Fake Nathan the troll

[MaxPen]

Thank you Monet, for your customary warm welcome. If my being here has pissed you off just a little bit, then my day hasn't been totally wasted.

Seems you are pretty much a troll yourself then.

[AxelWolf]

Thank you Monet, for your customary warm welcome. If my being here has pissed you off just a little bit, then my day hasn't been totally wasted.

Seems you are pretty much a troll yourself then.

Why all the hate for OnceDear? I have yet to see him engage in anything out of line.

Do we automatically just dislike people because they are Mods? Not too log ago he was blue just like me and you.

At least hate him because he isn't an American.

[MaxPen]

Thank you Monet, for your customary warm welcome. If my being here has pissed you off just a little bit, then my day hasn't been totally wasted.

Seems you are pretty much a troll yourself then.

Why all the hate for OnceDear? I have yet to see him engage in anything out of line.

Do we automatically just dislike people because they are Mods? Not too log ago he was blue just like me and you.

At least hate him because he isn't an American.

He's over here trolling because he doesn't have the balls to do his job over there. Way to condescending for my taste. Typical Brit.��

[AxelWolf]

Seems you are pretty much a troll yourself then.

Why all the hate for OnceDear? I have yet to see him engage in anything out of line.

Do we automatically just dislike people because they are Mods? Not too log ago he was blue just like me and you.

At least hate him because he isn't an American.

He's over here trolling because he doesn't have the balls to do his job over there. Way to condescending for my taste. Typical Brit.��

I disagree. He has given her pleanty of shit over on WOV.

Aside from the Typical Brit. Just admit you are wrong and move on.

p.s. You record on spotting trolls is very weak.

Easiest bet I ever won (-;

[monet]

He's over here trolling because he doesn't have the balls to do his job over there. Way to condescending for my taste. Typical Brit.

I must of missed something... I thought Once Dear was a woman... either way OD likes to kiss some serious Wizard Balls. Perhaps OD spreads around the Fairy Dust as well. That doesn't mean OD is a Homo it just means that he/she is a Fairy because as the Tattletale/MendleBread told us... Fairy Dust isn't a Gay Slur it is about being a mythical creature. MendleBread had to be a Tattletale growing up telling on his friends to the teachers, telling on his brothers and sisters to his parents... basically telling on everyone his whole life. What type of Job does he go and get into?? A Tattletale Job ofcourse where you sell stories to make money and the more you hurt individuals the better because people want to read dirt. Sure they call it investigative journalism but in reality it is just telling on people for a living.

When you can't find good enough stories you just make them up so you keep your job and readers and keep getting promoted like Stephen Randall Glass for the respectable paper called The New Republic.

Just look at an old movie called Meet John Doe where Barbara Stanwyck makes up stories to keep her job and climb the ladder using suicide to not only build the story but make him so popular that he can sway voters votes. Only the He-Lot Hater Walter Brennan makes real sense.

Back to OD... just another tattletale playing secret invisible Mod moving up the Ranks after everyone called for Missions Head. Typical to say the least.

Now AW in here giving it to Maxpen... doesn't AW have another victim to find in the AP ring or better yet get to white water rafting and see how dangerous it really is... I suggest 4 or 5 to get you started and realize you usually don't sit inside the Raft unless it is one of those huge Blue Ones that really isn't rafting. You sit on the side of the Raft and it is very easy to fall into the drink and get stuck or banged up in the rocks.

AW always on the side of the Mods at WoV with his green WoV pals... we know what your up to. Your not fooling anyone.

[AxelWolf]

So Nathan did send me a YouTube Video.
It was a black girl with glasses. Who kinda had an accent not sure from were.

I do find it off that this person held the phone(?) Extremely close to her face and you could not ever see her entire head and face at the same time let alone a full body shot.

I would have to see the pic of her on the bus again but even then it would be hard to tell if it was the same person.

Let's see what happens when/if she shows it to someone else. Either way, this probably won't clear anything up IMO. It could have been anyone in the video. One might also say it was someone being coached when speaking. It was not very flaunt perhap it was nerves.

[LarryS]

its been established from her behavior here that shelikes to "pretend" and fuck with people.

So if she is a black woman or a white man pretending to be a black woman doesnt matter. The role she plays as a retard on wov ..saying stupid things......is the issue. Its a role. No one is that stupid. And he loves to see people get riled up. Thats the game. Thats what she is trying to do here. Its obvious what she did here and was exposed rather quickly.

So is it out of the realm of reality that she has been doing the same shit at wov all this time? Of course not. Acting like a retard is her vitamins. Watching the reaction is what keeps him/her going.

HE gets off on "lets pretend". Even if the video is really her. Thats only 5 percent of the issues at wov.

[mickeycrimm]

its been established from her behavior here that shelikes to "pretend" and fuck with people.

So if she is a black woman or a white man pretending to be a black woman doesnt matter. The role she plays as a retard on wov ..saying stupid things......is the issue. Its a role. No one is that stupid. And he loves to see people get riled up. Thats the game. Thats what she is trying to do here. Its obvious what she did here and was exposed rather quickly.

So is it out of the realm of reality that she has been doing the same shit at wov all this time? Of course not. Acting like a retard is her vitamins. Watching the reaction is what keeps him/her going.

HE gets off on "lets pretend". Even if the video is really her. Thats only 5 percent of the issues at wov.

You're the retard.

[AxelWolf]

its been established from her behavior here that shelikes to "pretend" and fuck with people.

So if she is a black woman or a white man pretending to be a black woman doesn't matter. The role she plays as a retard on wov ..saying stupid things......is the issue. Its a role. No one is that stupid. And he loves to see people get riled up. Thats the game. Thats what she is trying to do here. Its obvious what she did here and was exposed rather quickly.

So is it out of the realm of reality that she has been doing the same shit at wov all this time? Of course not. Acting like a retard is her vitamins. Watching the reaction is what keeps him/her going.

HE gets off on "lets pretend". Even if the video is really her. Thats only 5 percent of the issues at wov.

I'm just reporting what happened.

I'm not sure how to put this. The person in the video could be as naive as Nathan seems to be. I have known people like that. If the person in the video is Nathan. I don't think Nathan is or is trying to act retarded. Some people are just Clueless space cadets who have a hard time learning things and fitting in but have other talents. You can tell someone like this not to do something repeatedly but they just can't help themselves.

Why was she trying to be deceptive in the first place? I have no clue. Only time will tell. I have a feeling someone will eventually be in her area willing and ready to meet up.

Either she is a really good troll or she is off a bit. Don't forget there are people with certain conditions that act like Nathan for real. I think we had one guy on WOV with autism who did similar things on a much smaller scale.

[MisterV]

Nathan has chosen not to post a new pic of herself with writing on it "Hello WoV" as the wiz suggested she do to end this silly speculation as to her bonafides.

Tasha, please ask Nathan why he/she/it is ignoring this suggestion, and let us know what he/she/it says.

Oh, tell her that failure to do this is tantamount to proof of her prevarication.

[mickeycrimm]

Nathan has chosen not to post a new pic of herself with writing on it "Hello WoV" as the wiz suggested she do to end this silly speculation as to her bonafides.

Tasha, please ask Nathan why he/she/it is ignoring this suggestion, and let us know what he/she/it says.

Oh, tell her that failure to do this is tantamount to proof of her prevarication.

How about you putting up a picture of yourself?

[MisterV]

How about you putting up a picture of yourself?

My identity is not and never has been at issue.

I've met many of the WoV guys at the WoVCons I attended.

Unlike Nathan / Tasha I'm a "known quantity."

I may be an asshole at times but at least I'm a known asshole.

[mickeycrimm]

How about you putting up a picture of yourself?

My identity is not and never has been at issue.

I've met many of the WoV guys at the WoVCons I attended.

Unlike Nathan / Tasha I'm a "known quantity."

I may be an asshole at times but at least I'm a known asshole.

How do we know you are the same person that showed up at the WoV Flings?

[AxelWolf]

Nathan has chosen not to post a new pic of herself with writing on it "Hello WoV" as the wiz suggested she do to end this silly speculation as to her bonafides.

Tasha, please ask Nathan why he/she/it is ignoring this suggestion, and let us know what he/she/it says.

Oh, tell her that failure to do this is tantamount to proof of her prevarication.

I do believe that she is sending or has sent The Wizard the same Video. It appears that he is busy atm.

I think he will come to the same conclusion as I have... Its Inconclusive for the most part. Let's say as an example: If I was 50/50 before, I might now be 60/40 in favor of her being "legit".
Perhaps Mike might lend it more credit since I would say he is less skeptical than I.

Is that Link or page still up that originally had Nathans Photo? If so, can someone PM it to me?

p.s. After watching it agian. I dont detect an accent. And the video is much closer to her face than I had originally thought so you only see part of her face.

[Dan Druff]

I'm going to have Tasha/Nathan/Karen call me soon, and I will talk with her.

A YouTube of a black woman saying hi to us doesn't mean much. I could walk into almost any casino and find a black woman to do this for $20.

During the phone call, I will ask enough questions to Tasha/Nathan/Karen to determine if it's the person behind the account, or just someone who was paid to get on the phone.

[Tasha]

Nathan has chosen not to post a new pic of herself with writing on it "Hello WoV" as the wiz suggested she do to end this silly speculation as to her bonafides.

Tasha, please ask Nathan why he/she/it is ignoring this suggestion, and let us know what he/she/it says.

Oh, tell her that failure to do this is tantamount to proof of her prevarication.

I do believe that she is sending or has sent The Wizard the same Video. It appears that he is busy atm.

I think he will come to the same conclusion as I have... Its Inconclusive for the most part. Let's say as an example: If I was 50/50 before, I might now be 60/40 in favor of her being "legit".
Perhaps Mike might lend it more credit since I would say he is less skeptical than I.

Is that Link or page still up that originally had Nathans Photo? If so, can someone PM it to me?

p.s. After watching it agian. I dont detect an accent. And the video is much closer to her face than I had originally thought so you only see part of her face.

No , the entire page that had the original picture has been deleted.

[mickeycrimm]

I'm going to have Tasha/Nathan/Karen call me soon, and I will talk with her.

A YouTube of a black woman saying hi to us doesn't mean much. I could walk into almost any casino and find a black woman to do this for $20.

During the phone call, I will ask enough questions to Tasha/Nathan/Karen to determine if it's the person behind the account, or just someone who was paid to get on the phone.

Dan, what about the new member, cablecompany, that started the Fake Nathan thread and put up the pic. We believe it was Wizardofnothing, former member at WoV. If you don't know his history, he was scamming WoV members out of money using freeplay as the bait, plus he had some other con games. His real name is Jeffrey Warren Toll. A few years back Bob Dancer wrote a couple of articles about being scammed by Toll. There is a group of people, ripped off for combined six figures by Toll, who are after his ass. Lawsuits and private investigators involved. They've put up a webpage you can find by googling jeffreywarrentoll.com. He has also been excluded from Pennsylvania casinos.

If Tasha is a sockpuppet I would think that Toll would be the first suspect. Perhaps you could check both cablecompany's and Tasha's IP's. Tasha is supposed to be in the Miami area IIRC.

[Tasha]

I am NOT Wizard Of Nothing! I promise!

[LarryS]

its been established from her behavior here that shelikes to "pretend" and fuck with people.

So if she is a black woman or a white man pretending to be a black woman doesn't matter. The role she plays as a retard on wov ..saying stupid things......is the issue. Its a role. No one is that stupid. And he loves to see people get riled up. Thats the game. Thats what she is trying to do here. Its obvious what she did here and was exposed rather quickly.

So is it out of the realm of reality that she has been doing the same shit at wov all this time? Of course not. Acting like a retard is her vitamins. Watching the reaction is what keeps him/her going.

HE gets off on "lets pretend". Even if the video is really her. Thats only 5 percent of the issues at wov.

I'm just reporting what happened.

I'm not sure how to put this. The person in the video could be as naive as Nathan seems to be. I have known people like that. If the person in the video is Nathan. I don't think Nathan is or is trying to act retarded. Some people are just Clueless space cadets who have a hard time learning things and fitting in but have other talents. You can tell someone like this not to do something repeatedly but they just can't help themselves.

Why was she trying to be deceptive in the first place? I have no clue. Only time will tell. I have a feeling someone will eventually be in her area willing and ready to meet up.

Either she is a really good troll or she is off a bit. Don't forget there are people with certain conditions that act like Nathan for real. I think we had one guy on WOV with autism who did similar things on a much smaller scale.

Only a retard would take a name of "nathan" and after months of posting under the manly name, set up to meet a member of the community and not tell them ahead of time that she is a woman so he knows who to look for. So he doesnt feel like a creap walking up to a lady and asking if her name is nathan. .. a retard or a scammer/troll

[LarryS]

its been established from her behavior here that shelikes to "pretend" and fuck with people.

So if she is a black woman or a white man pretending to be a black woman doesn't matter. The role she plays as a retard on wov ..saying stupid things......is the issue. Its a role. No one is that stupid. And he loves to see people get riled up. Thats the game. Thats what she is trying to do here. Its obvious what she did here and was exposed rather quickly.

So is it out of the realm of reality that she has been doing the same shit at wov all this time? Of course not. Acting like a retard is her vitamins. Watching the reaction is what keeps him/her going.

HE gets off on "lets pretend". Even if the video is really her. Thats only 5 percent of the issues at wov.

I'm just reporting what happened.

I'm not sure how to put this. The person in the video could be as naive as Nathan seems to be. I have known people like that. If the person in the video is Nathan. I don't think Nathan is or is trying to act retarded. Some people are just Clueless space cadets who have a hard time learning things and fitting in but have other talents. You can tell someone like this not to do something repeatedly but they just can't help themselves.

Why was she trying to be deceptive in the first place? I have no clue. Only time will tell. I have a feeling someone will eventually be in her area willing and ready to meet up.

Either she is a really good troll or she is off a bit. Don't forget there are people with certain conditions that act like Nathan for real. I think we had one guy on WOV with autism who did similar things on a much smaller scale.

just look at the facts. She is knowingly deceptive. First with her name on wov. Then meeting someone without giving a heads up that she is female.
then coming here and pretendig to be just a regular gal looking to talk about gambling, but insteas posts on the nathan photo topic as a detached third party, and then enters the topic on the same thread as nathan himself.

So all this nonsense that she is naturally retarded is silly.

She is knowingly deceptive...on both sites. You have no idea if what she is saying is real or make believe because she lives in a make believe world or wants you to believe she lives in one.