Con men

[MisterV]

Do these so-called AP's actually use stolen or "lost" cards of others without their permission?

How can they access any accrued free play without knowing the card owner's P.I.N., which is typically required to redeem anything?

Sounds like a felony to me, and if so, a woeful cost/benefit situation.

These birds would be better off getting a real job and then gambling after hours in their spare time.

[Mission146]

Do these so-called AP's actually use stolen or "lost" cards of others without their permission?

How can they access any accrued free play without knowing the card owner's P.I.N., which is typically required to redeem anything?

Sounds like a felony to me, and if so, a woeful cost/benefit situation.

These birds would be better off getting a real job and then gambling after hours in their spare time.

No, how would you do that? I'm not saying it's never been done in history (I've never seen it, though) but you would obviously have to know the PIN. The only way what you are describing could happen is if someone ran around watching people put PINs in and hoping for them to lose the card, or if someone wrote the PIN actually on the card, I guess.

It would be a woeful cost/benefit and I imagine quite possibly illegal.

Besides that, if you jacked someone's Free Play without their permission and they go to the Players Club wondering what happened to their Free Play, I would hope the casino could see what machine the Free Play was played on and then would go to the surveillance and WHAMMO as soon as the casino sees the person that played it in there again.

I know some systems can see what specific machines a card was played on, but I believe that there are also systems that cannot.

ADDED: The CET properties in Atlantic City (maybe everywhere) have one really cool thing in that the numbers are scrambled when you put your PIN in, which is to say that they never appear in order. The result is that nobody could ever see what PIN you are putting in unless they are practically right next to you. It would be cool if everywhere did that, but I imagine there are a bunch of PIN resets because of people putting their own PIN wrong too many times.