Vegas hotel/restaurant workers may strike on June 1

[Dan Druff]

http://q13fox.com/2018/05/09/50000-v...over-contract/

On May 22, they will vote whether or not to strike, which would take place as soon as June 1 if approved.

This is the Culinary Union, which covers restaurant workers, housekeepers, and a lot of other hotel staff. It does NOT cover casino employees.

If this strike were to take place, this could be a problem for those attending the World Series of Poker The WSOP itself could still operate, but restaurants on properties may be closed or crippled, and hotel operations will also suffer immensely. The WSOP begins on May 30.

[Rob.Singer]

Neither side wants to or is equipped for a strike like this. Too much to lose for everyone at a time when things are on the upswing. In typical union bullying fashion, they threaten this and that but will settle for a few concessions and it'll all be over. The "panic button" request by housekeepers is foolish. Just let them conceal carry.

[Alan Mendelson]

The panic button idea is really a good idea. We've all seem those TV commercials for Life Alert and a similar system would be workable... at a cost.

The sad thing would be having to spend thar money just in case there's another shooter.

But what about training and monitoring? When do you push the button? Does a woman housekeeper push the button if a man opens the door nude and says change my sheets now?

You always want guns limited inside a casino or totally blocked. Casinos never want to risk a guest getting hurt. Back in the day when only robberies were feared the casino's attitude was take the money the police will catch them later.

It's unlikely Caesars or MGM will be struck. They'll "buy" a new contract but don't be surprised if the panic button system catches on over the next year or two.

[Rob.Singer]

Strategic gun-carry is the ONLY answer to school shootings and has already proven to be a multiple life saver in a recent incident. It would do the same inside casino hotels....and casino guests' lives are far less important than children's.

[Bill Yung]

All we really know is that were there no guns, or people didn't want to use them, there would be no shootings. All bets are off the instant we put more guns into the mix.

[pepe]

Banning guns is not going to make them magically not exist.

[Bill Yung]

That's a symptom of the problem, in which everyone already has a gun, more than of the solution. The idea is to start to be able to identify and confirm who the criminals are before they do something stupid.

[pepe]

how about we identify who the criminals are before they are born

[tableplay]

how about we identify who the criminals are before they are born

Good one. LMFAO

[Bill Yung]

The ones who have guns, silly. People don't make criminal careers of terrorism, or the other crimes of on-the-spot or short-lived impulses or conversions. Education and fair play are important, too.

[pepe]

how about we identify who the criminals are before they are born

Good one. LMFAO

in all serious, science is discovering more and more that free will is a myth and behavior is largely genetically driven.

imagine getting rid of those with the genes for criminality before they leave the womb.

[tableplay]

how about we identify who the criminals are before they are born

Good one. LMFAO

in all serious, science is discovering more and more that free will is a myth and behavior is largely genetically driven.

imagine getting rid of those with the genes for criminality before they leave the womb.

Were such a policy implemented, Vegas Casino Talk would have little traffic.

[Bill Yung]

... in all serious, science is discovering more and more that free will is a myth and behavior is largely genetically driven.

Are you not falling into the same simplistic reasoning as MC? That nothingness or emptiness is freedom or free will, opposed to matter or stuff being bound. Sometimes, it's better to be caught up in something than to be on the outside, and looking in. Will is another sort of physical or mental process, and so involves both the physical/mental stuff, and the space/time in which it circulates, neither of which is mutually exclusive of the other here.

In any event, for every bit of determinism of say and do, I think that there is a corresponding bit in the free sense, with one "beneath" the other. The greater question is where the two exactly meet. It's a lot harder to define even just the nothingness, and madness or insanity than we think. The reason there are so few truly-mad geniuses when it's all put together.

[Dan Druff]

Let's get back on track here.

The strike vote was almost unanimous. 99% voted to strike, 1% voted not to. Seriously.

But before you panic, it's not all that likely a labor stoppage will take place.

According to sources of mine, this is just a formality to scare casinos into giving concessions.

So now the Culinary Union is in "negotiation mode", where casinos are put on notice that the workers will strike on June 1 unless negotiations begin.

Of course, the casinos don't want this to happen, so they will enter negotiations.

The strike also allows the union to get benefits retroactive to June 1 if they delay striking and a new agreement is reached after that.

A strike will only occur if the casinos dig their heels in and deny the union concessions which they consider essential. But I think an agreement of some kind will be reached, from what I'm hearing.

[mickeycrimm]

Does a woman housekeeper push the button if a man opens the door nude and says change my sheets now?.

Have you done it yet or are you still just thinking about it?

[redietz]

Let's get back on track here.

The strike vote was almost unanimous. 99% voted to strike, 1% voted not to. Seriously.

But before you panic, it's not all that likely a labor stoppage will take place.

According to sources of mine, this is just a formality to scare casinos into giving concessions.

So now the Culinary Union is in "negotiation mode", where casinos are put on notice that the workers will strike on June 1 unless negotiations begin.

Of course, the casinos don't want this to happen, so they will enter negotiations.

The strike also allows the union to get benefits retroactive to June 1 if they delay striking and a new agreement is reached after that.

A strike will only occur if the casinos dig their heels in and deny the union concessions which they consider essential. But I think an agreement of some kind will be reached, from what I'm hearing.

I don't think a strike makes much sense from a management perspective. Las Vegas took a 5-10% hit during the aftermath of the Mandalay shooting. Vehicle traffic from California is still down, although it's hard to tell if that's from Mandalay or parking fees. I have to think any kind of strike would immediately affect California traffic further because those folks aren't visiting for the novelty of LV. They're coming for the food, service, and other amenities. If you're going to get a better contract with the threat of a strike, this would seem to me to be an ideal time.

[quahaug]

Thanks to Trump The Great the economy is really moving and I'm sure Vegas is moving right along with it so it's time to take care of the service workers with a big fat raise.

[quahaug]

Does a woman housekeeper push the button if a man opens the door nude and says change my sheets now?.

Have you done it yet or are you still just thinking about it?

He's showing off his avocado.

[Alan Mendelson]

I was president of my NABET local in NYC in the 70s and I've been in AFTRA since 1972 (now SAG-AFTRA) and there are always strike votes at contract time... but there are always settlements.

I don't know the stats but I'd guess fewer than 1% of unions ever call a strike. That's not a sign of union weakness but it is a sign that management doesn't want a strike either.

See https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/...ul-weapon/amp/

[monet]

Let's get back on track here.

The strike vote was almost unanimous. 99% voted to strike, 1% voted not to. Seriously.

But before you panic, it's not all that likely a labor stoppage will take place.

According to sources of mine, this is just a formality to scare casinos into giving concessions.

So now the Culinary Union is in "negotiation mode", where casinos are put on notice that the workers will strike on June 1 unless negotiations begin.

Of course, the casinos don't want this to happen, so they will enter negotiations.

The strike also allows the union to get benefits retroactive to June 1 if they delay striking and a new agreement is reached after that.

A strike will only occur if the casinos dig their heels in and deny the union concessions which they consider essential. But I think an agreement of some kind will be reached, from what I'm hearing.

Why the F should anyone get back on track on any thread?? I made a Thread about the Knights and Hockey and they have over 4 pages of I don't know what the F they are talking about... it certainly isn't hockey. Now you make rules for Rob Singer and tell the rest of the forum to F Off and don't even stick to the rules you made for Singer but you want us all to get back on Track??? It appears to me that you and the Forum is off the Track and Rails and will never get back on it. Don't you have some cheating, teaming Poker Players to catch and expose?? Get Back on Track... LOL... what a F'ing Joke!