LarryS do you think YOU were the first person who thought Paddock had help? Why are you so full of yourself? I note that whenever you list forum members with problems you always fail to list yourself.
LarryS do you think YOU were the first person who thought Paddock had help? Why are you so full of yourself? I note that whenever you list forum members with problems you always fail to list yourself.
are you still being mentally ill on purpose or is that your natural state.
I STATED THAT i DISMISS THE NOTION/// that there was a conspiracy ..i dont give it thought since there is not one piece of proof.
at least my children dont follow me here to air out complaints of me as a dad.
so if i do have a problem its hasnt escalated to mendelsonian proprotions
That's fine if you dismiss a conspiracy. I just remember sitting in a bar with my girlfriend a few blocks away from the Strip when a few police officers standing next to me heard on their radios "multiple shooters." Less than an hour later on TV it was only a "lone gunman."
How convenient was that? The last thing Vegas needs is the fear that others were involved and still out there.
Oh... let's dismiss those videos showing gunfire from different places at Mandalay Bay. They're just reflections. Right.
By the way LarryS what makes you such an expert on everything and everyone?
what makes you asssume i am an expert......again its your faulty assumptions that make you seem ill equipped to fend for yourself in this world.....and allows your child to try to fuck you up the ass in public.
It's statements like this LarryS that make it appear you're an expert:
"I STATED THAT i DISMISS THE NOTION/// that there was a conspiracy ..i dont give it thought since there is not one piece of proof."
What is proof? There are videos, audio recordings and eye witness accounts of shots being fired from multiple directions. But despite that the "official" statement is a "lone gunman" and we still don't know what motivated a lone gunman and it took media lawsuits to get police records and videos to be released six months later.
It's in the best interests of the police, Vegas and every investigation to say there was a lone gunman.
Isn't it also interesting that whenever a shooter gets killed the police "discover" that shooter was also responsible for a number of unsolved crimes?
there are plenty of media whores that would love to put forth some evidence showing a cover up and there is hungry media out there hapy to give such a person a national platform.
But alas its not there.....
But it is there and people are afraid to see it. The easy way out is to say it was a lone gunman. Imagine that... a lone gunman with no known agenda or reasons and no connections to anything. How simple and convenient. Yet there still isn't a final report more than nine months later. Why? What's holding up the final report on the lone gunman with no connections to anyone or anything?
if "its there"...there would be plenty of low rated talking head shows that would pound this till people took notice....just to get into the ratings battle with bigger shows
There is always sme show that finds a niche like this
Nancy grace did it with missing children or certain murders.......and look at her now
I remember a nancy grace opening once years ago...." we have a missing child, and you can help find her......but first....(and the film rolls of michael jackson with a cane entering court) michael jackson appeare din court amid charges......blah blah blah. What a media whore....who wrapps herself in the blanket of helping society, yet she would tease a missing girl in order to get more eyeballs throughthe entire show.
And thats what we have in the media. So if there was any real evidence of multi shooters.....there would be at least one whore out there to pounce on it
The money is behind a lone gunman.
the casinos dont control national media
maybe local media.....but there are enough media whores that are untouched by casinomoney
The media are not the ones who haven't issued a final report after 9 months on a lone gunman working independently.
but the media is a majot plaer in getting the facts to surface......especially if the facts are being submerged....that what investigative reporting is all about...Its stories llike this where reporters make a name for themselvesOriginally Posted by Alan Mendelson
the next woodward or berstein can emerge and make a career and alot of money
but the media has been quiet...and probably for a good reason. the reason being there is nothing more to report
Perhaps you don't know this, but the only reason the police released those tapes and videos was because they sued to get them.
Edited to add: more records released today under court order. From the Review Journal. Note that the police fought against releasing the info.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/...oting-records/
Last edited by Alan Mendelson; 07-18-2018 at 05:37 PM.
Really?!Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Please post a link to the videos which show that there were in fact "shots being fired from multiple directions."
How can you tell it wasn't echos?
One must assume that a sharp cookie such as yourself can see separate muzzle flashes, right?
Last edited by MisterV; 07-18-2018 at 08:01 PM.
What, Me Worry?
alan dismisses the chance that bullets might have ricocheted and changed direction, and that a person in the middle of that turmoil might view it as multiple direction fire.Originally Posted by MisterVReally?!Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Please post a link to the videos which show that there were in fact "shots being fired from multiple directions."
How can you tell it isn't echos"
One must assume an sharp cookie such as yourself can see separate muzzle flashes, right?
I'm not an expert on analyzing videos but there are plenty that were posted on YouTube. Do a conspiracy search and you'll find them.
But what is most troubling is that a "lone gunman case" is taking way too long for a final report and the police are fighting the media requests to release info that normally gets released within days.
The media had to go to court to get the tapes. Normally police tapes are released within days and not nine months later and only after a judge ordered the police to release them.
What's next a Warren Commission to prove Paddock acted alone and do you believe Lee Harvey Oswald really fired precisely those shots with a World War One non automatic rifle?
A little skepticism, please.
Larry, Larry, Larry you wrote "alan dismisses the chance that bullets might have ricocheted." I don't dismiss anything including that muzzle flashes could reflect. But I don't swallow without questioning when there is conflicting information. You apparently believe everything without question.
Edited to add: I can even accept that Paddock was the only one to fire, but I can't believe he planned and pulled off the entire operation himself without any outsider motivating or helping him.
Last edited by Alan Mendelson; 07-18-2018 at 07:45 PM.
it would seem to me that history tells s that madmen that shoot into a crowd of people tend to work alone....whether its the dude who shot up a movie theater, or the shooting in connecticut or florida at the schools. Or the college shootings over the years. Or the recent church shooting.Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
whats so hard to believe that a single disturbed person couldnt do a massively horrible thing. Heck most mass murderers who killed individually over years worked alone.
terrorists work together...but have you seen that he had ties to a terrorist organization???
without that proof..to me he is the dime a dozen mass murderer that works alone..
"terrorists work together...but have you seen that he had ties to a terrorist organization???"
Larry, we haven't seen hardly anything. It took a lawsuit and a judge's order to get the police to start releasing info... and after 9 months there's plenty that hasnt been released.
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