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  1. #21
    No, we hire OJ only when tooling around LA, since he knows the local highways. Here's the local ride.

    Thomas Magnum, eat your heart out.
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  2. #22
    How much do those Lamborghini's go for? Are they as expensive as Hellcat's?
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  3. #23
    Italian's make nice cars, even if they're impractical.

  4. #24
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Italian's make nice cars, even if they're impractical.
    How about armies, Rob. How good are the Italians at that?
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  5. #25
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    How much do those Lamborghini's go for? Are they as expensive as Hellcat's?
    This particular car was 1 of 170. Twenty-some are in the US. It's been customized, as a Lamborghini aficionado could probably tell by this photo. New, it went for roughly 240. The braking is phenomenal, partly the result of a 30K custom brake job.

  6. #26
    Scouting Numbers Downtown

    I checked futures numbers downtown at William Hill's flagship book, located in The Plaza. I also checked the Golden Nugget.

    Eventually, I made my way to my favorite section of Fremont, featuring the Heart Attack Grill on the north side and Don't Tell Mama on the south. Technically, the Heart Attack Grill can be considered an advantage play since anyone weighing more than 350 pounds eats free. I believe they have recently tightened the comps, however, as originally everything was free. Now you must pay for your beverage(s) and dessert(s) with just the entrée comped. If you want to be entertained for 30 minutes in a morbidly Monty Python-esque way, please click www.heartattackgrill.com and watch the video.


    Retro Resonance: I first ate at the Heart Attack Grill five or six years ago. I had absolutely no idea what the place was about and was completely baffled when the hostess handed me a hospital gown prior to seating. When a very, very large woman ascended the podium in the middle of the dining room and was met with an enthusiastic round of applause from the diners and staff, I didn't really understand that the clapping and cheers were because she had stepped on the scale and qualified for a free meal.
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  7. #27
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Thomas Magnum, eat your heart out.
    Hey, I went out with a girl who claimed to have gone out with him. I believed her, but that would have made her too young for him.
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  8. #28
    Originally Posted by Bill Yung View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Thomas Magnum, eat your heart out.
    Hey, I went out with a girl who claimed to have gone out with him. I believed her, but that would have made her too young for him.
    There will be a Magnum reboot, from what I understand, sometime next television season.

  9. #29
    Hey, I was looking forward to an interesting thread. lets go with some content Dietz. WTF
    Take off that stupid mask you big baby.

  10. #30
    It's been fifteen days. How about some trip reports or something. I'm stuck living vi.... vi... vi.... I can't spell vicariously... anyways lets have some content.
    Take off that stupid mask you big baby.

  11. #31
    The report is actually on about a 30-day delay, so please bear with me.

  12. #32
    Binion's


    I stopped briefly at Binion's, primarily for nostalgic purposes, but also to see if I was still in their players' card data base. I was not, so I signed up and made about $20 playing off various free play sign-up options.

    Binion's, as most know, was the origin point for the WSOP. Back in the 80's, it was a vibrant locale with action of all kinds. It was indeed the kind of place where one could get a "good gamble." Now it's pretty much as presented in the film, "Last Vegas." Most of this post belongs under "retro," so let's get right to it.


    Retro Resonance: My very first meal in Las Vegas, ever, was in Binion's coffee shop. On recommendation of the Las Vegas Advisor (then just the print version, of course), I ordered the two-dollar steak special. I could not have chosen a more iconic initial meal.

    The WSOP started at Binion's, and in the early 80's I watched some of the final table action. I had read Amarillo Slim's "Play Poker to Win," so I wanted to see what this clash of greats looked like live. Bleachers had been set up back in the poker section. I was far enough away that I really couldn't tell anything about what was happening. Famous people sat around a table, chips were moved, and on occasion someone got up and left. That was the extent of what I could see. It was, however, historic, and I'm glad I got a peek.

    When the Mirage opened and became the highest volume Las Vegas sports book, Binion's (believe it or not) was the second. People from all over the country stayed at Binion's during the football season, laying off action from their entrepreneurial sources in New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, and elsewhere. Posted limits were high, and it was understood that unposted limits were much higher. The coffee shop often looked like a staging area for a Guys and Dolls production. It was a great and classic Las Vegas venue.
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  13. #33
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post


    I stopped briefly at Binion's, primarily for nostalgic purposes, but also to see if I was still in their players' card data base. I was not, so I signed up and made about $20 playing off various free play sign-up options.
    NEWB!

  14. #34
    A major point of discussion for me with various people around the country has been, obviously, the recent legalization of sports betting on a state-by-state basis. This finally happened just a week ago. I have been waiting to see if any caveats against people with the potential to exploit the system would be introduced. The first shiver of possibilities in that direction occurred a couple of days ago when Roger Goodell listed some recommendations from the NFL that included a request to ban "bad actors." Now I don't understand much of anything legally, so my question is whether someone convicted of something (say, bookmaking) will now be excluded from working in the state bookmaking systems or, possibly, could someone convicted of something previously illegal (say, bookmaking) be banned from betting in the state-sponsored systems. I tried to find any parallel situations historically with the SEC (Securities and Exchange, not Southeastern Conference), which has a gazillion "bad actor" rules, but I couldn't make heads or tails of it.

    The closest situation I could find was "If you have a misdemeanor or felony conviction for selling or possession of weed, does that mean you cannot sell weed in legal stores?"

    Interesting questions. And many, many more to come.

  15. #35
    I was in San Diego last weekend and heard that a city in California, I think SF, was exploring ways of expunging all marijuana possession convictions.

    It's a Brave New World.
    What, Me Worry?

  16. #36
    Very interesting thread, redeitz. Keep it up.

    I deleted a few trolling messages here.

    Please do NOT troll this thread, or you might have your posting privileges revoked.
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  17. #37
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Very interesting thread, redeitz. Keep it up.

    I deleted a few trolling messages here.

    Please do NOT troll this thread, or you might have your posting privileges revoked.
    I quit posting and putting pictures in the road pic thread because of Singer trolling. I won't post in it again until the trolling posts are removed and Singer is banned from the thread. Please take all of the trolling posts out of the thread including mine.
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 05-24-2018 at 03:42 AM.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  18. #38
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Very interesting thread, redeitz. Keep it up.

    I deleted a few trolling messages here.

    Please do NOT troll this thread, or you might have your posting privileges revoked.
    I quit posting and putting pictures in the road pic thread because of Singer trolling. I won't post in it again until the trolling posts are removed and Singer is banned from the thread. Please take all of the trolling posts out of the thread including mine.
    Done
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  19. #39
    Circus-Circus -- Were These Retro Advantage Plays?


    If anyone wonders where Stephen King received inspiration for Pennywise, look no further than Circus-Circus.

    I stopped in Circus-Circus on my futures scouting tour, both because it was easy MGM numbers access and to jolt old memories. The first time I ever walked through Circus-Circus, I'd been both amused and horrified that someone might have slipped a tab or two of LSD in my morning coffee. Hunter Thompson wrote "The Circus-Circus is what the whole hep world would be doing Saturday night if the Nazis had won the war." That sounds about right. Circus-Circus takes some getting used to.

    I don't usually think of myself as an "advantage player," but when I recall the way I used the Circus-Circus sports book in the 80's and 90's, it was probably more about advantage play than handicapping.


    Retro Resonance: There were three solid reasons to bet at Circus-Circus in the 80's and 90's.

    (1) Comps. For a year or two, Circus-Circus gave a dollar in comps for every $125 wagered, which was easily the best comp rate in the city for sports. They then adjusted to a dollar in comps for every $200-$250 wagered, which put them in the running with then-LV-Hilton/now-Westgate for the most generous comps.

    (2) Weather and the Stardust angle. Back then, the venerable action-packed Stardust did not always move their numbers because everyone else did. They trusted their numbers, and they waited for actual money to move their lines. This often resulted in the Stardust being on a kind of time delay compared to other casinos. Whether it was this time lag or just that the Stardust was too damn swamped on Saturdays to closely monitor weather, I don't know, but their totals were always late to move when severe weather was an issue. The sports book manager at Circus-Circus, next door, was more than happy to read me the latest weather ticker update, knowing I would try to exploit the Stardust. I took a fair number of shots at totals middles on game day based on this angle.

    (3) Monday Night Football. After a losing Saturday/Sunday, nothing could bring on a nasty headache faster than a trek from the strip entrance of Circus-Circus, past all of the screaming children, strollers whacking your ankles, and the blaring brutality of the color scheme, to the Monday Night Football party in the rear building on the second floor. It was, however, worth it. The MNF drawings were generous, and the place was rarely packed. Every $20 in wagers earned a drawing ticket, and I wasn't shy about breaking any size bet into $20 increments. In the span of a couple of years, I won the top prize ($250, I think) twice, $100 a half dozen times, a couple of dinners-for-two at the steakhouse, more meals at their new Mexican restaurant, some nice logo shirts, and other clothing.


    Although I eschew the label "AP," it's pretty clear that all of these tactics were more about AP'ing than sports betting per se.

    At some point in time, I need to revisit the Circus-Circus buffet, which I considered the second worst in Las Vegas. Their buffet made the Westward Ho hot dogs seem like gourmet meals. But I didn't try it this trip. Too much to do to risk food poisoning.
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  20. #40
    Las Vegas Futures Scouting -- Decisions

    I wanted to summarize what we did before adding any further LV details. The original reason for scouting in April was that the Las Vegas sports books had begun offering football futures on earlier and earlier dates. We felt it was therefore important to get a general sense of the numbers and also to see if there were any "god-gotta-take-it" opportunities.

    There were no "god-gotta-take-its."

    Basically, we were looking at three NFL longshots. The odds were reasonable, but when I examined the schedules carefully, there were three negatives:

    1) The schedules were not particularly easy.
    2) One of the three teams had an international game as a "home" game.
    3) The teams played each other, and if I was correct about these teams being half-decent, then that made the schedules even harder.

    So we did nothing with the NFL. We'll revisit these three teams in August and figure things out. Had the odds been longer, I probably would have teased out the best of the three and committed. That wasn't the case, so we passed.

    April is pretty early in the process to invest in college football futures. But I had to take a look in case something leaped out at me. I had already reviewed some teams' schedules, and I was looking for a couple of specific things. No "god-gotta-take-its" in college, but there was one outlier number that got my attention. I felt like it would probably not improve. The team in question was unlikely to make the four-team playoff, but if things broke our way, it would at least be in the conversation. The odds were long enough that it was worth a dabble. The ticket writer rolled his eyes, but I'd have rolled my eyes, too.

    That single play was the sum total of all sports gambling on this trip.

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