July 8, 2018: The first day of the "Room Occupied" era at Caesars Vegas properties

[Dan Druff]

They just replaced my Do Not Disturb sign with this garbage today.

This is part of a "test" program at Rio.

No more Do Not Disturb.

Security CAN (but won't always) enter room every 24 hours.

They send in two security guards. One stands by the door, the other inspects the room.

When inspection is over, security guard has to use the room phone to call in and verify he checked the room (presumably to prevent security from lying about having been in there?)

Lame.

[MisterV]

How in depth will their inspections be?

Will they go through a guest's luggage and drawers?

What if they find illegal stuff other than guns, e.g. a bindle of cocaine, for instance?

Will they rat out a paying customer to the cops for anything other than a terrorist threat?

If so, there goes the old "What happens in Vegas..." and "sin city" mottos.

[RS__]

This can be prevented using three easy steps.

1. Buy taser.
2. Use taser.
3. Actually....just 2 steps.

[regnis]

How in depth will their inspections be?

Will they go through a guest's luggage and drawers?

What if they find illegal stuff other than guns, e.g. a bindle of cocaine, for instance?

Will they rat out a paying customer to the cops for anything other than a terrorist threat?

If so, there goes the old "What happens in Vegas..." and "sin city" mottos.

V--do you think any evidence (with cocaine for example) would be admissible? Probable cause? Illegal search? Fruits of an illegal search? Warrant?

[Dankyone]

Which hotel?

[Alan Mendelson]

When a housekeeper cleans your room they also use the phone to record the visit. So there should always be a record of room entry.

Is there a procedure they follow if you are in the room when they want to inspect?

[MisterV]

While I am not a criminal attorney, my initial thought is that as the guest was on notice that a daily search would be done, any contraband found would probably be admissible, at least so long as the security guard stayed in the room with the contraband until the police arrived.

If it was found in plain sight there should be no problem; if it was found out of plain sight, as incident to a search, I suppose the question would be whether the search exceeded permissible bounds.

I am not confident that this is correct, but it is how I view it at the moment.

[seemoreroyals]

They had these same Room Occupied signs at Horseshoe Bossier City when we were there this weekend. Did not read the fine print on it but it appeared to be the same.

[Alan Mendelson]

I'm all in favor of the inspections as long as they are reasonable. I tend to be up all night and sleep most of the day. I have housekeeping come in the evening. It's okay with me if they want to inspect at the same time -- but not while I'm in bed.

[AxelWolf]

My problem is that I have had problems with both maids and security stealing from me(security got me in AC for over 1k during a room transfer..I fogot my jacket in the room I left and they got my.shit).

Maids really get you good unles you are extra careful. Yes I know, there are way to make.sure none of this ever happens. Unfortunately if you stay in enough palaces a mistake is bound to happen.
just poses a problem to ME as far as I'm concerned.

[Alan Mendelson]

These people always have access to your room so there is always a danger of theft whether you have scheduled housekeeping or security inspections or not. You have to keep your valuables protected.

[Dan Druff]

These people always have access to your room so there is always a danger of theft whether you have scheduled housekeeping or security inspections or not. You have to keep your valuables protected.

You're missing the point.

If you keep a Do Not Disturb on constantly, then if anything goes missing, you can complain and they can check the entry log for the lock, and see who entered.

So then the maid or security has to explain why they barged through a DnD sign, and you can press it from there.

If they can now enter when they feel like for "daily checks", if anything goes missing, they can simply deny that they took anything, and their entry will be considered normal.

Usually thieves will go after the low-hanging fruit. They would rather steal when they're "supposed" to be in the room, rather than barge through a DnD and then face a customer complaint when stuff goes missing.

[LarryS]

I uess the finding of cocaine for example would be during a normal serch.

there has to be some middle ground between an open meth lab in the bathtub, and a secret compartment in the bottom of a packed suitcase.

if you bring a computer into a computer fix it shopand they stumble upon child porn or child abuse pictures, i think they can report it and the evidence would stick, no matter how encrypted or hard to find it was.

[MisterV]

Sure, and if security finds a bindle of cocaine they can call 911.

But it they're smart, they won't.

Time will tell whether this intrusion becomes a deal breaker for some.

[Dan Druff]

Speaking of going after the low-hanging fruit, have you ever paid attention to the robberies which occur outside of LA-area poker rooms?

Some have been brutal, at times involving follow-home murders.

However, the victims are almost always women or the elderly.

They rarely seem to go after non-elderly men.

Why?

Because even though the robber still has a big edge when holding a gun or knife, he still doesn't want to take the chance to rob someone who might fight him, when he can easily pick on someone who is likely unable to fight back.

Pretty much the same thing goes for hotel room thefts.

[monet]

Speaking of going after the low-hanging fruit, have you ever paid attention to the robberies which occur outside of LA-area poker rooms?

Some have been brutal, at times involving follow-home murders.

However, the victims are almost always women or the elderly.

They rarely seem to go after non-elderly men.

Why?

Because even though the robber still has a big edge when holding a gun or knife, he still doesn't want to take the chance to rob someone who might fight him, when he can easily pick on someone who is likely unable to fight back.

Pretty much the same thing goes for hotel room thefts.

Stop trying to Save the World you Fucking Crusader! Man has been killing Man for Millennia just because he can let alone for a days wage or meals or shoes or what the fuck ever. You and your Crusading Mission in the Poker Community or in Life in general isn't ever going to change that so as the running joke goes... "Knock Knock."

[regnis]

Speaking of going after the low-hanging fruit, have you ever paid attention to the robberies which occur outside of LA-area poker rooms?

Some have been brutal, at times involving follow-home murders.

However, the victims are almost always women or the elderly.

They rarely seem to go after non-elderly men.

Why?

Because even though the robber still has a big edge when holding a gun or knife, he still doesn't want to take the chance to rob someone who might fight him, when he can easily pick on someone who is likely unable to fight back.

Pretty much the same thing goes for hotel room thefts.

Stop trying to Save the World you Fucking Crusader! Man has been killing Man for Millennia just because he can let alone for a days wage or meals or shoes or what the fuck ever. You and your Crusading Mission in the Poker Community or in Life in general isn't ever going to change that so as the running joke goes... "Knock Knock."

Didn't you mean to say "Fucking Jew Crusader" Monet?

[Alan Mendelson]

Dan, times have changed. I'm all for inspections. Just do it when I'm not sleeping. There are probably 14 hours in a day when they can come in my room.

I know we discussed this before but I also want housekeeping every day including fresh towels and sheets. I can protect my valuables, so yes I want service.

I think you need to rent a house or an apartment from now on for the WSOP. Community safety is the priority and not a no-enter room for Dan.

[LarryS]

Dan, times have changed. I'm all for inspections. Just do it when I'm not sleeping. There are probably 14 hours in a day when they can come in my room.

I know we discussed this before but I also want housekeeping every day including fresh towels and sheets. I can protect my valuables, so yes I want service.

I think you need to rent a house or an apartment from now on for the WSOP. Community safety is the priority and not a no-enter room for Dan.

are you kidding? This is a town that prides itself on the "what happens in vegas stays in vegas" mantra......where people are partying all night and sleeping all day.

so when do you walk in a room.....a 3 am when some peole are just getting in. Or at 11 am when they are into 3 hours of sleep?

when people start saying "i am not going to stay out late or go to shows or clubs because i want to be awake for "room check".....then vegas hotels have a problem

[Tasha]

To be fair, your valuables should be locked in your safe with an easy for you to remember password but hard for other people to guess.