Dan Druff

[Moses]

Maybe private porn movies...like you and a dog.and a homeless man

Have you been hanging out with those guys down by the river again? lol I'm just kidding you man.

[Half Smoke]

participating in a public forum on any subject is like shopping at a discount store
you have to wade through a ton of crap just to find one thing that interests you
if you participate some of the posts will make you angry or give you a headache
if you don't participate you might miss something useful

damned if you do, damned if you don't

[Moses]

This is simply KJ repeating old history. KJ, Ryemo, and 21Forme are birds of a feather at the very least. O you don't like it? Well, I'm right here.

Ryemo alleges to be this family man from Missouri who is an expert on Vegas. Now, I would guess most of us here have been family men at one time or another. I don't think anyone would argue it's the biggest challenge in the world. There is no time to be running off to Vegas 3 or 4 times a year. Supposedly, he has been booted out of every casino in his hometown. So he travels throughout the midwest to garner his HUGE profits that support his family because he gave up his job and business. But the casinos are few and about a 6 hour drive inbetween. Not too mention the weather. So my conclusion is the guy is either Barry Seal or KJ being stupid. Not like the latter hasn't happened several times before.

Coincidentally, 21Forme is some kind of a mentor to both KJ and Ryemo. But you never see them in direct conversation. They applaud and give +1s or +1000 for the approval rating of the post. 21Forme forte is to complain about just everything from too many to not enough posts. He is always talking about how much better the forum is that he just came from. Then, when challenged, he runs again to another forum and says he is never coming back. Then he is back in a few weeks repeating the process. He never had much to say to me other than I was on his ignore list which he would post the members in his signature. What a squirrel! No? Then, when I was banned, he had many things to say. Obviously, I couldn't respond. So I'm right here. What do you have to say now, blowhard?

21forme is one of KJs buddies in KJs eyes. Even nicknamed him Spidey in KJs latest Spiderman fiasco. Excuse me why I go throw up. But when things get rocky, as they always do with KJ, 21forme is the first to jump ship.

The most irritating part is they set themselves on this pedastal that they are somehow better than everyone else. Even KJs managed to make himself magnanimous and condecending to Dan in the OP.

Now we have a level playing field. Come and get it boys!

[AxelWolf]

Is 21Forme also on WOV? IIRC there was a guy with a similar name. He said that he did annoying stuff in order to run off the ploppys who were playing UX just so he could pick off their multipliers.

Cringeworthy at best.

[LarryS]

Lets face it...APs wont openly discuss their plays and angles. So of course there was no back and forth..exceptother APs telling him to shut the fuck up.
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You've got a good point Larry. But I never understood why some go to such extremes to make themselves sound magnanimous. Let me ask you.

If you were a pit boss making maybe $50K a year and supporting a family of 4. Those guys put in at least 40 hours a weeks and two weeks vacation annually is the norm. Now, you read a forum and some guy is boasting about knocking down 6 figures a year with very little effort, working mabe 10 hours a week How does that effect the next good player that comes into your vision and starts whupping your table?

thats right. If KJ wanted to , he could participate on these sites and enjoy the banter back and forth.....but the offer to have private messages for those who want to discuss, share, pick his brain.
He has said more than once that on WoV he liked to share his knowledge blah blah blah. Well he can do that privately unless he is into getting credit from the masses and his ego is just that needy.

He cried at GF that other AP friends of his ran away from that site because ofpeople like me or mr v. And guess what...when me and MrV left the site....the AP "friends" didnt show up. Its such bullshit to think that APs are going to openly discuss anything they do. In fact most would not want people to be reminded that they even exist.

Yet KJ thinks that if a few people were banned, then all of a sudden this site would be filled with AP discussions. Or that a bunch of wannabe APs will sit at his feet as he regales them with tips and stories.

aint gonna happen

[Moses]

Axelwolf. I don't know the posters at WOV. The only thing that would surprise me about 21forme would be if ever stood up for himself. I doubt this guy has the nuts. Of course, he might lie about it.

Excellent points LarryS. The only thing I could add is Ditto.

[AxelWolf]

Axelwolf. I don't know the posters at WOV. The only thing that would surprise me about 21forme would be if ever stood up for himself. I doubt this guy has the nuts. Of course, he might lie about it.

Excellent points LarryS. The only thing I could add i Ditto.

I know KJ is blaming some of the other so-called trolls here for his exit, but, I think it was really you who was the straw that BROKE the Camels BACK.


Sorry KJ, I couldn't resist that one.

[Moses]

Axelwolf. I don't know the posters at WOV. The only thing that would surprise me about 21forme would be if ever stood up for himself. I doubt this guy has the nuts. Of course, he might lie about it.

Excellent points LarryS. The only thing I could add i Ditto.

I know KJ is blaming some of the other so-called trolls here for his exit, but, I think it was really you who was the straw that BROKE the Camels BACK.


Sorry KJ, I couldn't resist that one.

I hope he comes back and brings his 1.5 AP friends wth him. We'll have a good old fashion hoedown.

[dannyj]

Why make a proclamation about leaving? Doesn’t do any good. Besides the drama you’d just look bad if and when you come back. Makes no sense.

[Moses]

Why make a proclamation about leaving? Doesn’t do any good. Besides the drama you’d just look bad if and when you come back. Makes no sense.

Good point. It seems the number of posts have actually increased since his tearful departure. This forum greatly exceeds the number of posts of several blackjack forums and is on pace with the top ones.

Great job Dan and members! Give yourselves a standing O. And KJ gets the clap.

That OP was the biggest EW since my dog ate grandma. Dan, you really need a throw up icon.

[MisterV]

And KJ gets the clap.

A dose of strong antibiotics should clear that right up.

[Moses]

And KJ gets the clap.

A dose of strong antibiotics should clear that right up.

LMAO

[mickeycrimm]

It's not just KJ that got trolled to death here. Redeitz is the most knowledgeable college football handicapper I've ever come into contact with and he had a track record to go with it. He got trolled to death here, mostly by Singer and Mendelson. He was a prolific poster. But if you care to notice, without announcing it, he is no longer posting here. Boz won't post here and told me why, trolls.

Alan laments about the old days and the bygone members. They were run off by his butt buddy, Rob Singer. To many good people do not want to be subjected to Rob's troll attacks. You can't respectfully disagree with Rob on anything. He will troll the shit out of you for doing so.

But the one thing that has put this site on a crash course with the trash heap is larrys showing up. This guy makes Singer look tame. Attack! Attack! Attack is all he knows. He adds no positive value to this forum. He takes every forum to the sewer, patrick's, gamblers glen, gambling forums, gamblingtalk, penaltybox. All laying in the trash heap. Don't worry. Larry will be around to explain that none of it was his fault and he was actually the most popular poster. LMAO! And he will have plenty of tired old false anecdotal bullshit to back his claim. That's how idiots like him are. Nothing is ever his fault. It's always someone else's fault.

Notice when Trump gets hit hard he hits back twice as hard. He learned that shit from me. No puke ass punk ass phony ass candy ass troll is going to get the best of me. When they hit me I hit them back twice as hard. I don't care for trolling. It should all go away. I don't go out of my way to do it. I've never fucked with anyone who hasn't fucked with me first. I've done my share of trolling here in response to the trolling done on me. If that's what the trolls want....instead of civil discourse, if the trolling is allowed to continue here, then let's troll the motherfucker down.

[Tasha]

Why make a proclamation about leaving? Doesn’t do any good. Besides the drama you’d just look bad if and when you come back. Makes no sense.

Sometimes there is a really good reason for leaving and then coming back soon. I remember a woman on an website being so full of rage she self deleted her account. After she calmed down she came back the very next day with a new account with a similar username and admitted she self deleted in rage and regretted it after she calmed down so she came back with new account.

[Moses]

I don't care for trolling. It should all go away. I don't go out of my way to do it. I've never fucked with anyone who hasn't fucked with me first..

Ditto. Excellent rule to live by.

[LarryS]

It's not just KJ that got trolled to death here. Redeitz is the most knowledgeable college football handicapper I've ever come into contact with and he had a track record to go with it. He got trolled to death here, mostly by Singer and Mendelson. He was a prolific poster. But if you care to notice, without announcing it, he is no longer posting here. Boz won't post here and told me why, trolls.

Alan laments about the old days and the bygone members. They were run off by his butt buddy, Rob Singer. To many good people do not want to be subjected to Rob's troll attacks. You can't respectfully disagree with Rob on anything. He will troll the shit out of you for doing so.

But the one thing that has put this site on a crash course with the trash heap is larrys showing up. This guy makes Singer look tame. Attack! Attack! Attack is all he knows. He adds no positive value to this forum. He takes every forum to the sewer, patrick's, gamblers glen, gambling forums, gamblingtalk, penaltybox. All laying in the trash heap. Don't worry. Larry will be around to explain that none of it was his fault and he was actually the most popular poster. LMAO! And he will have plenty of tired old false anecdotal bullshit to back his claim. That's how idiots like him are. Nothing is ever his fault. It's always someone else's fault.

Notice when Trump gets hit hard he hits back twice as hard. He learned that shit from me. No puke ass punk ass phony ass candy ass troll is going to get the best of me. When they hit me I hit them back twice as hard. I don't care for trolling. It should all go away. I don't go out of my way to do it. I've never fucked with anyone who hasn't fucked with me first. I've done my share of trolling here in response to the trolling done on me. If that's what the trolls want....instead of civil discourse, if the trolling is allowed to continue here, then let's troll the motherfucker down.

As in nature, survival of the fittest rukes here as well

people who take themselves too seriously might find a reason to leave. Look at KJ. he had poor survival skills. He couldnt take a joke and roll with it. He thought way too highly of himself as far as being a mentor and having people sit as his feet and soak in his knowledge. He blamed "trolls" for him not being able to do his mentoring. But the fact is....THERE IS NO ONE FUCKING HERE THAT WANTS TO BE MENTORED.

some poster the other day said that there is no way that I was highly educated because i was a "retard". So what. ...I just answered "you have a point". And thasts the difference between me and KJ.
kJ would have written a 2 paragraph response along with a request for Dan to ban the person. He would take that comment as a reason other APs dont come here and ask his advice.

I dont know why others including redietz give two hasbeens such WEIGHT. Alan M and singer are as insignificant n the gambling world as I am. And Alan comes across as a low IQ dunce. Thick as a brick

There is no one on this site that I admire so much that a cross word from them would make me upset.

And others should feel the same way. I dont see anyone here that carries any weight in my life.

But for KJ it seems there are plenty of people here that carry that weight

[monet]

If that's what the trolls want....instead of civil discourse, if the trolling is allowed to continue here, then let's troll the motherfucker down.

So Be It!

[LarryS]

MC scolding me about "civil discourse

now thats rich

[Moses]

people who take themselves too seriously might find a reason to leave. Look at KJ. he had poor survival skills. He couldnt take a joke and roll with it. He thought way too highly of himself as far as being a mentor and having people sit as his feet and soak in his knowledge. He blamed "trolls" for him not being able to do his mentoring. But the fact is....THERE IS NO ONE FUCKING HERE THAT WANTS TO BE MENTORED.

Well said. KJ. GODs gift to blackjack players. What a friggin joke.

[MisterV]

I'm not a BJ player but I found many of his BJ / AP posts to be quite informative.

Not sure if he felt he was "god's gift to blackjack players," though; I think he simply enjoyed trying to teach / instruct.

Plus how many AP's are making enough dough to support themselves and buy a home by card counting pretty much exclusively?

That counts for something (pun intended).