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  1. #261
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    I had not noticed this thread before now.

    So this running coin through machines seeking a fraction percent back is what Axel does (when he can, sounds like he hasn’t even been able to do much of that, lately)…no wonder then that Axel seethes with rage against anyone who’s actually living large, and pops a boner at the prospect of making a C-note off a garage sale broken laptop.

    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I've been sitting in bed
    I repaired a laptops plug-in Jack I picked up for $4o that's now worth about $180.
    But still doing any of this requires getting out of bed…where does he find the time? You gotta push a lot of buttons under a lot of identities to make this sort of machine play worthwhile.
    This is Monet’s thread, not Axel’s. But I can tell you people doing this at high levels are very intelligent, disciplined and have to have a large bankroll. It takes work and time like any other job. And some were not very happy with Monet for sharing the information.

    You are trying to use anything at this point to discredit Axel and it’s getting old. Almost everyone calls bullshit on you saying and perhaps even believing you have a Baccarat system and it seems to really bother you. To the point of trying to belittle others that are good people in the world offline that matters.

  2. #262
    I am not discrediting Axel. He needs no help from anyone he does it to himself.

    Plus, if you read his posts...I know they are poorly written and overly long hence hard to follow, but the gist of it is that he's claiming that I am posting made up pictures and don't even play. Which is ironic, because that is EXACTLY what I am saying about him, that he's never high rolled in his entire life, except the proof I have - is all the contradictions he has in his story, making a joke of himself commenting on CTRs, internet SEO, casino high end play, credit lines, table game play, high rolling - things that he's obviously never experienced (even if he could get out of bed to experience them).

    Take a look even, when he says
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Some of us don't need to float company credit lines when we can simply put cash on deposit and take out markers, get comps, and all the other b*******.
    he's saying that he COULD do that, just like when he has posted in the past that he (or someone) COULD post pictures of high rolling. Meaning that - he never has taken out markers, never gotten high end comps, never has high rolled. Even his own words betray the fact that he's never done any of these things...but that he thinks that he could.


    That's the point - that he's commenting on things he knows nothing about - no personal experience.

    If all he were saying was that I must not have a winning system, I'd not even bother to respond.
    Last edited by MDawg; 06-11-2020 at 12:13 PM.
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  3. #263
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    I am not discrediting Axel. He needs no help from anyone he does it to himself.

    Plus, if you read his posts...I know they are poorly written and overly long hence hard to follow, but the gist of it is that he's claiming that I am posting made up pictures and don't even play. Which is ironic, because that is EXACTLY what I am saying about him, that he's never high rolled in his entire life, except the proof I have - is all the contradictions he has in his story, making a joke of himself commenting on CTRs, internet SEO, casino high end play, credit lines, table game play, high rolling - things that he's obviously never experienced (even if he could get out of bed to experience them).

    Take a look even, when he says
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Some of us don't need to float company credit lines when we can simply put cash on deposit and take out markers, get comps, and all the other b*******.
    he's saying that he COULD do that, just like when he has posted in the past that he (or someone) COULD post pictures of high rolling. Meaning that - he never has taken out markers, never gotten high end comps, never has high rolled. Even his own words betray the fact that he's never done any of these things...but that he thinks that he could.


    That's the point - that he's commenting on things he knows nothing about - no personal experience.

    If all he were saying was that I must not have a winning system, I'd not even bother to respond.
    At this time I have no reason to do that, I have in the past multiple times.

    I've had tens of thousands of dollars in front money deposited across multiple casinos at one time.

    As a matter of fact, some years ago I had a large amount of money, thousands(I can't remember the exact amount now) that I forgot about at a downtown Casino. What reminded me was when I found an old tattered illegible receipt tucked away inside a hidden area inside my wallet. So I proceeded to go down to the casino to retrieve my front money. They had absolutely no record of my front money and I no longer had a receipt that was legible. I thought for sure I was going to get f*****. After talking to the accounting department they informed me they only keep front money on deposit for about a year or so(she informed me mine had actually been there much longer than that), at that time they send it to the state in your name under unclaimed money.

    When I went to research my unclaimed money, I had a happy surprise to find out the state also had other unclaimed money and the contents of a safe deposit box that I had at a bank since before 1997. Apparently, they got rid of their safe deposit boxes for some reason and I somehow missed the notice, probably because I had an old address on file. I had mostly old coins, chips and rare casino tokens in there. Apparently, I also had a key chain with another safe deposit box key attached to it. They somehow broke the plastic on the keychain. They estimated the value on the keychain at about $5 and gave me a check for that as well.

  4. #264
    Originally Posted by jdog View Post
    Thought I'd bring this thread back to life for post-corona promotions. Thanks to everyone who posted some of their mail numbers, but especially monet for providing so much great info. As an out-of-towner this stuff is invaluable. A couple current observations from home:

    It appears Stations has dumped their continuous 3x points for 10x on Sun & Thur only

    4Queens is offering $10FP for every 100pts through August. Anybody know what a point costs coin in at 4Q on 99%+VP? IIRC it's something like $10-20?
    4 Queens is $8 a point for sub 100% VP.

  5. #265
    Originally Posted by patlives View Post
    4 Queens is $8 a point for sub 100% VP.
    Cool, thanks for the info. Not bad at all, that's 1.25% if my math is correct.

  6. #266
    4 queens promo looks like it’s capped at $400 so it’s a good deal but not like you can work it like a job for three months.

  7. #267
    Originally Posted by jdog View Post
    Originally Posted by patlives View Post
    4 Queens is $8 a point for sub 100% VP.
    Cool, thanks for the info. Not bad at all, that's 1.25% if my math is correct.
    You should also get some cash back for your points, and perhaps some future mail offers. People really love that Hugo's Cellar, so if you put any value on comps like that, perhaps you're sitting around 2.5 %

  8. #268
    Both good points. Being out of state I've found 4Q mail to be pretty sporadic and the most FP I ever got was $20, then nothing for the next month. But yeah the comp dollars are useful to me to an extent. It says on the website 20pts per comp dollar, so that's another .6% (kind of). I'll have to check out Hugo's. Looking at the menu the prices are quite reasonable so those comp dollars could come in handy for sure.

    But since they put in that White Castle it's hard to stay away lol. Where I grew up we had them but not where I live now so it's kind of a delicacy

  9. #269
    Originally Posted by jdog View Post
    Both good points. Being out of state I've found 4Q mail to be pretty sporadic and the most FP I ever got was $20, then nothing for the next month. But yeah the comp dollars are useful to me to an extent. It says on the website 20pts per comp dollar, so that's another .6% (kind of). I'll have to check out Hugo's. Looking at the menu the prices are quite reasonable so those comp dollars could come in handy for sure.

    But since they put in that White Castle it's hard to stay away lol. Where I grew up we had them but not where I live now so it's kind of a delicacy
    If your over 55, you can get an additional 20% off Hugo's. You can also use them for a voucher to the probably superior Binion's steak house, but without that discount.

    4Q's did only send out 8 mailers a year to out of staters with March and June being a smaller 1 month offer. Offer wise, it hasn't been a great choice for running through a grand or two every two or three days. They have been offering $300 and $400 FP. I know someone who would run $20,000 through on a single day and regularly got $400. I can do that over a 3 day stay and generally get $300. They based their offers over the past 2 or 3 trips so it can take a while to see that. Monet probably knows some secrets. The stuff I'm talking about is widely known among 4Q's players.

  10. #270
    Ok so I just got FP mail from Boyd's but I've only played at California and Gold Coast. However neither of those hotels were mentioned in the mail, it only referenced Aliante, Sam's Town, Suncoast and The Orleans. Anybody know what's up with this?

  11. #271
    Bumping this thread because it is actually about GAMBLING.

  12. #272
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    I had not noticed this thread before now.

    So this running coin through machines seeking a fraction percent back is what Axel does (when he can, sounds like he hasn’t even been able to do much of that, lately)…no wonder then that Axel seethes with rage against anyone who’s actually living large, and pops a boner at the prospect of making a C-note off a garage sale broken laptop.

    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I've been sitting in bed
    I repaired a laptops plug-in Jack I picked up for $4o that's now worth about $180.
    But still doing any of this requires getting out of bed…where does he find the time? You gotta push a lot of buttons under a lot of identities to make this sort of machine play worthwhile.
    You don't know anything about it. Go in with a new card and run 100K in action at video poker in a days time on a 98% game. Expected loss about 2K. Then get 2K a week in free play for the next 6 months or a year. Guys were doing it at multiple casinos across the country. Its the reason freeplay is so skimpy these days. The casinos lost so much money they got butthurt and quit giving so much of it out.
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 02-28-2021 at 05:18 AM.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  13. #273
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by MDawg View Post
    I had not noticed this thread before now.

    So this running coin through machines seeking a fraction percent back is what Axel does (when he can, sounds like he hasn’t even been able to do much of that, lately)…no wonder then that Axel seethes with rage against anyone who’s actually living large, and pops a boner at the prospect of making a C-note off a garage sale broken laptop.

    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    I've been sitting in bed
    I repaired a laptops plug-in Jack I picked up for $4o that's now worth about $180.
    But still doing any of this requires getting out of bed…where does he find the time? You gotta push a lot of buttons under a lot of identities to make this sort of machine play worthwhile.
    You don't know anything about it. Go in with a new card and run 100K in action at video poker in a days time on a 98% game. Expected loss about 2K. Then get 2K a week in free play for the next 6 months or a year. Guys were doing it at multiple casinos across the country. Its the reason freeplay is so skimpy these days. The casinos lost so much money they got butthurt and quit giving so much of it out.
    Mfag(sorry, I don't mean to disparage gay people by lumping him in with you guy's) knows nothing about anything other than what he reads online and then regurgitates on the forums(It's blatantly obvious*see his posts in the WOV Bitcoin thread for a good example of this and a good laugh).

    I don't stick to one thing when it comes to AP, I never have. I play whatever is the best thing available... that I know about( things that I'm interested in). There are very few AP gambling aspects I haven't been involved with to some degree, some very limited and some more extensive. Both live and on machines.... roulette, Baccarat, BJ, craps, big 6, other table games, horse racing, sports, VP, slots, poker, Keno and more. I have been to so many different cities across United States I can't even recall them all off hand.


    The Free Play mail game has been going strong since the early 2000's. It's always changing, so you have to adapt constantly. Some places get worst, some places get better, and some remain the same. Some places have it figured out fairly well and theres not much there. There are lots of places in Vegas like that. In the time it's gotten worst at many places, but one must remember that more and more casinos keep opening, and with that, it brings new opportunities. Only a small fraction of the AP opportunities are discussed online most AP's don't really participate on the online forums. especially the old school guys.

    We paused our free play mail AP game for a while during the shutdowns since we were uncertain if the casinos would be open when it came time to collect. There's always some online casino opportunities that the shutdowns don't affect. The online casinos ramped up on their promos during the shut downs.

  14. #274
    Actually I told the Wizard that I had something for this drunken lowlife imbecile. Unfortunately, AxelAss took the bait, so I will have to destroy him now.
    Last edited by MDawg; 03-01-2021 at 08:47 AM.
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  15. #275
    Maybe Bill Zender can help?

    Future Baccarat Table Game Training Sessions over the Next Several Weeks

    Continuing through March, I will present the rest of the four-session series on Baccarat. There will be a fee charged to register for each session. The next sessions are as follows:

    Baccarat Session 2 – Baccarat Procedures and Culture – Thursday March 11th at 300PM EST (Noon PST). Fee: $150 – The registration link will be sent out one week before scheduled session.

    Baccarat Session 3 – Baccarat Game Protection – Thursday March 18th at 300PM EST (Noon PST). Fee: $150 – The registration link will be sent out one week before scheduled session.

    Baccarat Session 4 – Baccarat Winning Player Evaluation Strategy– Thursday March 25th at 300PM EST (Noon PST). Fee: $150 – The registration link will be sent out one week before scheduled session.

  16. #276
    Originally Posted by Prozema View Post
    Maybe Bill Zender can help?

    Future Baccarat Table Game Training Sessions over the Next Several Weeks

    Continuing through March, I will present the rest of the four-session series on Baccarat. There will be a fee charged to register for each session. The next sessions are as follows:

    Baccarat Session 2 – Baccarat Procedures and Culture – Thursday March 11th at 300PM EST (Noon PST). Fee: $150 – The registration link will be sent out one week before scheduled session.

    Baccarat Session 3 – Baccarat Game Protection – Thursday March 18th at 300PM EST (Noon PST). Fee: $150 – The registration link will be sent out one week before scheduled session.

    Baccarat Session 4 – Baccarat Winning Player Evaluation Strategy– Thursday March 25th at 300PM EST (Noon PST). Fee: $150 – The registration link will be sent out one week before scheduled session.
    Decisions decisions, this wonderful opportunity or Christopher Mitchell's bootcamp....I can't decide tough choices.

  17. #277
    Can't wait until the Zenders of the world are dead.

  18. #278
    Originally Posted by Ozzy View Post
    Originally Posted by Prozema View Post
    Maybe Bill Zender can help?

    Future Baccarat Table Game Training Sessions over the Next Several Weeks

    Continuing through March, I will present the rest of the four-session series on Baccarat. There will be a fee charged to register for each session. The next sessions are as follows:

    Baccarat Session 2 – Baccarat Procedures and Culture – Thursday March 11th at 300PM EST (Noon PST). Fee: $150 – The registration link will be sent out one week before scheduled session.

    Baccarat Session 3 – Baccarat Game Protection – Thursday March 18th at 300PM EST (Noon PST). Fee: $150 – The registration link will be sent out one week before scheduled session.

    Baccarat Session 4 – Baccarat Winning Player Evaluation Strategy– Thursday March 25th at 300PM EST (Noon PST). Fee: $150 – The registration link will be sent out one week before scheduled session.
    Decisions decisions, this wonderful opportunity or Christopher Mitchell's bootcamp....I can't decide tough choices.
    If you are going to sell gambling information it's best to sell the stupid shit because there are a million times more suckers to sell to than AP's.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  19. #279
    Companies love to pay consultants.

  20. #280
    Originally Posted by Prozema View Post
    Companies love to pay consultants.
    Those companies haven't realized that these 'consultants' are just AP'ing them.

    Why would any outsider give 2 shits how and why casinos win or lose money?

    Speaking of these people, what happened to the supposed best cheater in history Richard Marcus? His blog was discontinued.

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