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  1. #21
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    “If nothing exists,” inquired Dokuon, “where did this anger come from?”
    Things exist just long enough to say they don't exist.
    78255585899=317*13723*17989=(310+7)*[(13730-7)*(100*100+7979+10)]-->LOVE avatar@137_371_179_791, or 137_371_17[3^2]_7[3^2]1, 1=V-->Ace, low. 78255585899-->99858555287=(99858555288-1)=[-1+(72*2227)*(722777-100000)]={-1+(72*2227)*[(2000+700777+20000)-100000]}-->1_722_227_277_772_1. 7×8×2×5×5×5×8×5×8×9×9=362880000=(1000000000-6√97020000-100000)-->169_721. (7/8×2/5×5/5×8/5×8/9×9)={[(-.1+.9)]^2×(6+1)}-->1961=√4*2.24; (1/7×8/2×5/5×5/8×5/8×9/9)={1/[7×(-.2+1)^2]}-->1721=[(10*10/4)/(√4+110)].

  2. #22

  3. #23
    Unlike science fiction, or the real thing, it's supposed to not make sense.

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    78255585899=317*13723*17989=(310+7)*[(13730-7)*(100*100+7979+10)]-->LOVE avatar@137_371_179_791, or 137_371_17[3^2]_7[3^2]1, 1=V-->Ace, low. 78255585899-->99858555287=(99858555288-1)=[-1+(72*2227)*(722777-100000)]={-1+(72*2227)*[(2000+700777+20000)-100000]}-->1_722_227_277_772_1. 7×8×2×5×5×5×8×5×8×9×9=362880000=(1000000000-6√97020000-100000)-->169_721. (7/8×2/5×5/5×8/5×8/9×9)={[(-.1+.9)]^2×(6+1)}-->1961=√4*2.24; (1/7×8/2×5/5×5/8×5/8×9/9)={1/[7×(-.2+1)^2]}-->1721=[(10*10/4)/(√4+110)].

  4. #24
    Originally Posted by Bill Yung View Post
    Things exist just long enough to say they don't exist.
    Attempting to discern some meaning from these obtuse statements is like trying to grasp smoke.

    What, Me Worry?

  5. #25
    Yes but as you undoubtedly learned in law school, obtusity in this or even in a parallel realm of reality is conjugated by rather simplistic yet archaic pulses of entropy that is undeniable, yet it vexes the inner being so as to create figurative stipulated flocculation and literal thixotropic truisms

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    What, Me Worry?

  7. #27
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Attempting to discern some meaning from these obtuse statements is like trying to grasp smoke.
    How so? A vacuum cleaner with a good filter can do that. Or an electronic air cleaner.

    Smoke is easy. Matter and dimension are harder to come by. Are there any completely empty spaces, or completely full materials? Then, can certainty, or its opposite, uncertainty, really exist? We are surrounded by compromises, and even paradoxes. Those are a dime a dozen. And on the scrap heap of talk.

    Or is it our insecurity that drives us to feign and surround ourselves with our own whimsical laws and wishes? Can there be one right law of any sort to do anything? Political situations are dealt with to the letter of a so-called law regardless a democracy or other political structure. We reign in ourselves, or wait for others to do it for us. There is no book of life with the standard, definitive answers at the back. Yet we strive for such, and in such vainly pompous manners. The price of being yes-boys to universe.
    78255585899=317*13723*17989=(310+7)*[(13730-7)*(100*100+7979+10)]-->LOVE avatar@137_371_179_791, or 137_371_17[3^2]_7[3^2]1, 1=V-->Ace, low. 78255585899-->99858555287=(99858555288-1)=[-1+(72*2227)*(722777-100000)]={-1+(72*2227)*[(2000+700777+20000)-100000]}-->1_722_227_277_772_1. 7×8×2×5×5×5×8×5×8×9×9=362880000=(1000000000-6√97020000-100000)-->169_721. (7/8×2/5×5/5×8/5×8/9×9)={[(-.1+.9)]^2×(6+1)}-->1961=√4*2.24; (1/7×8/2×5/5×5/8×5/8×9/9)={1/[7×(-.2+1)^2]}-->1721=[(10*10/4)/(√4+110)].

  8. #28
    The simple fact is that we are born and we experience our perceived surroundings through our several senses.

    There will always be unanswered questions.

    But the only relevant question for us here today is simply this: how should we best live our lives?

    Paradoxes be damned; we must survive.

    That is a biological imperative, the ultimate instinct.

    We order our world as best we deem fit in order to feed, clothe, and shelter ourselves; everything else is optional.

    Deep thoughts are fine, when life affords the luxury to dwell on them.
    What, Me Worry?

  9. #29
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    The simple fact is that we are born and we experience our perceived surroundings through our several senses.

    There will always be unanswered questions.

    But the only relevant question for us here today is simply this: how should we best live our lives?

    Paradoxes be damned; we must survive.

    That is a biological imperative, the ultimate instinct.

    We order our world as best we deem fit in order to feed, clothe, and shelter ourselves; everything else is optional.

    Deep thoughts are fine, when life affords the luxury to dwell on them.

    Mr. V, this is Editor Bob. I feel obligated to point out that survival of genes, not individuals, is the ultimate biological goal. Food, clothing, shelter are all optional proximate goals. The ultimate goal is ongoing genetic survival.

    Which is why the Prez, banging all these hot women, is such a stellar example of biological leadership. Claiming you'd run into the withering fire of automatic weapons while opting out of 'Nam due to bone spurs -- all in service of genetic representation. The claim gets you laid. The bone spurs let you get to the ripe old age of 70 while getting laid. A genius plan; a genius self-presentation. Of course, the plebes have to buy it, but that doesn't seem to have been a problem.

  10. #30
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    The simple fact is that we are born and we experience our perceived surroundings through our several senses.

    There will always be unanswered questions.

    But the only relevant question for us here today is simply this: how should we best live our lives?

    Paradoxes be damned; we must survive.

    That is a biological imperative, the ultimate instinct.

    We order our world as best we deem fit in order to feed, clothe, and shelter ourselves; everything else is optional.

    Deep thoughts are fine, when life affords the luxury to dwell on them.

    Mr. V, this is Editor Bob. I feel obligated to point out that survival of genes, not individuals, is the ultimate biological goal. Food, clothing, shelter are all optional proximate goals. The ultimate goal is ongoing genetic survival.

    Which is why the Prez, banging all these hot women, is such a stellar example of biological leadership. Claiming you'd run into the withering fire of automatic weapons while opting out of 'Nam due to bone spurs -- all in service of genetic representation. The claim gets you laid. The bone spurs let you get to the ripe old age of 70 while getting laid. A genius plan; a genius self-presentation. Of course, the plebes have to buy it, but that doesn't seem to have been a problem.
    The killer’s AR was a semi-auto. The president didn’t exactly claim he would run in there, he said he believed he’d do it. Bluster to be sure. Even stupid you might say. But, to see all the misquotes today in print is kinda sad.

  11. #31
    Oh, c'mon.

    He'd send in a couple of his Secret Service agents, had he actually been there.

    Pre-presidency, he'd send in a body guard, if anyone.

    But the notion that draft dodgin' Donnie would actually man up and grow a pair is simply too hard to believe.

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    He's got the roar down, I'll hand him that.
    What, Me Worry?

  12. #32
    I’m not saying that he would actually do it. Some people would, most would like to believe they would.

  13. #33
    Originally Posted by dannyj View Post
    I’m not saying that he would actually do it. Some people would, most would like to believe they would.
    I want to be clear on my personal standing regarding this. If I'm armed with a handgun, and I'm a school guard, there is no way on God's green earth I am going into a building with an unknown number of shooters toting AR-15s. You don't even have the shooter(s) identified at that point. And if you are an adult wearing a uniform of any kind, you are an instant priority target. If the shooter(s) is from the school and knows you, he also can identify you as an armed guard. So you are walking into a scenario with shooter(s) who have you massively outgunned, you can't easily identify them, and they can instantly identify you. It's suicide.

  14. #34
    A trained LEO should be able to enter a school in that situation and work his way toward the shooter, using classrooms/classroom doors to leap frog from cover to cover until he sees the shooter and can take him down.

    Arm-chair quarterbacking is just so easy.
    What, Me Worry?

  15. #35
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by dannyj View Post
    I’m not saying that he would actually do it. Some people would, most would like to believe they would.
    I want to be clear on my personal standing regarding this. If I'm armed with a handgun, and I'm a school guard, there is no way on God's green earth I am going into a building with an unknown number of shooters toting AR-15s. You don't even have the shooter(s) identified at that point. And if you are an adult wearing a uniform of any kind, you are an instant priority target. If the shooter(s) is from the school and knows you, he also can identify you as an armed guard. So you are walking into a scenario with shooter(s) who have you massively outgunned, you can't easily identify them, and they can instantly identify you. It's suicide.
    He wasn’t just a school guard, he was a sheriff’s deputy. I don’t claim to know exactly what happened or what he did or didn’t do. I’m just going by what the sheriff has claimed the deputy didn’t do. Tough job indeed, but he signed up for it.

    I agree with MrV in that a trained officer would work towards the shooter taking cover where possible but always moving forward, knowing that each shot they hear could be the end of another life.

  16. #36
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    There will always be unanswered questions.
    Hence, the need for strategies to deal with this.

    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    But the only relevant question for us here today is simply this: how should we best live our lives?
    There is no best way. The reason that there is no God; or a God who doesn't intervene. He wouldn't/doesn't know, either.

    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Paradoxes be damned; we must survive.
    Though a placement and understanding of paradox is helpful, those can all be cancelled out, eg, as are various mathematical infinities.

    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    That is a biological imperative, the ultimate instinct.
    Genes die out, too. Not even the human species was always here. There has to be more to it than even life.

    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    We order our world as best we deem fit in order to feed, clothe, and shelter ourselves; everything else is optional.
    Comfort first, just behind the state of the economy. The bigger the economy, the bigger the army. At least that's how they do it.

    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Deep thoughts are fine, when life affords the luxury to dwell on them.
    Deep thoughts dispel the want of superficial luxuries.
    Last edited by Bill Yung; 02-28-2018 at 11:33 AM.
    78255585899=317*13723*17989=(310+7)*[(13730-7)*(100*100+7979+10)]-->LOVE avatar@137_371_179_791, or 137_371_17[3^2]_7[3^2]1, 1=V-->Ace, low. 78255585899-->99858555287=(99858555288-1)=[-1+(72*2227)*(722777-100000)]={-1+(72*2227)*[(2000+700777+20000)-100000]}-->1_722_227_277_772_1. 7×8×2×5×5×5×8×5×8×9×9=362880000=(1000000000-6√97020000-100000)-->169_721. (7/8×2/5×5/5×8/5×8/9×9)={[(-.1+.9)]^2×(6+1)}-->1961=√4*2.24; (1/7×8/2×5/5×5/8×5/8×9/9)={1/[7×(-.2+1)^2]}-->1721=[(10*10/4)/(√4+110)].

  17. #37
    Originally Posted by Bill Yung View Post
    There has to be more to it than even life.
    Oh?

    Why?

    I accept the proposition and seeming reality that we are but a fortuitous grouping of chemicals which give rise to the spark of consciousness.

    While I may yearn for more, I do not see that as viable.

    "Be here now:" - Ram Dass

    "That's all, folks!" - Porky Pig
    What, Me Worry?

  18. #38
    We are what we eat, etc, but consciousness isn't similarly varied. Some have better brains than others, or better arms for swimming, but we are all as much "here" in the self, though to varying degrees of physical and mental alertness. Chemicals alone can't account for this. People don't have olympic or world-class consciousnesses. But then, how is consciousness distinguished?
    78255585899=317*13723*17989=(310+7)*[(13730-7)*(100*100+7979+10)]-->LOVE avatar@137_371_179_791, or 137_371_17[3^2]_7[3^2]1, 1=V-->Ace, low. 78255585899-->99858555287=(99858555288-1)=[-1+(72*2227)*(722777-100000)]={-1+(72*2227)*[(2000+700777+20000)-100000]}-->1_722_227_277_772_1. 7×8×2×5×5×5×8×5×8×9×9=362880000=(1000000000-6√97020000-100000)-->169_721. (7/8×2/5×5/5×8/5×8/9×9)={[(-.1+.9)]^2×(6+1)}-->1961=√4*2.24; (1/7×8/2×5/5×5/8×5/8×9/9)={1/[7×(-.2+1)^2]}-->1721=[(10*10/4)/(√4+110)].

  19. #39
    It appears we may soon develop quasi-sentient AI; hello, Terminator.

    Certain primates may be approaching sentience; hello, Planet of the Apes.

    Running headlong into the abyss.
    What, Me Worry?

  20. #40
    some live life to the fullest while they have the chance and others in their armchairs, as pseudo philosophers sit and wonder why, what and how.

    i drove 7 hours round trip today to reno, to check in on the house(there was some light snow, and i like to spread salt to avoid a lawsuit) and make a few bets.I left at 8 am and got back at 3:30.
    And not once did I wonder if life is a mutual masquerade as the existentialists submit, or if god loves me as the religious folks might , nor did I question what is real within the realm of quantum mechanics.

    I took in the visual sights, listened to some tunes, some sports talk radio as well, stopped off for a snack......enjoyed every bite......and never once thought if "we are alone" or "whats the meaning of life"......I was too busy enjoying life .

    I let the armchair philosophers in their make believe smoking jackets, smoking their make believe pipes do all the wondering. They can site atomic theory..doesnt matter....because stomic theory today will be shot to hell in 20 years....just as it was after I learned it in the 70's. We think we know.....but we dont know. Today we draw conclusions based onwhat are facts today, but down the road what we thought were facts....were just mere wrong observations based on incomplete information.

    thats why the armchair philosophers of today make me smile. There is way too much missing information in this world,...and I am not going to discover it by sitting in the armchair blowing smoke. And there is way too much living to do rather than draw conclusions on the state of life in this world, while pondering the inponderable.

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