Challenge to Singer / Argentino

[kewlJ]

Ok, I have had enough of this nonsense. It has been a year now of this fraud making his mathematically impossible claims of making first 900K, now up to 1.5 million while playing negative expectation video poker. And at the same time, tearing down my and other AP's claims.

It is time to put your money where you mouth is.

Singer / Argentino now claims he has made 1.5 million playing negative expectation video poker.

I claim I have made a total of 1.2 million in my AP career ($938,000 from blackjack).

I propose we each deposit $100,000 into escrow with a top public audit firm. The Audit firm will review tax records for the years in question and provide an accurate amount that we each have won, reported and paid taxes on. Whoever is closest wins and will receive the entire $200,00 placed in escrow, less the audit firm fees.

Short and sweet. If this is too high stakes for you Singer / Argentino, perhaps you can get, slingshot, coach belly, Alan and some of your other supporters to throw in with you. I don't care how you go about it as long as you have 100k, to deposit in escrow. (your EBT card funds not acceptable)

I don't want to him and haw talk about this for weeks on end. I am prepared to do this immediately. I can deposit my escrow amount as early as Monday, July 9, 2018.

My tax guy has recommended Tompkins and Peters, CPA Audit here in Las Vegas, a well know tax audit firm with 30 years experience and a solid reputation. Neither I nor my tax representative is associated with Tompkins and Peters. If you are uncomfortable with this particular firm, I am sure we can find another that we both are comfortable with. But again I am not interested in playing you little internet troll / stalling games. I want this done now! In the next week.

Awaiting your reply big shot.

[Prozema]

Damn... Baller!

[MisterV]

I fear he'll not rise to the challenge.

Why risk $100K when he can flame and insult with impunity for free?

Hello, cost/benefit analysis.

[coach belly]

perhaps you can get coach belly to throw in with you.

I can deposit my escrow amount as early as Monday, July 9, 2018

I'm not in for the whole $100K, unless there's a double-or-nothing challenge of my choice.

But how much would it cost me to see your audit?

Go right ahead and deposit your escrow amount on Monday, and confirm that here.

[mickeycrimm]

perhaps you can get coach belly to throw in with you.

I can deposit my escrow amount as early as Monday, July 9, 2018

I'm not in for the whole $100K, unless there's a double-or-nothing challenge of my choice.

But how much would it cost me to see your audit?

Go right ahead and deposit your escrow amount on Monday, and confirm that here.

Singer should do the negotiating, numnutts. Butt out!

[coach belly]

perhaps you can get coach belly to throw in with you.

I can deposit my escrow amount as early as Monday, July 9, 2018

I'm not in for the whole $100K, unless there's a double-or-nothing challenge of my choice.

But how much would it cost me to see your audit?

Go right ahead and deposit your escrow amount on Monday, and confirm that here.

Singer should do the negotiating, numnutts. Butt out!

The little tewl brought my name into it, limp dick, so maybe you should butt out.

[mickeycrimm]

I'm not in for the whole $100K, unless there's a double-or-nothing challenge of my choice.

But how much would it cost me to see your audit?

Go right ahead and deposit your escrow amount on Monday, and confirm that here.

Singer should do the negotiating, numnutts. Butt out!

The little tewl brought my name into it, limp dick, so maybe you should butt out.

Then put your money in escrow and get back to us.

[coach belly]

Then put your money in escrow and get back to us.

Does this mean that you are taking action?

Because I'll take a side bet with you, and we can settle up face-to-face.

Then we can find out if your hand-on-neck technique will work on me....and I'll pay Alan to video that.

[mickeycrimm]

perhaps you can get coach belly to throw in with you.

I can deposit my escrow amount as early as Monday, July 9, 2018

I'm not in for the whole $100K, unless there's a double-or-nothing challenge of my choice.

But how much would it cost me to see your audit?

Go right ahead and deposit your escrow amount on Monday, and confirm that here.

Damn, Belly, you're an idiot. You want to bet but put in a stipulation, in case you lose, where you can easily get your money back on a sucker bet. Chickenshit motherfucker.

[Alan Mendelson]

Kewlj your challenge will never work. You wrote "amount that we each have won, reported and paid taxes on."

The problem for your challenge is that Rob didn't pay taxes for multiple years. He says he filed a Schedule C as a professional and offset his profits with everything including parties, dinners with his wife, and even supermarket groceries. If true and if he really got away with it that means he AP'd the IRS.

So you'd have to amend your challenge. Make it gross winnings as shown on tax records. That is the real test.

[kewlJ]

Kewlj your challenge will never work. You wrote "amount that we each have won, reported and paid taxes on."

The problem for your challenge is that Rob didn't pay taxes for multiple years. He says he filed a Schedule C as a professional and offset his profits with everything including parties, dinners with his wife, and even supermarket groceries. If true and if he really got away with it that means he AP'd the IRS.

So you'd have to amend your challenge. Make it gross winnings as shown on tax records. That is the real test.

Gross earnings are nothing Alan. Anyone, including you could have gross winnings listed on their tax return and still have lost for the year. As a matter of fact, if your statement that you have never had a winning year is correct (which I have no reason to doubt), then you would have had numerous years with 6 figure gross winnings on your taxes, that were actually losing years and offset with actual losses.

And I have suspect similar from Singer. I suspect he could offset those w-2 g's because he had actual losses totaling more that the wins. Singer's claim of offsetting with "parties, dinners and groceries" is just another tall tale. Doing so would be illegal. He offset those w-2 G's totals with actual losses, because he was a net loser for those years and his "career".

I have long suspected and said before that Singer's game is that he started with 2 million dollars (funds from a successful career in business) and "won a million" meaning he now has a million. By anyone else's definition that would be lost a million.

Now coach belly, you are not setting the terms. Let's have Singer / Argentino publicly agrees to the terms. Coach belly you are simply trying to bluff on behalf of your idol Singer. You are going to lose this one. My earnings are to the dollar what I claim and I have paid taxes on every dollar, so I can't lose this wager/challenge.

Now we all know Singer will not accept this challenge. He can't. He's lost before it even started. He will deflect and distract and attack and call names. That's what internet trolls do when they have nothing else.

[coach belly]

Coach belly you are simply trying to bluff on behalf of your idol Singer. You are going to lose this one.

Singer is not my idol, and I am not bluffing.

You are bluffing unless you answer my question...how much to see your audit?

[Alan Mendelson]

Kewlj just as a point of information, as a professional blackjack player do you file a Schedule C? Why or why not?

[kewlJ]

Kewlj just as a point of information, as a professional blackjack player do you file a Schedule C? Why or why not?

During the course of my career, I have filed both as an individual and as a business. There are benefits to both options. Tax laws changed a bit, I don't know 4 or 5 years ago (since I have been in Vegas) and I currently file as an individual. I have one of the top gaming tax experts in Las Vegas.

[kewlJ]

How would we know if you have two tax returns for each year? One return sent to the IRS and one return for show?

I could go on TurboTax right now and create a very profitable tax return to show you... and to win a bet. LOL.

Alan, this is precisely why we would employ a professional tax audit service. Part of the process would be that we would both be required to sign releases for the independent auditors to access our official person tax records for examination.

Coach belly you are simply trying to bluff on behalf of your idol Singer. You are going to lose this one.

Singer is not my idol, and I am not bluffing.

You are bluffing unless you answer my question...how much to see your audit?

The end process of this challenge would be that the independent auditor would release his findings based on actual tax records. The actual tax records would not be released. Nobody in his right mind would agree to that, because of personal information, but the findings of the independent professional auditor would be released.

I envision some sort of released statement such as player X, had a total of reported net winnings of xxxx and player Y had a total reported net winnings of xxxx. I am sure player X and Y could be replaced with some identifying thing like our handles. This is why we would be paying a professional auditor to act as referee.

So in answer to your question, coach, you get access to the findings for free!!! As part of the process. All you have to do is get Singer to agree and put up his share. Or put it up for him. Or whatever group effort you want. Makes no difference to me.

[coach belly]

So in answer to your question, coach, you get access to the findings for free!!!

Just in case Singer refuses to accept your challenge, how much would it take for you to release your audit
so that I could post the information here?

[kewlJ]

Alan thanks for reminding me that part of Singer's tall tale's is that he offset the tax liability of his 900k, now 1.5 million in so called "winnings" with deductions for "parties, dinners with wife and groceries". Doing so would be tax fraud and I don't think even Singer is stupid enough to do this and post about it. Although....I am not actually sure of the outer boundaries of his stupidity.

But the real question coming into focus is how stupid are you all? Alan? coach belly? Slingshot? You people that have either bought this bullshit or enabled and allowed this fraud / troll to get away with this for years?

It is time for this bullshit to end. And if it takes me depositing funds to an escrow account to expose this clown, so be it.

[Alan Mendelson]

Alan thanks for reminding me that part of Singer's tall tale's is that he offset the tax liability of his 900k, now 1.5 million in so called "winnings" with deductions for "parties, dinners with wife and groceries". Doing so would be tax fraud and I don't think even Singer is stupid enough to do this and post about it. Although....I am not actually sure of the outer boundaries of his stupidity.

But the real question coming into focus is how stupid are you all? Alan? coach belly? Slingshot? You people that have either bought this bullshit or enabled and allowed this fraud / troll to get away with this for years?

It is time for this bullshit to end. And if it takes me depositing funds to an escrow account to expose this clown, so be it.

Hold on there buster. I challenged Singer on his tax filings from Day One. You're no pioneer.

[mickeycrimm]

Kewlj your challenge will never work. You wrote "amount that we each have won, reported and paid taxes on."

The problem for your challenge is that Rob didn't pay taxes for multiple years. He says he filed a Schedule C as a professional and offset his profits with everything including parties, dinners with his wife, and even supermarket groceries. If true and if he really got away with it that means he AP'd the IRS.

So you'd have to amend your challenge. Make it gross winnings as shown on tax records. That is the real test.

So all Rob got for ten years of video poker play was some parties, dinners and groceries.

[MisterV]

Yearly winnings minus yearly losses= the target.

Disregard Schedule C bullshit deductions.