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  1. #321
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    The "soft profits" concept isn't a bad idea for "regular gamblers" who keep playing till nothing is left.

    What's so horrible about stopping and thinking for a moment?
    "Regular gamblers" is another way of saying degenerate gamblers. Degenerate gamblers have all sorts of little tricks that they use (appropriately names tricks) because all they are doing is tricking themselves. These "tricks" change NOTHING in the longrun.

    So here's what I take away from your statement: You are basically conceding Singer is a degenerate gambler applying these silly little tricks and goofy phrases like "soft profits" to trick himself and more importantly anyone who will listen to him.

    "Soft profits".....ridiculous. Changes nothing in the long run. These silly stop limits, with whatever label you want to put on them, change nothing in the long run.

    Here is the only concept you need to understand, Alan and slingshot:

    +EV play = longterm win (unless you make enough erase that advantage). -EV = longterm losses. None of this other nonsense, or goofy terms can change that. THAT IS THE FACTS.

  2. #322
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by slingshot View Post
    This is the craziest mumbo jumbo I've read so far! It is a make believe world created by make believe math! My son made thousands of dollars as a computer analyst selling virtual property to people who were unable to program them in their make believe cities, etc. I couldn't believe anyone would purchase something that didn't exist so they could operate in a make believe world- but now I see it's possible. Use make believe math to create make believe sessions. It's easy to put it on paper- but it comes out different in the real world.
    No...this rebuttal is the craziest mumbo jumbo, posted so far. "Make believe math?" There is only one person (and his followers) that is using fake or alternative math. You are backing a guy ho keeps telling you that 2+2=5. And that is all this whole bag of nonsense comes down to.
    Not quite. He's trying to tell the suckers that -0.67 (or whatever the house edge is on the game he's playing) + -0.67 = +1.65. Suckers will be suckers.

  3. #323
    2+2 does equal 5 when we bill our clients.

  4. #324
    Kewlj continues as kewlj has always continued and wrote ""Regular gamblers" is another way of saying degenerate gamblers."

    No, and try to understand this. Regular gamblers are the millions of people who go to casinos to try their luck and fully understand that the odds are against them.

    Not everyone is an AP, kewlj. The world doesn't hate APs either.

    There is no harm in taking a hundred dollars, playing for example 20 hands of video poker, and then pausing to count what you have.

    What is the harm in doing that?

    If after 20 hands you have $140, you might cash out the ticket and return to play with $40 at 25-cents. Or, if after your 20 hands you have $70 and then you say "let's go eat."

    What's the harm in that?

    While I don't know or understand most of what Rob does, THIS PART makes perfect sense.

  5. #325
    Alan, I concede that I don't distinguish, as I probably should, between degenerate gamblers and recreational losing players. I shouldn't lump players that are recreationally losing in the name of fun, enjoyment and entertainment in with those that are gambling irresponsibly, above their means. BUT both are in the category of -EV players or losing players. That is what I distinguish with +EV or winning players.

    I really don't care if you Alan, in whatever category you want to place yourself, degenerate, or recreational losing player, want to do and believe whatever nonsense you want. Whatever makes you feel good about yourself. BUT, I do object to the likes of you and slingshot supporting Singer's claims, and making arguments on his behalf, when you both have admitted that you not even don't play his system, but don't even know it.

    Learn Singer's "system". PLAY Singer's system. Then come back and tell us about it.

  6. #326
    Originally Posted by SLaPiNFuNK View Post
    Oh Alan. You're alive. Thanks for responding to my texts. Still no money. Not doing any more work for you.
    Oh boy. Alan, you apparently are beyond embarrassment, but I am seriously embarrassed for you.

    Get yourself and life together Alan and stop making gambling your top priority.


    edit: Oh, I see SlapiNFuNK has already deleted his post. Something goofy and dishonest about that practice as well. Must run in the family. lol

  7. #327
    Kewlj wrote "BUT, I do object to the likes of you and slingshot supporting Singer's claims."

    Where or when have I ever? Quote any forum post or anything on YouTube or my website.

  8. #328
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Kewlj wrote "BUT, I do object to the likes of you and slingshot supporting Singer's claims."

    Where or when have I ever? Quote any forum post or anything on YouTube or my website.
    OMG. Alan, you are seriously delusional. You are living in another universe. I am literally arguing with a crazy person.

  9. #329
    The only thing I have done is pointed out the actual statements Rob has made to me and how they've been twisted by everyone else. The truth is on my website. Even how I questioned and doubted his strategy.

    You never looked, did you?

    I posted the links.

  10. #330
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    Learn Singer's "system". PLAY Singer's system. Then come back and tell us about it.
    The only intelligent, truthful point you have ever made here.

    In order for anyone to support or criticize my play strategy, it is only simple common sense that they fully endorse/put into play what you just said. To do either without the proper knowledge or experience only creates an argument between a dumb person and a smart one. To the dumb & inexperienced one, that 2+2 will always equal 5, unless and until they heed your words above. And taking the easy way out of the argument by simply saying "+EV = winning and -EV = losing" is only done by the timid and afraid.

  11. #331
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    Learn Singer's "system". PLAY Singer's system. Then come back and tell us about it.
    The only intelligent, truthful point you have ever made here.

    In order for anyone to support or criticize my play strategy, it is only simple common sense that they fully endorse/put into play what you just said. To do either without the proper knowledge or experience only creates an argument between a dumb person and a smart one. To the dumb & inexperienced one, that 2+2 will always equal 5, unless and until they heed your words above. And taking the easy way out of the argument by simply saying "+EV = winning and -EV = losing" is only done by the timid and afraid.
    Rob, why do you have to stoop to the name calling, attacks, and trying to tear other people down? If your system is really what you claim, let it stand on its own merit. If your system really worked there would be no need to call people dumb and stupid, uneducated, or attack someone on the basis of sex, religion, sexual orientation or anything else, including things like someone's former battle with alcoholism. Someone who engages in this kind of behavior is compensating for their own shortcomings, or in this case the short comings of your "system". You aren't fooling anyone here, with that nonsense.

  12. #332
    Kewlj you are correct that Rob should never have insulted anyone and I am his friend and I've told him that too. But these forums (and I mean all of them) are filled with insults and attacks.

    I never insulted you. I disagreed with your two-table claim but you immediately attacked me.

    You just attacked me on this page.

    See how easily it happens?

  13. #333
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Kewlj you are correct that Rob should never have insulted anyone and I am his friend and I've told him that too. But these forums (and I mean all of them) are filled with insults and attacks.

    I never insulted you. I disagreed with your two-table claim but you immediately attacked me.

    You just attacked me on this page.

    See how easily it happens?
    You are correct Alan, that I sometimes get caught up and go in that direction. You do too Alan. I will give you credit for being a little more restrained than some of us, but you most certainly have attacked me as well. I can go back and quote some if you really feel the need.

    But for my money, in my experiences here, this climate started with Rob. When he is unable to defend or answer criticism, he attacks. "You are stupid", "you are dumb", "you are an alcoholic", homophobic slurs, personal attacks, even personal attacks on spouses and family members that have passed away and never even participated here (and not just mine). All because he runs out of answers defending what there is no legitimate defense for.

    this strategy of attacks serves two purposes, to tear down those criticizing Rob and his methods and try to discredit them and it is meant to discourage others who may want to weigh in. Serves as a warning.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 07-18-2018 at 10:00 AM.

  14. #334
    I'm not going to deny that Rob is the worst offender. Neither will Rob.

    It's part of his game. You should realize that by now.

  15. #335
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post

    Learn Singer's "system". PLAY Singer's system. Then come back and tell us about it.
    The only intelligent, truthful point you have ever made here.

    In order for anyone to support or criticize my play strategy, it is only simple common sense that they fully endorse/put into play what you just said. To do either without the proper knowledge or experience only creates an argument between a dumb person and a smart one. To the dumb & inexperienced one, that 2+2 will always equal 5, unless and until they heed your words above. And taking the easy way out of the argument by simply saying "+EV = winning and -EV = losing" is only done by the timid and afraid.
    Rob, why do you have to stoop to the name calling, attacks, and trying to tear other people down? If your system is really what you claim, let it stand on its own merit. If your system really worked there would be no need to call people dumb and stupid, uneducated, or attack someone on the basis of sex, religion, sexual orientation or anything else, including things like someone's former battle with alcoholism. Someone who engages in this kind of behavior is compensating for their own shortcomings, or in this case the short comings of your "system". You aren't fooling anyone here, with that nonsense.
    Do you ever read the hypocrisy you engage in?

    My strategy does stand on its own merit because I've won a bundle using it. People like you who don't understand it because they don't want to understand it and would rather blindly criticize it, is what makes no sense to intelligent people. It is a very lazy approach. And someone your age should want to know and do a whole lot more instead of continuing on in their fantasy "world of neon" but where only what interests you counts.

  16. #336
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I'm not going to deny that Rob is the worst offender. Neither will Rob.

    It's part of his game. You should realize that by now.
    And that's something else kew doesn't want to get because it didn't come from him.

    I've been back & forth with AP's for 18 years now on my play strategy. To them it does not compute--not because they tried or wanted anything to do with understanding it--but because it is not what they do or how they do it. Close-minded at its finest. Kew you've had things explained up & down and back & forth to you a dozen times, and I've even offered to show everything to you in person. I wouldn't give out pics or names--heck, I already know who you really are. But you choose to denigrate, lie, and misrepresent because it's the easy way out. So I or anyone who supports using it is automatically a "loser, degenerate, cousin eddie, who steals electricity" or whatever nonsense these people come up with that's so far from the truth it's silly.

    As long as there are people out there who would rather lie and be lazy when it comes to me or my strategy, I've been around enuf to have much better skills than them at the insult game, and I especially have come to enjoy it when the opponent is weak, obviously lying about themselves and me, and they show an inclination to be set off for my entertainment value--and likely many others enjoy the show also.

  17. #337
    This show should have closed a long time ago, Rob. I'm still your friend but you're still your own worst enemy.

    By the way, that new show Marilyn on the Strip I don't think lasted a week.

  18. #338
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    This show should have closed a long time ago, Rob. I'm still your friend but you're still your own worst enemy. .
    You've heard "keep your friends close and your enemies closer"? Well, I have the best advantage on that. My "worst enemy" is so close I can taste his spit! And I'm no homo.

  19. #339
    ROB, it's not just AP's that are VERRY skeptical of your system and claims.

    For example. MR. V doesn't claim to be an AP or a math geek. Hes also been known to be skeptical of AP claims,
    However, I think he's skeptical of your claims.

    You can even ask Larry who's is in the same boat as MR. V.
    Last edited by AxelWolf; 07-18-2018 at 04:16 PM.

  20. #340
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    ROB, it's not just AP's that are majority skeptical of your system and claims.
    I don't think that the general public knows about Rob. I think there are maybe 200 people on the various forums that do.

    I think if you went around casinos and asked random players what would they do if they just won a thousand dollars most would say "go home."

    But what would the APs say? They'd say going home is meaningless because it's one long session.

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