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  1. #101
    Mickey thanks for making the article easier to read. I hope redietz sends you the index with his credit. I'd like to see how it's listed and how his credit appears. I'm interested I'm how his spec article was listed.

    That really is an accomplishment for a spec writer.

  2. #102
    Honestly, I don't know anyone who has submitted papers in a call for papers who refers to themselves as a "spec writer." You just never hear it. I'm not sure it would be appropriate anyway, if completed papers were submitted and vetted as opposed to abstracts.

    I also never heard my mentor, Bob Gannon (Adventure Editor for Popular Science), use the phrase "spec writer." He always referred to the process as "writing on spec." To civilians, this just means "writing on speculation." You submit a letter outlining what you plan to do and a chapter or snippet, then -- if the editor says give it a go -- you write the full piece without a contract for the work. Sometimes the work is accepted; sometimes not.

    "Writing something on spec" suggests that it's one aspect of the catalogue of what you're doing, which could be anything.

  3. #103
    Redietz, are you going to launch a dispute over "spec writer" vs. "writing on spec"?

    Don't bother. I surrender.

  4. #104
    No dispute. One phrase serves as a noun. The other serves as a verb. Two different things. I've never heard anyone refer to themselves as a "spec writer." I assume there must be reasons for that. But not being a "spec writer," I'm not sure what those would be.

  5. #105
    [QUOTE=redietz;67377]One phrase serves as a noun. The other serves as a verb. Two different things. /QUOTE]

    Is there a difference between someone who bets on sports, and a sports bettor?

  6. #106
    [QUOTE=coach belly;67405]
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    One phrase serves as a noun. The other serves as a verb. Two different things. /QUOTE]

    Is there a difference between someone who bets on sports, and a sports bettor?

    In terms of what's on the printed page, of course.

    "Someone who bets on sports" connotes that it's an activity an individual engages in, among many activities. "A sports bettor" connotes that it's a primary feature or attribute of the individual. There's a serious difference between the likely connotations of "someone who plays blackjack" and "a blackjack player." Now you can play the minutia game of arguing that "a sports bettor" or "a blackjack player" doesn't NECESSARILY have those likely connotations, but it's the writer's duty to profile his audience and anticipate how that audience will interpret what's on the printed page.

    And besides, it's not a completely accurate analogy (as if there is such a thing). Some people might interpret "spec writer" as someone hunkered down in his mother's basement, typing up myriad letters and chapters that will never see the light of day.

    Now Mr. Mendelson meant it as a compliment, and I certainly take it that way, so I salute him. I know people working on spec are taking 1 in 100 shots, if that, so scoring is a rarity. Getting a paper accepted with a non-academic as lead author was obviously a long shot. It had to be a good paper, or one with a couple of novel things to mention.

    Thanks for allowing me the opportunity to spell this out. Much appreciated.

  7. #107
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Now you can play the minutia game of arguing that "a sports bettor" or "a blackjack player" doesn't NECESSARILY have those likely connotations
    The minutia game is arguing that someone who writes on spec is not a spec writer, as someone who plays blackjack is not a blackjack player, as someone who plays golf is not a golfer, etc, based on the possible scenarios that might be imagined by some random ditz.

    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    It had to be a good paper, or one with a couple of novel things to mention.
    Or they could have accepted everything that was submitted...how many submitted papers were rejected?

  8. #108
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Now you can play the minutia game of arguing that "a sports bettor" or "a blackjack player" doesn't NECESSARILY have those likely connotations
    The minutia game is arguing that someone who writes on spec is not a spec writer, as someone who plays blackjack is not a blackjack player, as someone who plays golf is not a golfer, etc, based on the possible scenarios that might be imagined by some random ditz.

    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    It had to be a good paper, or one with a couple of novel things to mention.
    Or they could have accepted everything that was submitted...how many submitted papers were rejected?

    0ff the top of my head, I'm sure they accepted 98% of all papers. Since I submitted 187, as any good "spec writer" would do, I was somewhat disappointed they didn't allow me to present at least two. They may have seen through my ruse of putting different titles on the same paper 187 times.

  9. #109
    2018 Football Update:

    I accepted an invitation to the 2018 Wise Guys Contest. Anyone wanting to follow along can check www.vegaswiseguys.com during the football season.

    Last season, I finished in a tie for third. It came down to the college national title game. Had Alabama covered, I would have been the Wise Guys champ. It was very disappointing. I won eleven consecutive games during the season, but my point accumulation for Best Bets just wasn't good enough. It's a difficult contest for me, given that I wager minimally on the NFL and bowl games and the contest is 18 weeks in length, but I will give it a go.

  10. #110
    Where's the 2018 info? That link goes to 2016 with the 2015 winners.

    If you want any tips I don't charge.

  11. #111
    Obviously, August 16th is not "during the football season." For those who wish to inquire today regarding the 2018 Wise Guys Contest or last season's results, Playbook's number is 1-800-752-9266. Their home page is www.Playbook.com.

  12. #112
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Where's the 2018 info? That link goes to 2016 with the 2015 winners.

    If you want any tips I don't charge.
    Great! Thanks, Rob. Everyone should get in on this. We'll clean up betting the opposite of what Rob bets.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  13. #113
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    No, we hire OJ only when tooling around LA, since he knows the local highways. Here's the local ride.

    Thomas Magnum, eat your heart out.
    Nice Picture by the way!
    LOL was the car Magnums? - or -
    Did Robin Masters loan it out to him while he resided on/in the fictional beach front estate on the island of Oahu, Hawaii!?
    They have been running Magnum on GetTV so I have been watching at times.

    Either way that picture looks great.
    It is amazing how you don't give a F... You put the plate right in the picture!!
    Personalized to Boot! You are like... You'll never take me alive Copper!

    My uncle always wants us to get something like that.
    I tell him the maintenance alone would drive me up the wall.
    I couldn't handle getting a scratch on it.
    I don't want to wash it or pay someone to wash it and have to trust them.
    When he gives me strife I give him a few bricks of hundos and let him keep counting.

    I am not knocking it though. Just not for me. Attracts too much unwanted attention in my mind.
    I decided on a vehicle that I can drive over mountains and through the desert.
    In case I need to Bug Out or the next Civil War starts.
    Not too bad. I'd like to see a Liberal vs. Conservative all out war... winner take all! LOL

    Oddly enough you and I could pass for brothers.
    We did grow up in the same area of PA so there is that.
    Also I think we have some of the same heritage.
    You have the same pissed off look when someone takes my picture.
    Sort of like... Hurry the F Up, we got things to do!
    I don't have many. I live in the present. I don't need pictures lol.
    I also think I am not photogenic and when I record my voice it doesn't sound like me to me.

    Here is a Funny for all you Science/Math Geeks...
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    Last edited by monet; 08-22-2018 at 04:33 AM.

  14. #114
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    No, we hire OJ only when tooling around LA, since he knows the local highways. Here's the local ride.

    Thomas Magnum, eat your heart out.
    Nice Picture by the way!
    LOL was the car Magnums? - or -
    Did Robin Masters loan it out to him while he resided on/in the fictional beach front estate on the island of Oahu, Hawaii!?
    They have been running Magnum on GetTV so I have been watching at times.

    Either way that picture looks great.
    It is amazing how you don't give a F... You put the plate right in the picture!!
    Personalized to Boot! You are like... You'll never take me alive Copper!

    My uncle always wants us to get something like that.
    I tell him the maintenance alone would drive me up the wall.
    I couldn't handle getting a scratch on it.
    I don't want to wash it or pay someone to wash it and have to trust them.
    When he gives me strife I give him a few bricks of hundos and let him keep counting.

    I am not knocking it though. Just not for me. Attracts too much unwanted attention in my mind.
    I decided on a vehicle that I can drive over mountains and through the desert.
    In case I need to Bug Out or the next Civil War starts.
    Not too bad. I'd like to see a Liberal vs. Conservative all out war... winner take all! LOL

    Oddly enough you and I could pass for brothers.
    We did grow up in the same area of PA so there is that.
    Also I think we have some of the same heritage.
    You have the same pissed off look when someone takes my picture.
    Sort of like... Hurry the F Up, we got things to do!
    I don't have many. I live in the present. I don't need pictures lol.
    I also think I am not photogenic and when I record my voice it doesn't sound like me to me.

    Here is a Funny for all you Science/Math Geeks...
    Monet,

    I cannot take credit for ownership of this beauty. This is GaryT's car (he's featured earlier in the thread). I was living at his place chunks of the year for the last three years -- that's why the Thomas Magnum reference. I was "borrowing" like Thomas Magnum would "borrow" the Ferrari in the television show. At one point, GaryT had a Ferrari, a Porsche, the Lambo, and a couple of others, but he scaled back upon retirement. He's not giving this one up, though. People have used this car in a couple of national ads.

    The only reason I ran a photo (well, two reasons) is that (1) I'm getting old and don't care who knows what I did and (2) Argentino/Singer was claiming I wasn't a real person. This photo matches bio photos in Who's Who in Sports Gambling (1984) and some magazine articles, so there's no question I'm me.

  15. #115
    Just a bump in case The Boz didn't catch the old "Tipsters or Gypsters?" college football rankings or the S.F.Chronicle article regarding Mike McCusker, the author and publisher. Also, in a couple of discussions of possible rebates for whale sports bettors down the road, notice I allude to the "Don Johnson in AC" rebate scenario to frame the concept.

    Boz, if you haven't seen this, it's old stuff, but I think you might appreciate it in a way few would.

  16. #116
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Just a bump in case The Boz didn't catch the old "Tipsters or Gypsters?" college football rankings

  17. #117
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post

    Nice little film bite. Fits Rob Singer to a tee!
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  18. #118
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post

    Nice little film bite. Fits Rob Singer to a tee!
    Fits you too, Nancy...to a tee!

  19. #119
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post

    Nice little film bite. Fits Rob Singer to a tee!
    Fits you too, Nancy...to a tee!
    Good evening, Petunia. Looks like you and Rob are having a little fun, between sex, on the internet today. Is it true what Rob says? That you are a moaner?
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  20. #120
    As mentioned earlier this thread, my partners in Pennsylvania and New York reported that New Jersey seemed well equipped, both in terms of trained personnel and physical plant, to open successful sports books this season. They did not think that Delaware was adequately staffed or prepared. A research report out of New Jersey now projects that New Jersey should pass Nevada in sports book volume as early as 2021, which is startling. This is undoubtedly due to New York dragging its feet, and these projections should, I think, put the fire under New York's derrieres to get things done quickly.

    In any event, however, the question now is how will Nevada respond, if at all? Will we someday soon see -105s for everyone? Will we see a return to 1980-style comps and catering to sports players? Or will this lead to Nevada sports books simply giving up in terms of trying to compete?

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