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  1. #121
    Originally Posted by LarryS View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Larry, answer me this: I've never played craps. But why would any bettor upon seeing a dozen similar rolls in a row, be inclined to bet that it will happen on the next roll? I certainly wouldn't. Don't the people playing have their own betting choices in their heads, and know a past throw or throws of the dice has/have nothing to do with the next one or ones?
    did you ever see a craps table where a shooter was having a massively long roll ....and there is cheering, and before you know it the table is packed, with SRO waiting to join, hoping there is a space that opens(as if anyone would leave)......people pushing in to play even though as yu say "the last roll doesnt guarantee the next result"...yet this is the natural way gamblers behave.

    And gamblers watching this amazing result of 18 in a row, didnt reacvh for a single nickle to try to make some money
    Larry let me explain something to you since I don't think you have a clue about the 18 yos.

    First, the shooter was a young guy with his friend. I don't even think they had odds behind their pass line bets and neither of them bet on the yos.

    I don't make horn or craps bets after the come out roll. The point was established.

    Tell me, are you a "see a yo bet a yo" craps player? Do you bet the field? Do you make hop bets? I don't do any of those things.

    A lot of people say it couldn't happen because of the math but no one has ever said "but Alan I was there and it wasn't 18 yos in a row."

  2. #122
    Larry also raises the question of human nature at a craps table. Recently at Red Rock a shooter threw 5 yos in a row. The table was full. Guess how many players made a bet on eleven?

    Zero. Not a single player bet a single dollar that the next throw would be a yo.

  3. #123
    There are sick gamblers that are set in their ways.for example there may be "DONT" betters who will walk away from a hot table as they declare that they only bet the dont. But the more successful gambler has the ability to adapt on the fly and take what the prevailing conditions give him. The former type gambler is rare....is his own albatross . Most gamblers will take what is presented to them. If not in 5 rolls..
    then certainly in 10 or 12 rolls. ..especially if the risk/reward is low. On 2 rolls a nickel turns into 1k for me while you pat yourself on the back for not betting. I am not see a Yo bet a yo. But I am see 8 yos bet a yo...
    as most people would be.

  4. #124
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by Bill Yung View Post
    Didn't Mendelson make other seemingly far-fetched gambling claims? In particular, about having witnessed roulette dealers spin winning numbers at will. To Alan, DI means that someone could throw as many yo's as wanted; and versa? To him, all of these things happen whether he is physically present or not, and, so, he is there in some (non-)sense regardless.
    This one I will respond to. I was invited to a demonstration in which a casino dealer successfully targeted four adjacent "slots" (I don't know the correct name) on a roulette wheel on demand.

    Regarding Jason: it was five $4,000 royals in 24 hours and he has the W2Gs which he is able to show... if the price is right. Did he lose money? Yes, because he hit the royals at $1 VP and then moved up to $5 VP where he lost it. The cycle repeated over and over. Shit happens.

    How much to see the official W2Gs and we'll even show you at the casinos (Caesars and Gold Strike) so they can confirm they're legitimate.
    Alan remember, these guys relate these gambling stories to themselves. In other words, they in no way could live with themselves after blowing so much money back in thru the machines after a hot streak like that, because most of them struggle financially and want and need those $4000 winners. Because Jason has the wherewithal to handle such swings---that's something very foreign to them.

    I noticed they have no doubts that he lost it all, but at the same time they don't want to believe that he won it. Sound familiar?

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