monet has let the building?

[MisterV]

And RSC, what was wrong with a wedding given by Caesars Palace? Ya know, it wasn't the first wedding for either of us, and neither of us wanted a formal wedding, so we accepted what Caesars offered including the private table, the dinner party that followed, the Rabbi, the photographer and the videographer. It sure beat getting married in the Rabbi's study or at home in the living room.

Nothing wrong with it at all.

Unusual, certainly, but hey, why not?

[Alan Mendelson]

Las Vegas Norm wrote about it in the RJ and my good buddy Robin Leach loved it and made it the lead in his column. It beat out some celebrity wedding.

[Bill Yung]

I also had a hard time believing that monet had a stable of card holders at local casinos who built up big free play amounts and then turned over their cards to monet.

He wrote that his wife had a large group of non-playing acquaintances that he recruited to get players cards. They turned the cards over to him, and he played on their cards and built up the freeplay.

Either that or he bankrolled their play.

In a nutshell, I think that comes down to knowing how the casinos do their calculations, on the one hand, and how the machines, tables, etc, spill the beans, on the other. They can't precisely tailor their rewards and play to specific players. But, they are getting better and better, from the casino perspective; and, likely, already have variables in place to describe what most of the "AP's" are doing. Some programer is likely having fun in his head with calling one variable KJ, and another MC.

[Bill Yung]

Las Vegas Norm wrote about it in the RJ and my good buddy Robin Leach loved it and made it the lead in his column. It beat out some celebrity wedding.

We kid you about it, Alan, but it is inspirational too, in a way.

[Alan Mendelson]

If that's the case he had less of an AP play than I thought. We all know that it takes a lot of coin-in or table play to build up free play levels. Yes, even with those multiplier days the locals casinos offer. It's all BS... and that's all it has ever been.

You wouldn't know what the hell an advantage play is, loser. It's all bullshit to you because you don't have the smarts for it. Just another dummass that thinks he knows. You don't know jackall about it, dunce.

You just have to do the basic math. Fairy dust and EV just don't add up. Either you have a real profit or you don't.

I guess I'm the only truthful one here who admits that free play is always less than the expected return of the game you play. Of course the APs "always" seem to get more free play. I guess if you can include EV in your accounting anything is possible. LOL

[RS__]

If that's the case he had less of an AP play than I thought. We all know that it takes a lot of coin-in or table play to build up free play levels. Yes, even with those multiplier days the locals casinos offer. It's all BS... and that's all it has ever been.

Strong rebuttal.

[RSC]

And RSC, what was wrong with a wedding given by Caesars Palace? Ya know, it wasn't the first wedding for either of us, and neither of us wanted a formal wedding, so we accepted what Caesars offered including the private table, the dinner party that followed, the Rabbi, the photographer and the videographer. It sure beat getting married in the Rabbi's study or at home in the living room.

And I bet it won’t be the last for either of you.

What’s wrong with it? It screams degenerate for one thing. I can just imagine the cringes when you pull out the wedding photo album to show friends. No doubt they are polite though.

Most of all I just feel sorry for the poor girl who had to be put through the ordeal.

[RSC]

If that's the case he had less of an AP play than I thought. We all know that it takes a lot of coin-in or table play to build up free play levels. Yes, even with those multiplier days the locals casinos offer. It's all BS... and that's all it has ever been.

You wouldn't know what the hell an advantage play is, loser. It's all bullshit to you because you don't have the smarts for it. Just another dummass that thinks he knows. You don't know jackall about it, dunce.

You just have to do the basic math. Fairy dust and EV just don't add up. Either you have a real profit or you don't.

I guess I'm the only truthful one here who admits that free play is always less than the expected return of the game you play. Of course the APs "always" seem to get more free play. I guess if you can include EV in your accounting anything is possible. LOL

Why does the return from the free play have to be less than the expected loss on the play that generated it? It’s called a loss leader doofus. It helps drag the ploppies into the venue so they lose more.

[Alan Mendelson]

RSC I don't know what your problem is but the wedding was a blast. For everyone. Trying to twist a fun wedding into some kind of indictment makes me wonder about you...not that your screen name doesn't tell me more than I need to know.

[RSC]

RSC I don't know what your problem is but the wedding was a blast. For everyone. Trying to twist a fun wedding into some kind of indictment makes me wonder about you...not that your screen name doesn't tell me more than I need to know.

I’m sure it was a blast......once the festivities moved away from the craps table. I’m sure people were relieved to move on to more normal things instead of reminiscing about the time you saw 18 yos in a row (lol). Go poll 100 random people in the street and see what they think about the idea. You’ll find most normal people will share my opinion that it’s just sad.

[MisterV]

Perhaps marrying at a craps table would raise eyebrows in certain parts of the country, but hey he was in Las Vegas, the land of drive up wedding chapels and getting married by Elvis.

[Alan Mendelson]

You wouldn't know what the hell an advantage play is, loser. It's all bullshit to you because you don't have the smarts for it. Just another dummass that thinks he knows. You don't know jackall about it, dunce.

You just have to do the basic math. Fairy dust and EV just don't add up. Either you have a real profit or you don't.

I guess I'm the only truthful one here who admits that free play is always less than the expected return of the game you play. Of course the APs "always" seem to get more free play. I guess if you can include EV in your accounting anything is possible. LOL

Why does the return from the free play have to be less than the expected loss on the play that generated it? It’s called a loss leader doofus. It helps drag the ploppies into the venue so they lose more.

There you go again mickeycrimm living in your dream world. Let me be blunt: it doesn't happen.

What monet failed to admit is that free play offers don't show up in your mailbox until after two months of play. And if you think Boyd or Stations are giving away the store just phone them and ask them what their free play formula is.

[Alan Mendelson]

RSC I don't know what your problem is but the wedding was a blast. For everyone. Trying to twist a fun wedding into some kind of indictment makes me wonder about you...not that your screen name doesn't tell me more than I need to know.

I’m sure it was a blast......once the festivities moved away from the craps table. I’m sure people were relieved to move on to more normal things instead of reminiscing about the time you saw 18 yos in a row (lol). Go poll 100 random people in the street and see what they think about the idea. You’ll find most normal people will share my opinion that it’s just sad.

You're sad. Of all the battles you could pick....

[RSC]

Perhaps marrying at a craps table would raise eyebrows in certain parts of the country, but hey he was in Las Vegas, the land of drive up wedding chapels and getting married by Elvis.

What percentage of the 30-odd million people who visit Vegas each year even consider getting married there, let alone in some quirky ceremony? Very few. Fact is even people in Vegas would mostly think it’s a loser idea.

[Keystone]

RSC I don't know what your problem is but the wedding was a blast. For everyone. Trying to twist a fun wedding into some kind of indictment makes me wonder about you...not that your screen name doesn't tell me more than I need to know.

When you`re on wedding # 4 or 5 I guess it really wouldn`t matter

[MaxPen]

Perhaps marrying at a craps table would raise eyebrows in certain parts of the country, but hey he was in Las Vegas, the land of drive up wedding chapels and getting married by Elvis.

What percentage of the 30-odd million people who visit Vegas each year even consider getting married there, let alone in some quirky ceremony? Very few. Fact is even people in Vegas would mostly think it’s a loser idea.

Actually a shit ton. Even with declining numbers there are still 80-90,000 weddings per year. That is slightly more than 3.5% of the weddings in the entire country. There are about 2.3 million weddings in the whole US every year.

[Alan Mendelson]

I don't know which is weirder: someone who posts using the name Rob Singers Clitoris or some of these weddings:

http://www.weirdworm.com/10-of-the-w...o-get-married/

[mickeycrimm]

If that's the case he had less of an AP play than I thought. We all know that it takes a lot of coin-in or table play to build up free play levels. Yes, even with those multiplier days the locals casinos offer. It's all BS... and that's all it has ever been.

You wouldn't know what the hell an advantage play is, loser. It's all bullshit to you because you don't have the smarts for it. Just another dummass that thinks he knows. You don't know jackall about it, dunce.

You just have to do the basic math. Fairy dust and EV just don't add up. Either you have a real profit or you don't.

I guess I'm the only truthful one here who admits that free play is always less than the expected return of the game you play. Of course the APs "always" seem to get more free play. I guess if you can include EV in your accounting anything is possible. LOL

I'm the professional gambler. You're the idiot compulsive degenerate gambler. I'll run circles around you with the gambling math, donkey. You can't do any. The freeplay is worth whatever you run it on. You run it on sucker games so sure it's not worth 100% to you.

My freeplay is worth 100% of it's value because I know how to run it. Some casinos are starting to get hip to running freeplay on the vulturable games and disqualifying those machines. Just a very small minority of them for now. I'm sure it will get worse in the future. I don't have to download all the freeplay at once. I download bits of it at a time on plays I have a 20% to 30% advantage.

I get every frickin' penny of freeplay they give me because I know how to run it. YOU DON'T!!!

[Alan Mendelson]

Now mickeycrimm says free play is worth 100% to him because he knows how to run it.

Congratulations mickeycrimm. You win. Please don't bother with me anymore.

[Rob.Singer]

More total bs mickey. No one ever gets 100% or more on every free play offer. Even a machine that theoretically pays out 125% wouldn't come near to handing out guaranteed percentages of 100% and up every time. The way you're claiming this, you're actually & unwittingly giving credence to short term play, which you also claim doesn't exist.

Quit while you're behind. And it's funny watching an uneducated idiot dropout like you pretending to know how to analyze anything using math.

Wise up.