El Cortez automatic shuffle machine cheating

[kewlJ]

Good god, you are moving this site another notch to the crazier side of crazy. I was hoping we were going to head in the other direction.

[kewlJ]

You are on many forums so Moses could be referring to something or somewhere else.

Actually I am not on many forums Monet. For the last year I have posted here and at the re-incarnated BJinfo. And I had a 3 week stint at Qfit's site as spiderman.

And let's clear that up too. I am not posting at any of these places as a sock puppet.

Here is a list of the alternative names I have used besides KJ and kewlj.

1.) shortly after my banning at WoV, I posted as kewlj2 or KJ2 (can't remember which) and then kewlj3 or KJ3, each for a couple hours, getting some things off my chest. I don't really consider that a sockpuppet, but I guess technically, so that's 2.

2.) I guess about a year or 18 months ago, I posted at both WoV and BJTF as LVkid for a short time. I did so, because I was informed by a 3rd party that Shackleford wanted to find a way to allow me to participate and was willing to do so under a different handle. I thought that cowardly, as it was just him not willing to admit mistakes and deal with it like an adult. But I thought I would give it a try.

Well, either this 3rd party was misinformed, or someone forgot to tell Mike's luitenant and private eye, BBB. And LVkid went red at both sites within minutes.

3.) The recent stint as spiderman at BJTF. Sockpuppet, yes technically, but I went out of my way to be sure everyone knew who I was. My intent was to contribute positively and see if Norm was at a point that he could move on. Apparently he isn't.

I was not MrBo. I am not reymo, which I just heard about. For the most part I am KJ or kewlj and when I participate, I participate under those name and the credibility that I have built up. I made exceptions for LVkid and spiderman as already explained.

[Moses]

Good god, you are moving this site another notch to the crazier side of crazy. I was hoping we were going to head in the other direction.

There you go again with the crazy remarks. Like a typical woman, you get emotional and claim you don't understand.

Moses, what the fuck is wrong with you? .

This is a perfect example of how people get punched in the throat in a casino. Do let your mouth say what your body can't back up. When you were a big man on camp your said some condescending remarks regarding me and my family. Did you forget? Well, let me remind you. You wanted no part of me then and your certainly don't now. O I know, you'll claim ignorance. Volatility is when you watch 2 mil go away over the course of a year. It represents most of your life and you can't stop it. By comparison? Well this is no comparison to the few hundred that may be lost at a blackjack table. Plus one can always stop playing. There was no stopping this disaster. Yes, I was on the correct website. You, however, have since been on and thrown out of many.

I am not ryemo. I have no idea what he may or may not have said to you or you him and more importaly I don't care. NOT ONE BIT. Both 21forme and ryemo are my friends, on line that I sometimes communicate with privately about blackjack issues. We have similar view on blackjack. That doesn't mean I agree or even care what either say on non-blackjack discussion or arguments with you..

You are the one who went on a lengthy post followed by several others about Ryemo. Then you mentioned the mentor (or whatever.) You ask the question and I answered it. So I'm crazy because you're an idiot who can't understand or comprehend.

If you have some issue with either of them or anyone else, take it up with them.

O I will. Trust me. I WILL.

But right now. I think I'm back to having an issue with you and your mouth. Put up or shut up.

Clearly, all your handles have put you under suspicision. For you to write what you did about Norm in all those posts and various forums. Then go back under another handle and expect to be welcomed? And I'm the one who is crazy. I know, I know, KJ is always the victum...and it's someone elses fault.

[kewlJ]

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?


I don't know what universe you are in, but I am done with you. I tried to be nice and welcome you here. But you have proven, well I don't know WHAT you proven, but I want nothing more to do with you. I am done dealing with crazy people. I really am. I am willing to have discussions, even disagreements, about blackjack, gambling or even other non-related topic, but I am not going into crazyland any longer with anyone.

[monet]

I am done dealing with crazy people. I really am. I am willing to have discussions, even disagreements, about blackjack, gambling or even other non-related topic, but I am not going into crazyland any longer with anyone.

Here's to the crazy ones.

The misfits.
The rebels.
The troublemakers.
The round pegs in the square holes.
The ones who see things differently.
They're not fond of rules.
And they have no respect for the status quo.

You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them.
About the only thing you can't do is ignore them.

Because they change things.
They push the human race forward.
While some see them as the crazy ones, we see genius.

Because the people who are crazy enough to think
they can change the world, are the ones who do.

[Moses]

O no! BIG BOLD INK. Is that suppose to intimidate me like Flash's BLUE INK balderdash? You're a squirrel. Shut up and move on.

Clearly, reading through the posts on this forum, you throw a hissy fit anytime someone disagrees with you. You're already in crazyland and have been for years. Fake death? What a joke!

Discussions! O hell no. Let's idolize KJ - our Savior - for the last crazy he did and will do. THAT's what you WANT. THAT'S what you NEED. THAT's why you've been thrown off almost every forum that exists.

Hell, just today you bashed this forum and it's members as well as another forum (where you're still allowed to post) saying the owner was crazy. So let me get this straight. KJ is MR. PERFECT and everyone else is crazy? Except for his 1 1/2 friends who agree with him.

[kewlJ]

Moses I am banned at 2 forums.....2!

BJTF by Norm Wattenberger and WoV, when Norm showed up, bullied his friend Shackleford to ban me and has since disappeared again.

[Moses]

I don't know the story but this was what Norm said in response to BoSox...


Moses has been trying to warn you for days now about this situation. He recognized this problem well in advance.

Ps When does he get a parole board hearing?

Norm

He also accused me of doing vile things to children, made physical threats, and harassed me by phone and e-mail. He has a truth value of zero in my mind. Please don't bring up permanently banned members. They will have no voice here. Now, do you have a comment on the actual purpose of this thread?

Monet: I posted on another website about the trouble lurking on the horizon. Suggested Norm, nip it and start paying attention to his own damn forum. The thread went 200 posts before Norm moved it to the disadvantage forum, closed, ultimately moved the thread to the Subscription area. I made the prediction after post #2. Then Kjderman started a 2nd thread then went on forever. Norms claim he had no clue of the KJderman comeback. Norm may be alot of things. But he is not an idiot.

I didn't call Norm after he banned me. I called him after he banned two others as my socks. 1.) my lady friend who has met some of the APs that came to visit. She was in between jobs at the time and it gave her something to do. 2.) The other was a friend. Some of the guys I hang out with enjoyed reading the forum. I set him up with the email from my phone. Neither of them said anything wrong or deragatory. Flash bullied them like he has done to all new members for years. Especially the ones who don't accept his Hi Opt II count from the start. I stepped in when Flash started bullying them. Norm deleted those entire threads.

I did not accuse Norm of child molestation. I said in our phone conversation I'd read it several times on other forums. FWIW, I don't believe that to be the case. Physical threats? Norm was condescending in the way he banned me. Deleted posts where I was defending myself. He started down the condescending road during our phone converation. All I wanted was a written apology from both Norm and Flash admitting the truth. HE said, I was sad, very sad etc, etc. I did say, if he had the nuts to say those things face to face he'd be cleaning the crap running down the back of his leg. He hung up on me 3 times. I haven't called back since. Figure what's the point?

The reason I called Norm was because Flash was sending a blanket email to many of posters on BJTF and had many puppets, handles, socks or whatever you want to call them. In other words, he liked to fuck with people. Flash threatened me with physical violence from another poster. Later I learned his MO is to get drunk before posting and this was occuring more often. I responded. Don S had already answered my question. Flash's threat came the next morning out of nowhere. He did this quite often. Norm deleted the posts and banned me. I guess because I didn't back down from the threats and then wanted to know where, when etc.

I could easily access his email from this list and wrote him to see if he wanted a shot primarily because I didn't want to be looking over my shoulder. He did not want trouble. Nor did I. So it blew over. I know this Flash by name. He talked about Norm as though they were best buds. Norm claims he doesn't know him nor has he ever heard of this guy who made over 7,000 posts on his forum. With all the names on his email list, I wanted more info as would anyone else who'd been threatened.

[Moses]

I should see a doctor? I am talking to myself, making 20% of posts?

You fucking idiot! You are a fucking idiot. Just another bitter, angry asshole sitting in the corner babbling to himself.

Now really KJ. How many times do you intend to cuss at me on a forum? Because we both know in real life I would knock you on your ass. Seems all I really need to do is walk into El Cortez and look for Nancy-boy playing DD shoes? Yes, the one who is losing money and threatening to call his attorney might be a clue. So pull the panties out of your crack and try to have a civil discussion which is what you say you seek.

So getting back to your cheating claim. There are 32 cards with a tag value of 10 in a double deck. HiLO only accounts for 77% of the cards played. The 10s represent 31% of the total cards played and 40% in HiLO. It stands to reason you are going to see them come in groups at times througout a deck. Question is how much is too much? Mind you, I'm about the only one giving you a chance to explain your prophecy.

So these 10s come out in clusters of 4? 8? 16? or all 32 either at the top, middle, or bottom depending on who cuts. Now the Aces are strategically scattered with the low cards? or just so only the dealer can get a blackjack? Are you side counting the Aces? Are they 1 in every 13 cards?

How many 10s are played by the end of the deck? Do you know? Point is, you would know with a column count. But you are either guessing or side counting 10s, no? Plus since you are only tracking 77% of the cards played, you have no idea of the ratio between 10s vs cards played at the end or throughout the deck. Only the beginning which I just told you.

You are deck estimating so you wouldn't know exactly what is played and what still remains. So how do you intend to prove an imbalance of tens? The 4+ and 4- theory does not hold water. The rebuttal is simply, we don't allow card counters. So all you really have is this alleged magic chip. I know, I know you bought a shuffle machine, but obviously, don't know how to set it.

Now, I will admit I've seen some machine shuffle decks that make me go Hmmm. But that is far far better because it takes the hand shuffle away from the dealers. Thus mechanics can't hurt you.

[Moses]

Moses/Tater have you ever contributed one little once of worth while blackjack information. All your posts are about threatening folks. Okay you are probably a big dumb jock. Live by the sword. Die by the sword. You have not only threatened KJ, but also Norm and made many implied threats to folks over at BJTF. All your posts are about standing up and never backing down, never anything about blackjack.

Midwest player writes:

Moses replies: There was a time when I made many contributions to blackjack information. But it's a column count which reduces volatilty and risk while increasing the overall profit in shorter period of time. No one wants to hear it so I stopped talking about it. I remember you would speak of your travels. Folks put you down for it, so you stopped. Correct?

Now I've had players want to meet me, like Big Jer, who knows both Tater and myself. APs have contacted me from the East Coast. Came to home and visited for hours about blackjack. We went to dinner and had a very enjoyable day.

But you've got guy like KJ and Flash that impose their will on others. Use several different handles. Whatever they could do to deceive others. I simply called their bluff like many on this forum do. And they don't like it.

You may be right. I may die by the sword. But at least it will be for something that is good, right, and something I believe in.

Midwest Player: Have you ever walked across the street to help a young girl being robbed? Funny thing, when I did. Others followed.
How you ever stood at a crossing light while three thugs were ganging up on a teenage girl and her little sister? Everyone else crossed the street shaking their heads in disgust. The light changed twice while people passed by. I stayed. And when I heard them say we'll take you in the alley and it will be 3 on 2? I simply raised 3 fingers. The got my message. Then I waited with the girls for the parents to come.

I could go on with several stories as these are almost weekly occurances. Do get me wrong, I'm no hero. Sometimes I wish I could've looked the other way or walked across with the rest of the group. But I can't. I really don't know why.

[Moses]

Maybe you saw on the news recently were this guy shoved some one for yelling at his wife for being parked in a handicap parking spot. The guy pulled out a gun and blew him away. I'm not saying that was right, but it sounds like you are constantly looking for a fight. Someday you will meet your match. Remember, live by the sword, die by the sword.

Midwest player writes ^:

Moses replies: My friend Tater has been banned from that website. But here is his response.

I can't speak for Moses. But Tater can't get something out of my head. Maybe you can help. One night I was sitting in the sportsbook. This elderly gent was drunk and flashing his cash. These two punks befriended him. I knew they were going to rob him. I think I told myself he shouldn't have been flashing his cash in the first place.

Now, I could've easily wiped out those two punks. Moses would have IMO. But I went on about my own business. What I didn't know until the next day was they were going to beat him to a pulp. So you tell me Midwest Player. How do I GET THAT OUT OF MY HEAD?