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Thread: July 8, 2018: The first day of the "Room Occupied" era at Caesars Vegas properties

  1. #41
    Well right now there are no room checks and Dan doesn't want anyone in his room. Not even to change the sheets and towels he posted once before.

    So what do you all want?

    LarryS says we need super security, Dan says don't come in my room, I say schedule your room check when I'm not sleeping and MaxPen says what MaxPen always says.

    Your move.

  2. #42
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    Originally Posted by LarryS View Post


    the sheep like allan will accept whatever they decide...so there are no consequences right now.

    casinos know that the allans of the world will accept whatever they do...be it reduce comps, or provide a halfhearted attempt at security.
    Master of the Obvious. Everyone who reads this forum knows Alan MendelFool is the cuck of all cucks. Maybe we should start addressing him as MendelCuck.
    I second that.

  3. #43
    Cousin Eddie says to get a $1500 trailer if you don't like room checks.

    I've spent half my life in hotels around the world and never experienced a "room check". Why? Probably because they're annoying and useless. Paddock brought all those guns to his room and it made no sense. He only needed the main weapon, a backup, ammo, and a handgun. Not hard to hide that stuff from what will obviously always be lazy, shoddy room checks.

    When travelling alone I never like my room disturbed either unless I'm in it more than 4 days. Who besides mickeycrimm needs their sheets changed in a hotel anyway?

    Now we'd like to hear from redietz on this. We'd like his perspective on the Gold Coast, Orleans, downtown hotels, and other gems where he gets all those sports betting comps. Or does his gay Boeing boss friend from LA have the final say as they ride the bus into town?

  4. #44
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Cousin Eddie says to get a $1500 trailer if you don't like room checks.

    I've spent half my life in hotels around the world and never experienced a "room check". Why? Probably because they're annoying and useless. Paddock brought all those guns to his room and it made no sense. He only needed the main weapon, a backup, ammo, and a handgun. Not hard to hide that stuff from what will obviously always be lazy, shoddy room checks.

    When travelling alone I never like my room disturbed either unless I'm in it more than 4 days. Who besides mickeycrimm needs their sheets changed in a hotel anyway?

    Now we'd like to hear from redietz on this. We'd like his perspective on the Gold Coast, Orleans, downtown hotels, and other gems where he gets all those sports betting comps. Or does his gay Boeing boss friend from LA have the final say as they ride the bus into town?
    I'll be staying at the Orleans in two weeks. I will not defend the Orleans, as LarryS can do a better job than me. It's one thing LarryS and I agree on.

    I will not defend taking the LuxBus, although I'll be flying this trip. The Lamborghini, in case anyone saw it in the Retro Road Trip thread, is a no go, as the wear on tires costs almost two bucks a mile.

    I agree with Dan on the room check thing. I have it on good authority that the default code on room safes in Las Vegas is the same for the majority of them.

  5. #45
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Well right now there are no room checks and Dan doesn't want anyone in his room. Not even to change the sheets and towels he posted once before.

    So what do you all want?

    LarryS says we need super security, Dan says don't come in my room, I say schedule your room check when I'm not sleeping and MaxPen says what MaxPen always says.

    Your move.
    I want housekeeping to come in when I don't hang the DND sign and to stay away when I do, which is rare. I'm not for mandated room checks. That seems absurd to me if there are no other security measures (such as metal detectors) in place. As has been stated, high powered rifles can be broken down to fit in luggage. What is the point of a room check when they won't open your luggage if you're not in the room, and they probably won't even flip over a mattress to check under there either.

  6. #46
    I wonder what you guys would say if there were metal detectors, and bomb sniffing dogs, and xrays of you and all your bags when you came onto the property, and they swept your room with metal detectors once a day, and there were no more adjoining rooms?

  7. #47
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I wonder what you guys would say if there were metal detectors, and bomb sniffing dogs, and xrays of you and all your bags when you came onto the property, and they swept your room with metal detectors once a day, and there were no more adjoining rooms?
    metal detectors at airports are a way of life and travel by air has skyrocketed despite their initial presence of metal detectors decades ago.

    A year or so after 9-11 I remember going to a casino on the strip..it may have been the Bellagio.....and there was someone checking my trunk as i pulled into the parking structure. I didnt mind it at all. In the world we live in, I dont feel inconvenienced by that. As long as I can see that it has a real value.

    Checking of a room has no real value. Its just a casinos saying "look at us, we are doing something that costs us no extra money to give you a phoney sense of security. Weapons can be in a locked suitcase. Then what. Someone can bbring a suitcase of automatic and assault rifles to a room and immediately kick out the window and start shooting. There is no reason they need to wait. So then what.....wouldnt an Xray machine have been a little more helpful than a possible room check 24 hours after the shooting.

    Terrorists look at vegas a a prime target based on the lifestyle it represents.Nothing would please them more than to make a statement about the decadence of the americans. And what better place to do it. Its coming people. And when it does it doesnt have to be a dude accumulating grenades and rifles over time. It can be a swift assault, just minutes after room check in. I am surprised with all the casinos as a group has to lose...they dont do something more effective to protect the property..and more importantly protect the world view of fear of dying if visiting vegas. Heck, it doesnt even have to be a room check in....soneone wearng a vest of grenades can just walk into the center of the casino...or at a long line at checkin at 2pm.

    The ghost town that vegas will turn into after a major attack would be more hurtful than the property damage and life damage inflicted.

    And knowing that they are a big target....the best they can do to protect theirproperty and worldwide reputation is "room checks"??????

    My guess is that eventually there will be metal derectors in order to enter initially. But only after some massive eventto give the casino financial incentive. But by then it may be too late. The reduction of visitors caused by the massive event because of the expectation that there is more to come from an organized group....will cause these bloated massive in size casinos to crumble financially under their own massive weight.

    A terrorist act doesnt have to take down an entire building in vegas like with the wolrd trade center. The act(s) itself can make the loss of future business cause the massive bloated casinos to fall financially...which is just as good as blowing it up entirely. A slow painful death would ensue.

    Yet "room checks" are the answer./

    yeah right

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    Think of the blowback in sin city if a cadre of terrorists, of whatever ilk, simultaneously set fires in several casinos.

    Not just small fires; ones fueled with several gallons of gasoline or some other product which they brought into the casino.

    Imagine if the fires are fueled at least in part with white phosphorous, which IIRC will not go out when the sprinklers kick in.

    Think "firebombing of Dresden."
    What, Me Worry?

  9. #49
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Think of the blowback in sin city if a cadre of terrorists, of whatever ilk, simultaneously set fires in several casinos.

    Not just small fires; ones fueled with several gallons of gasoline or some other product which they brought into the casino.

    Imagine if the fires are fueled at least in part with white phosphorous, which IIRC will not go out when the sprinklers kick in.

    Think "firebombing of Dresden."
    yes there are dozens of scenarios the average person can thinnk of....but the casinos and all the patrons are taking a "see no evil, hear no evil" stance.

    Its not a matter of "if"........but when isis or the like gets involved, vegas may never be the same.

    I know NYC is doinf ok....but vegas is a totally different animal. In NYC it wasnt as if broadway theaters were blow up.....it was an office building. So people dont think the attractions are in danger. Its an erroneous thought...but at least people who want to go to NYC can make themselves believe that central park, the theaters, and the restaurants are all safe.

    But if terrorists hit vegas....more likely it will be the casinos.....it wont be the outlet shopping center, or some office building.

    And once that happens, unlike NYC...there will be a cloud of pending doom over the biggest attraction of vegas......the casinos

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