looks like Mendelson, Singer, Blackhole, Belly and Yung got their wish. They've silenced another voice on advanced strategic gambling. It all fits in with their way of doing things which is the way of darkness, unenlightenment, bottomless ignorance, and infantile stupidity.
    Aww...shoot. I didn't realize Monet had announced this or I wouldn't have made a post to him in the Wov thread this morning.

    I can understand his feeling though. I go back and forth on whether to continue participating here, sometimes thinking why bother, doing no one any good or benefit, other times thinking I will not let the likes of Singer, Blackhole and Alan drive me away from participating. Always just hoping the site somehow heads in a new better direction. One can always hope.
    Actually I meant I will not be chiming in about advantage plays anymore or what is going on currently inside of Casinos in Vegas. Partly because I have said enough and partly because nobody cares. I guess Maxpen could be correct in thinking my posts have caused the Casinos to fix things. I doubt it though. Either way it doesn't matter. VP is almost dead and all the information I posted is almost obsolete. If you want to AP these days you have to do things differently compared to years past.
    I won't be chiming in about advantage plays or anything meaningful either. The road pic thread is dead, killed by Singer shitting all over it. I post my pics on Twitter now. I'm also giving up a little info on certain plays there too. No good to do it here. Singer will just shit all over it. Singer puts ignorant blather in all the threads here so best that I just do the same. Ignorant blather begets ignorant blather. This is just a troll site now as far as I'm concerned. Let's troll, tards.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  11. #131
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Let's troll, tards.
    Honestly, MC, where have you been, if you've just discovered that sites like this are for entertainment only? Nothing more can come of it, except, perhaps, for some good old-fashioned scams. But people are wiser now. The internet is old news.
    78255585899=317*13723*17989=(310+7)*[(13730-7)*(100*100+7979+10)]-->LOVE avatar@137_371_179_791, or 137_371_17[3^2]_7[3^2]1, 1=V-->Ace, low. 78255585899-->99858555287=(99858555288-1)=[-1+(72*2227)*(722777-100000)]={-1+(72*2227)*[(2000+700777+20000)-100000]}-->1_722_227_277_772_1. 7×8×2×5×5×5×8×5×8×9×9=362880000=(1000000000-6√97020000-100000)-->169_721. (7/8×2/5×5/5×8/5×8/9×9)={[(-.1+.9)]^2×(6+1)}-->1961=√4*2.24; (1/7×8/2×5/5×5/8×5/8×9/9)={1/[7×(-.2+1)^2]}-->1721=[(10*10/4)/(√4+110)].

  12. #132
    Originally Posted by Bill Yung View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Let's troll, tards.
    Honestly, MC, where have you been, if you've just discovered that sites like this are for entertainment only? Nothing more can come of it, except, perhaps, for some good old-fashioned scams. But people are wiser now. The internet is old news.
    Unless, of course, you're not anonymous.

  13. #133
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Thanks for sharing nerakil... of course my information is for local ID but that doesn't matter. Out of state will generate more rooms and the offers will be different but as a general rule of thumb the current conditions are a 1% return for mailers. That is a safe way to calculate your expected return or value. Things change constantly. Some examples... lucky dragon was giving 4K a month for months. SLS went crazy for about 5 months giving 1900 every month. Westgate was giving all my cards 2900 a month for over a year before someone got caught. All of these were well over 1% added. So MC showed the math formula but you have to know when and where this stuff is going on because it keeps changing. You can't listen to Rob Singer and his 10 year old information about GVR and black cards.
    Anyone know mickey`s formula that monet is referring to above in red? Or what thread to find that in?

  14. #134
    Originally Posted by SplitFaceDisaster View Post
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Thanks for sharing nerakil... of course my information is for local ID but that doesn't matter. Out of state will generate more rooms and the offers will be different but as a general rule of thumb the current conditions are a 1% return for mailers. That is a safe way to calculate your expected return or value. Things change constantly. Some examples... lucky dragon was giving 4K a month for months. SLS went crazy for about 5 months giving 1900 every month. Westgate was giving all my cards 2900 a month for over a year before someone got caught. All of these were well over 1% added. So MC showed the math formula but you have to know when and where this stuff is going on because it keeps changing. You can't listen to Rob Singer and his 10 year old information about GVR and black cards.
    Anyone know mickey`s formula that monet is referring to above in red? Or what thread to find that in?
    Look in the Mystery Progressives thread. I'll be putting up more information there when I get the time.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  15. #135
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by SplitFaceDisaster View Post
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Thanks for sharing nerakil... of course my information is for local ID but that doesn't matter. Out of state will generate more rooms and the offers will be different but as a general rule of thumb the current conditions are a 1% return for mailers. That is a safe way to calculate your expected return or value. Things change constantly. Some examples... lucky dragon was giving 4K a month for months. SLS went crazy for about 5 months giving 1900 every month. Westgate was giving all my cards 2900 a month for over a year before someone got caught. All of these were well over 1% added. So MC showed the math formula but you have to know when and where this stuff is going on because it keeps changing. You can't listen to Rob Singer and his 10 year old information about GVR and black cards.
    Anyone know mickey`s formula that monet is referring to above in red? Or what thread to find that in?
    Look in the Mystery Progressives thread. I'll be putting up more information there when I get the time.
    Gotcha; thanks mickey!

  16. #136
    Has anyone had a situation where they were card-pulling, hit a jackpot, but the jackpot got credited to their card anyway? I'm pretty sure this happened to me recently, was just curious if this is common.

  17. #137
    Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Has anyone had a situation where they were card-pulling, hit a jackpot, but the jackpot got credited to their card anyway? I'm pretty sure this happened to me recently, was just curious if this is common.
    My understanding is that card pulling doesn't work. Once the bet is made the result will be recorded even if you pull the card before the draw.

  18. #138
    Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Has anyone had a situation where they were card-pulling, hit a jackpot, but the jackpot got credited to their card anyway? I'm pretty sure this happened to me recently, was just curious if this is common.
    Depends on what Casino you are in and when you pulled it.
    I have never seen it work on a Reel Machine but on VP it still works at certain locations in Vegas.
    It is just like Free Play. You can still rip off Free Play if you are fast enough at certain places in Vegas and the computer won't catch it.
    It seems most places are starting to change systems and this will not be viable in the future but still works at enough places even in 2018.

  19. #139
    I pulled it before the bet was made. The attendant even mentioned that I hadn't been playing on a card, but didn't seem that concerned. Seems like they would have had to audit my play afterwards, and figure out that I had been using the card on previous hands.

  20. #140
    Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I pulled it before the bet was made. The attendant even mentioned that I hadn't been playing on a card, but didn't seem that concerned. Seems like they would have had to audit my play afterwards, and figure out that I had been using the card on previous hands.
    If you pulled the card BEFORE you made the bet how could the bet be part of your record UNLESS someone tampered with your account. Is that what you're saying, that someone tampered with your account?

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