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  1. #1
    I am out of town for dealing with some personal issues, so I haven't had a chance to read all the posts in the last 6 days. But just a few minutes of skimming just a couple threads confirms the direction the site has taken since Rob Singer's return. In fairness, this negative direction began even before Singer's return. It began with Alan's return....when he began defending and talking about Singer's return. THAT is when all the AP-haters reunited and returned spitting fire.

    In the brief bit that I read, every single post of Singer and blackhole contains a personal attack, mostly against mickeycrimm, but a few directed at redietz, and even a couple directed at Axelwolf, RS and myself....none who have even participated in any discussion in that time frame.

    In the case of mickey, there are legitimate discussions of machine AP techniques. Singer and Blackhole take the low road attacking mickey's former days of alcoholism (of which he admits) and even his education. Anything to attempt to belittle someone and elevate themselves. Mickey to his credit has taken the high road and mostly ignored these personal attacks which have nothing to do with anything, except hatred and mickey's responds have been on topic, concerning AP.

    This is basically what the site was when I joined. We moved in a positive direction slowly over time. Dan indicated he wanted to move in that direction away from the gutter and attract new members for decent legitimate discussions. In less that a week, that has all been washed away and Dan has done nothing.

  2. #2
    What I enjoy most is when Argentino continually says something blatantly false, like I'm texting or calling him to sell him something, gets called on it, then admits, well, somebody is texting him, but it's okay that he lied because somebody is texting him. I also enjoy the folks repeating that I said something, but somehow neglecting to use the direct quote, mainly because there was no direct quote wherein I said anything like it. It's pretty obvious that if I had actually said that, they'd pull up the quote to make their point.

    I'll give Argentino a pass because he's the sexiest man alive. He's so hot that Republicans are blaming him for climate change.

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    Redietz, Kewlj isn't going to be able to reverse the bullshit you've been nailed to the cross on.

    Kewlj, these threads are men having conversations. Maybe you should spend more than a couple of minutes skimming threads and read all of them. Their were a lot of interesting topics discussed, and a lot of bullshit pointed out for all to see. In fact you were brought up a few times usually when bullshit was being pointed out.

    I guess if you're an active AP in L.V. like Monet is, it's okay to post negative opinions about AP'ing and other AP's and not get a mention on your AP hater list. You and all the AP's you mentioned live in a gambling fantasy world. Most are all nothing but gambling hustlers, like Monet said living day to day.

    Can we expect your next post to start exhibiting your mental disorders like last time?
    Last edited by blackhole; 04-10-2018 at 11:26 AM. Reason: Correct spelling before Keystone saw it.

  4. #4
    There`s not a mandatory law that you have to participate here so quit your whining KoolJ

  5. #5
    I'm trying to figure out why such an intelligent guy ignored the attacks on and lies about me....???

    May I whimper now too?

  6. #6
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    What I enjoy most is when Argentino continually says something blatantly false, like I'm texting or calling him to sell him something, gets called on it, then admits, well, somebody is texting him, but it's okay that he lied because somebody is texting him. I also enjoy the folks repeating that I said something, but somehow neglecting to use the direct quote, mainly because there was no direct quote wherein I said anything like it. It's pretty obvious that if I had actually said that, they'd pull up the quote to make their point.

    I'll give Argentino a pass because he's the sexiest man alive. He's so hot that Republicans are blaming him for climate change.
    Once again red, please stop with the lies and whining about me. I have been getting solicited by you and your "partners" for some time now.

  7. #7
    I fall mostly in the free speech camp. Not for bans and not for solicitations to Dan to do it. Believe someone or not, engage with someone or not. It’s all ones choice.

  8. #8
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    What I enjoy most is when Argentino continually says something blatantly false, like I'm texting or calling him to sell him something, gets called on it, then admits, well, somebody is texting him, but it's okay that he lied because somebody is texting him. I also enjoy the folks repeating that I said something, but somehow neglecting to use the direct quote, mainly because there was no direct quote wherein I said anything like it. It's pretty obvious that if I had actually said that, they'd pull up the quote to make their point.

    I'll give Argentino a pass because he's the sexiest man alive. He's so hot that Republicans are blaming him for climate change.
    Once again red, please stop with the lies and whining about me. I have been getting solicited by you and your "partners" for some time now.
    Complete nonsense. Why don't you come clean and report what tout service you signed up with? That would at least save other people from the hassle of dealing with that service. You could actually do people some good.

    Why would you give a tout service your phone number, anyway?

  9. #9
    You try to ignore things so easily red. I posted all of my phone numbers on this forum in a thread you posted in a few years ago, and you're the only one who chose to try and make a buck off of it with your sleazy "business".

    Your continued lies about this leaves you with zero credibility. And your pattern of refusals and denials fits in rather nicely with that.

  10. #10
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    You try to ignore things so easily red. I posted all of my phone numbers on this forum in a thread you posted in a few years ago, and you're the only one who chose to try and make a buck off of it with your sleazy "business".

    Your continued lies about this leaves you with zero credibility. And your pattern of refusals and denials fits in rather nicely with that.
    You gotta be kidding. I wouldn't take you for a client if I were dating you.

    I'm sure, if you thought I was the guy badgering you, you'd sit on this for several years.

    So what service did you sign up with? You should do the honorable thing and tell people, so they can either avoid it or make arrangements to not give their phone number.

    By the way, for the record, I haven't done anything (other than hedge futures) with baseball, college basketball, NBA, and hockey. That's a historical fact. If I'm texting you every day, it must be to say hello.

  11. #11
    Deleted post, I realized I stooped to the stupidity level of redietz.
    Last edited by blackhole; 04-10-2018 at 01:26 PM.

  12. #12
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I am out of town for dealing with some personal issues, so I haven't had a chance to read all the posts in the last 6 days. But just a few minutes of skimming just a couple threads confirms the direction the site has taken since Rob Singer's return. In fairness, this negative direction began even before Singer's return. It began with Alan's return....when he began defending and talking about Singer's return. THAT is when all the AP-haters reunited and returned spitting fire.

    In the brief bit that I read, every single post of Singer and blackhole contains a personal attack, mostly against mickeycrimm, but a few directed at redietz, and even a couple directed at Axelwolf, RS and myself....none who have even participated in any discussion in that time frame.

    In the case of mickey, there are legitimate discussions of machine AP techniques. Singer and Blackhole take the low road attacking mickey's former days of alcoholism (of which he admits) and even his education. Anything to attempt to belittle someone and elevate themselves. Mickey to his credit has taken the high road and mostly ignored these personal attacks which have nothing to do with anything, except hatred and mickey's responds have been on topic, concerning AP.

    This is basically what the site was when I joined. We moved in a positive direction slowly over time. Dan indicated he wanted to move in that direction away from the gutter and attract new members for decent legitimate discussions. In less that a week, that has all been washed away and Dan has done nothing.
    KewlJ you post a lot of great information, but your thin skin is getting the better of you.

  13. #13
    What sort of loser takes any of the gambling forum stuff seriously?

    Is it not possible for a few people to get away from life for a while w/o the constant and crazy interruptions from the "best slot/bj pro" ever types?

    There are no "best pro" gambler types. It's all about scams, hustling, and who is more hard-up.
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  14. #14
    when I got to this site KJ threw a fit and demanded that Dan ban me or else this site would crumble.

    So I have been away for4 days and during that time KJ is now again complaining that over the last 4 days the site id crumbling.

    It seems that the argument at hand is occuring on a single thread or maybe 2 if you count this one. 2 friggin threads do not destroy a board. The topic of "wov" is clearly on the heading of the thread....and anyone not interested can skip over it,

    HE JUST NEEDS TO GO OUT AND SMOKE A PACK AND RELAX.

    just post and stop poking your head in and trying to re-arrange the furniture.

    its rather hypocritical to have spent a year at GF spewing discontent about shackelford.....yet when others spew HERE....and it has nothing to do with me me me(KJ KJ KJ)
    he seems to feel left out.

    So what....for a minute things are revolving around singer...thats ok......next week or next month it will be someone else.

    I AGREE WITH BLACKHOLE.....we have grown men talking frankly and openly, and colorfully.I think MC can and does handle himself and doesnt need a little brother to tell others to lay off.

    MC has not shrinked away from me or anyone else. He is not the mentally frail type either drunk or sober.

    The site has survived my presence even though you predicted Armageddon. And it will do just fine with the addition of singer and alan.

  15. #15
    mickey to me is pure entertainment.....someone who has nothing but this forum and his stories of the past and fabrications of the present. True or not, he's fun to poke.

    KJ is desperately seeking acceptance and relevance, and he does that because it's very easy to tell he works very hard at making up his tale about being some young gunslinger bj pro at a time when only the cagiest of the best have even half a chance to succeed. Thus, the nonsense of being able to count two tables, and when called on that bs it grows exponentially into how the 2nd table count need not be accurate.

    I agree he should man up instead of always running to mommy & trying to stir the pot.

  16. #16
    Rob, it looks like some of your neighbors are moving out of the trailerhood in South Dakota.
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    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  17. #17
    Perfect! mickey wouldn't post stuff like that unless it's in response to one of my pokes. And when he takes a direct hit, he comes out swinging like a girl

  18. #18
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Perfect! mickey wouldn't post stuff like that unless it's in response to one of my pokes. And when he takes a direct hit, he comes out swinging like a girl
    Rob's summer home in South Dakota. At least he says it's his summer home. I have the sneaking suspicion he's living there year round. His daughter must have kicked him out of her house in Arizona for non-payment of rent. Rob has a history of that as the legal judgements against him in Arizona show. Hey, Rob. Cut the grass, will ya?
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    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  19. #19
    Originally Posted by LarryS View Post
    when I got to this site KJ threw a fit and demanded that Dan ban me or else this site would crumble.

    So I have been away for4 days and during that time KJ is now again complaining that over the last 4 days the site id crumbling.

    It seems that the argument at hand is occuring on a single thread or maybe 2 if you count this one. 2 friggin threads do not destroy a board. The topic of "wov" is clearly on the heading of the thread....and anyone not interested can skip over it,

    HE JUST NEEDS TO GO OUT AND SMOKE A PACK AND RELAX.

    just post and stop poking your head in and trying to re-arrange the furniture.

    its rather hypocritical to have spent a year at GF spewing discontent about shackelford.....yet when others spew HERE....and it has nothing to do with me me me(KJ KJ KJ)
    he seems to feel left out.

    So what....for a minute things are revolving around singer...thats ok......next week or next month it will be someone else.

    I AGREE WITH BLACKHOLE.....we have grown men talking frankly and openly, and colorfully.I think MC can and does handle himself and doesnt need a little brother to tell others to lay off.

    MC has not shrinked away from me or anyone else. He is not the mentally frail type either drunk or sober.

    The site has survived my presence even though you predicted Armageddon. And it will do just fine with the addition of singer and alan.
    Larry I am aware you want to take a swipe at me, every chance you get. And the "new" LarryS bides his time, looking for just such an opportunity, where you can attack without looking bad. You hold a grudge over things and always want to go back and get a "dig" in over past issue. That's ok. That's your thing (holding a grudge).

    But basically everything you just stated as your justification is untrue. When you came here, yes, I was against it, based on your previous participation on various sites. But only a few days into your participation here, when it looked like to desired to participate in a reasonable manner, I posted some sort of welcome and suggested that we give you a chance. I just don't have time to go back and look for it now as I am in the process of saying goodbye and burying my spouse and best friend of 20 years tonight and tomorrow morning. But please you go back and look and tell me that is not the way it went down.

    With Singers return, while I didn't sit reading his responses for the first few days as I was off the site, while some personal shit was going down, it had the same result. I was able to look at his posts over his first several days of returning and unlike you who showed he wanted to participate in a reasonable manner (if memory serves, you even made some sort of statement saying such), Singers first few days have clearly shown his intention is to be just what he was before, negative, attacking. No change. No attempt to contribute positively. Just attack and bring down those he thinks he is at war with, which is to say AP's that actually make money as he wishes he could.

    Now don't get me wrong, everyone doesn't have to agree with me, or be a fan, or support AP's or AP play. The same with any other topic. Disagreements are fine. Making your case and legitimate points is absolutely fine, as is reasonable debate and discussion. But if all anyone has is personal attacks not related to anything...calling someone a drunk, attacking my sexuality, I mean Jesus, did you see what Blackhole wrote about Redietz before he deleted it?

    I am against this site being that. That is basically what this site was last summer when I came and we slowly moved away from it. Dan Druff indicated he wanted the site to be more reasonable and took (small) steps to implement that. And now for whatever reason, Dan seems to have changed his mind and wants to go back to "gutterball". Singer has actually said, right here in this thread, that is what he enjoys and his prupose. Well I am against that, and I will voice that opinion to Dan. And if I can't convince Dan to not let this site turn into another Gamblers Glen with 3-5 people just going back and forth with vile personal attacks, then it is time for me to move on.

    I mean can you LarryS or anyone tell me why advantage players, playing winning, +EV games should not be a part of or able to participate on a site named "Vegas casino talk" without attacks of their personal lives, sexuality, health. Come on Larry...talk to me some more about adult discussions and who are the adults here.

  20. #20
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Perfect! mickey wouldn't post stuff like that unless it's in response to one of my pokes. And when he takes a direct hit, he comes out swinging like a girl
    Rob's summer home in South Dakota. At least he says it's his summer home. I have the sneaking suspicion he's living there year round. His daughter must have kicked him out of her house in Arizona for non-payment of rent. Rob has a history of that as the legal judgements against him in Arizona show. Hey, Rob. Cut the grass, will ya?
    ROFLMFAO!! that's some funny shit, advantage Mickey that will be hard to beat!!

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