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  1. #1
    I'm going to put an end to the bullshit over the redietz package right now. And redietz is forcing me to do it.

    He never asked me to make the contents of his package public so why he makes a big deal over it is nothing less than him attacking me as a proxy for Rob Singer.

    I never doubted redietz and I told him it was ridiculous for him to send me his package.

    But now he and others attack me over his package so I am going to post two key screen shots of messages redietz sent me. Look and read for yourselves.

    Normally I wouldn't post these messages but this is extraordinary what's happened and I am forced to defend myself.
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  2. #2
    ok this explains why he wanted you to look at the stuff....and you wouldnt even do that. You looked it over by proxy. You looked it over via a person who doesnt post here, or had any contact with the sender.

    this makes you look like shit. You didnt even have the decency to look it over yourself.

    I dont care one way or the other about the credentials of redietz......no one fucking bit


    but when you say you didnt look it over because you dont understand sports betting......thats where I call bullshit.

    one has nothing to do with the other.

    i would have more respect for you if you said.....i dislike redietz and dont want to give him the time or effort....fuck him. Now thats something i could understand

  3. #3
    Fuck you LarryS. Redietz said it plain and simple. He didn't even care if I mentioned I got them. Then it all changed when he decided to attack me. So fuck you. He sent me the package and I received it and that's all I had to do. Later it was all about did I read the package? It was a fucking twist of the story. I never had to read the package. Why he sent it was pointless unless he was setting me up. And frankly I think he was setting me up.

    Now YOU ask redietz about his messages to me. And fuck off.

  4. #4
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Fuck you LarryS. Redietz said it plain and simple. He didn't even care if I mentioned I got them. Then it all changed when he decided to attack me. So fuck you. He sent me the package and I received it and that's all I had to do. Later it was all about did I read the package? It was a fucking twist of the story. I never had to read the package. Why he sent it was pointless unless he was setting me up. And frankly I think he was setting me up.

    Now YOU ask redietz about his messages to me. And fuck off.
    “I was just supposed to receive it, not actually read it”

    Lol, what a pile of bullshit if I’ve ever heard it....Alan would fuck a snake if he could crawl around on his stomach

  5. #5
    Hey keystone you asshole. Read what redietz wrote to me. Then ask him about it and fuck off.

  6. #6
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Hey keystone you asshole. Read what redietz wrote to me. Then ask him about it and fuck off.
    No, I don’t think I’ll read it...am just gonna receive it... LOL

  7. #7
    And in order to take those screen shots I had to take Mr R E Dietz off of ignore. So now I'll see exactly what he says and now I'm not going to be diplomatic and pull punches.

    This entire package situation was ridiculous from the get go and he even he admitted it. So why did he do it? Ask him. But to send me the package and say I didn't even have to say I got it but then condemn me over the package is total bullshit.

    READ HIS MESSAGES TO ME.

  8. #8
    Here's the first message from Dietz which was sent to me and to Dan. Dan ignored it. I wonder why? I said okay but I also told redietz it was ridiculous sending this. And if you read the second message above he acknowledged it was ridiculous. But read this initial message below. Then ask redietz how he at first just wanted someone to hold his docs to me being the bad guy for not discussing them publicly? Why the twist?

    And again I never doubted redietz but it appears he set me up to attack me. Read his original message now. Read it. Read it. And get off my ass.
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  9. #9
    At the time, when he sent that he may not have cared so much, however, as time went on and Rob kept up his shenanigans, Red now cared. We were all counting on you to do the right thing.

    Whatever the case, you could have just taken the time to look it over and report your findings. You have spent much more time, effort, and energy defending yourself regarding the package than it would have taken you to just look it over and make some type of a report. WHY NOT????? Perhaps you would have understood it, perhaps not. AT LEAST TAKE A LOOK.

    It seemed to us that you kept making one excuses after the next so you didn't have to shut down your buddy Rob. It seemed as if You wanted to leave Rob an opening so he could continue his BS.

    TBH I have no clue why he has a package all set up anyways.
    Last edited by AxelWolf; 08-02-2018 at 12:38 PM.

  10. #10
    Axel, why don't you direct your interrogation at redietz, who for some very strange and incriminating reason, kept on refusing to post anything at all about himself and instead claimed he put it into snail mail. He's the undeniably true snake in all of this. Anyone who's being honest about who and what they are in the gambling world would NEVER, EVER leave it up to someone else to tell their story.

    Redietz is and has always been a dishonest weasel, and the fact that he keeps trying to make this all about Alan would lead anyone with any type of formal education to easily see why he did this.

    Why does he have some stupid "all set up" anyways? Because he is nothing but a con man looking for other people to feed his sports betting habit.

  11. #11
    I donnt care about redietz and his accomplishments.

    But I do call BS on alan for using the excuse "I dont understand sports betting" as a reason he didnt read or report on the material.

    Now he changes his reasoning to "look at these 2 messages".

    when people change their story , its easy to call BS.

    Its like Alan saying that he stood and watched 18 yos in a row at an almost empty table...and didnt make a single 1 dollar bet on the yo.....because "I dont bet the center bets"

    total BS

  12. #12
    Natter on ye negative nabobs, natter on.
    What, Me Worry?

  13. #13
    Unrelated. Anyone who bets on any number that keeps coming up has no understanding about the properties of random occurrences.

    I understand what Alan chose to do, but you're forgetting that he changed his mind--a fundamental right. It would certainly be frustrating and concerning had he been the sole entity for releasing any pertinent information on said subject. But he wasn't and still isn't--redietz himself could have, should have, and still should post his own info. That's what any reasonable, truthful claimant would do. But you will never see anything of the sort from a liar like redietz. He instead enjoys seeing all of his silly sheep illogically and continually go after Alan for Alan's choice and redietz' refusal to post a thing.

  14. #14
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Unrelated. Anyone who bets on any number that keeps coming up has no understanding about the properties of random occurrences.
    Anyone who says they can tell when a video poker game is in a hot or cold streak based on cards they've seen come up has no understanding about the properties of random occurrences. Do you know anyone like that, Rob?
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  15. #15
    DOESNT MATTER.

    i am not talking about redietz becase he isnt here . So I am talking about alans behavior.

    your argument is that a kid gets in trouble with his mom for hitting his brother and the answer is.//"He started it"

    fuck reietz......axel outlined the issue at hand and i extraplated it with my own thoughts.

    this is just another example of alan fibbing and then trying to cover himself. FIRST he doesnt understand sports.....and then its here look at these messages.

    fucking pick an excuse and stay it.

    And as far as him not betting on the eleven 18 times in a row..........he witnesses not a once in a lifetime event......he witnessed a once in 1000s of lifetimes event......so you might realize it and stray fro your everyday activity. Even though you dont jaywalk...doesnt mean under the right conditions you might just jaywalk.

  16. #16
    Originally Posted by LarryS View Post
    DOESNT MATTER.

    i am not talking about redietz becase he isnt here . So I am talking about alans behavior.

    your argument is that a kid gets in trouble with his mom for hitting his brother and the answer is.//"He started it"

    fuck reietz......axel outlined the issue at hand and i extraplated it with my own thoughts.

    this is just another example of alan fibbing and then trying to cover himself. FIRST he doesnt understand sports.....and then its here look at these messages.

    fucking pick an excuse and stay it.

    And as far as him not betting on the eleven 18 times in a row..........he witnesses not a once in a lifetime event......he witnessed a once in 1000s of lifetimes event......so you might realize it and stray fro your everyday activity. Even though you dont jaywalk...doesnt mean under the right conditions you might just jaywalk.
    More arguing just for what looks like a need for something to do larry.

    It's completely irrelevant what you feel about how Alan handled this. What's relevant is why he's been saying he didn't post it, which apparently, you don't want to like. Either way, it was his choice for his reason, and in this country, that closes this case.

    No more excuses please on why you think Alan should have placed a bet on THE NEXT ROLL simply because of a just now extraordinary circumstance. You people rail on him when he makes any statement that might cause the bends to the AP community, yet now you can't believe he would pass up an opportunity to lose a bet because of past rolls.

    Strange.

  17. #17
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by LarryS View Post
    DOESNT MATTER.

    i am not talking about redietz becase he isnt here . So I am talking about alans behavior.

    your argument is that a kid gets in trouble with his mom for hitting his brother and the answer is.//"He started it"

    fuck reietz......axel outlined the issue at hand and i extraplated it with my own thoughts.

    this is just another example of alan fibbing and then trying to cover himself. FIRST he doesnt understand sports.....and then its here look at these messages.

    fucking pick an excuse and stay it.

    And as far as him not betting on the eleven 18 times in a row..........he witnesses not a once in a lifetime event......he witnessed a once in 1000s of lifetimes event......so you might realize it and stray fro your everyday activity. Even though you dont jaywalk...doesnt mean under the right conditions you might just jaywalk.
    More arguing just for what looks like a need for something to do larry.

    It's completely irrelevant what you feel about how Alan handled this. What's relevant is why he's been saying he didn't post it, which apparently, you don't want to like. Either way, it was his choice for his reason, and in this country, that closes this case.

    No more excuses please on why you think Alan should have placed a bet on THE NEXT ROLL simply because of a just now extraordinary circumstance. You people rail on him when he makes any statement that might cause the bends to the AP community, yet now you can't believe he would pass up an opportunity to lose a bet because of past rolls.

    Strange.
    Oh, come on dude. Let's think about this for a second. We all know how craps is played out. its kinda slow, its not like VP or slots where events happen in a flash.

    There had to be some build as the yo's were hitting. I would assume by the time 7, 8, 9 10, 11 hit in a row people were flabbergasted. YET NO ONE BET IT? At some point, one must believe there is something funny going on and they make a bet on it.

  18. #18
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by LarryS View Post
    DOESNT MATTER.

    i am not talking about redietz becase he isnt here . So I am talking about alans behavior.

    your argument is that a kid gets in trouble with his mom for hitting his brother and the answer is.//"He started it"

    fuck reietz......axel outlined the issue at hand and i extraplated it with my own thoughts.

    this is just another example of alan fibbing and then trying to cover himself. FIRST he doesnt understand sports.....and then its here look at these messages.

    fucking pick an excuse and stay it.

    And as far as him not betting on the eleven 18 times in a row..........he witnesses not a once in a lifetime event......he witnessed a once in 1000s of lifetimes event......so you might realize it and stray fro your everyday activity. Even though you dont jaywalk...doesnt mean under the right conditions you might just jaywalk.
    More arguing just for what looks like a need for something to do larry.

    It's completely irrelevant what you feel about how Alan handled this. What's relevant is why he's been saying he didn't post it, which apparently, you don't want to like. Either way, it was his choice for his reason, and in this country, that closes this case.

    No more excuses please on why you think Alan should have placed a bet on THE NEXT ROLL simply because of a just now extraordinary circumstance. You people rail on him when he makes any statement that might cause the bends to the AP community, yet now you can't believe he would pass up an opportunity to lose a bet because of past rolls.

    Strange.
    Oh, come on dude. Let's think about this for a second. We all know how craps is played out. its kinda slow, its not like VP or slots where events happen in a flash.

    There had to be some build as the yo's were hitting. I would assume by the time 7, 8, 9 10, 11 hit in a row people were flabbergasted. YET NO ONE BET IT? At some point, one must believe there is something funny going on and they make a bet on it.

    Exactly
    we all have "long run strategy". So...."i dont bet horn bets becasuse they are bad value".....is a fine strategy.
    However when out of the ordinary events occur....then for those 1 or 2 times in your life...its human nature to stray and adjust your strategy "on the fly".

    Putting a fucking dollar bill on an eleven when 10 have already been thrown in a row is human nature....it doesnt shatter your lifelong long term strategy. It puts you in the mix of a once in a lifetime event. And a craps player with years of play under their belt DOES recognize this as a once in a lifetime event. Imagine the story one could tell turning 1 dollar into 3k by letting it ride on 4 consecutive rolls.

    so the hionesty of alan is in question here as well in the initial response that the reason that he didnt view the 50 pages was because he dosent know about sports betting.

    Its all in the same line of dishonest BS..

  19. #19
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by LarryS View Post
    DOESNT MATTER.

    i am not talking about redietz becase he isnt here . So I am talking about alans behavior.

    your argument is that a kid gets in trouble with his mom for hitting his brother and the answer is.//"He started it"

    fuck reietz......axel outlined the issue at hand and i extraplated it with my own thoughts.

    this is just another example of alan fibbing and then trying to cover himself. FIRST he doesnt understand sports.....and then its here look at these messages.

    fucking pick an excuse and stay it.

    And as far as him not betting on the eleven 18 times in a row..........he witnesses not a once in a lifetime event......he witnessed a once in 1000s of lifetimes event......so you might realize it and stray fro your everyday activity. Even though you dont jaywalk...doesnt mean under the right conditions you might just jaywalk.
    More arguing just for what looks like a need for something to do larry.

    It's completely irrelevant what you feel about how Alan handled this. What's relevant is why he's been saying he didn't post it, which apparently, you don't want to like. Either way, it was his choice for his reason, and in this country, that closes this case.

    No more excuses please on why you think Alan should have placed a bet on THE NEXT ROLL simply because of a just now extraordinary circumstance. You people rail on him when he makes any statement that might cause the bends to the AP community, yet now you can't believe he would pass up an opportunity to lose a bet because of past rolls.

    Strange.
    Oh, come on dude. Let's think about this for a second. We all know how craps is played out. its kinda slow, its not like VP or slots where events happen in a flash.

    There had to be some build as the yo's were hitting. I would assume by the time 7, 8, 9 10, 11 hit in a row people were flabbergasted. YET NO ONE BET IT? At some point, one must believe there is something funny going on and they make a bet on it.
    And this is why you're nothing but yet another "seat of your pants" gambler for real, and a simple armchair gambling theorist the majority of the time. Just like the other boastful "AP's" here and at WoV, you continually show a lack of discipline and conviction whenever you people come face to face with a live and real situation. The hypocrisy is more than telling.

    No true-to-their-word AP would EVER stray from their "advantage play" belief because they see a slow moving game rack up a string of same rolls. Something funny going on? How many times have you and the ap neurotics claimed no casino would risk biasing any game? You people are so full of it, which us why you fight anyone who exposes the truth.

  20. #20
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post

    More arguing just for what looks like a need for something to do larry.

    It's completely irrelevant what you feel about how Alan handled this. What's relevant is why he's been saying he didn't post it, which apparently, you don't want to like. Either way, it was his choice for his reason, and in this country, that closes this case.

    No more excuses please on why you think Alan should have placed a bet on THE NEXT ROLL simply because of a just now extraordinary circumstance. You people rail on him when he makes any statement that might cause the bends to the AP community, yet now you can't believe he would pass up an opportunity to lose a bet because of past rolls.

    Strange.
    Oh, come on dude. Let's think about this for a second. We all know how craps is played out. its kinda slow, its not like VP or slots where events happen in a flash.

    There had to be some build as the yo's were hitting. I would assume by the time 7, 8, 9 10, 11 hit in a row people were flabbergasted. YET NO ONE BET IT? At some point, one must believe there is something funny going on and they make a bet on it.
    And this is why you're nothing but yet another "seat of your pants" gambler for real, and a simple armchair gambling theorist the majority of the time. Just like the other boastful "AP's" here and at WoV, you continually show a lack of discipline and conviction whenever you people come face to face with a live and real situation. The hypocrisy is more than telling.

    No true-to-their-word AP would EVER stray from their "advantage play" belief because they see a slow moving game rack up a string of same rolls. Something funny going on? How many times have you and the ap neurotics claimed no casino would risk biasing any game? You people are so full of it, which us why you fight anyone who exposes the truth.
    I never claimed no casino would ever risk their license. I have known casinos to cheat a various levels. The chances are, even if they get caught they would just be given a fine. In any case, if there was something funny going on it doesn't mean the casino was even in on it.

    Who do I fight for trying to expose the truth? I do think most cheating allegations are untrue. They are usually based on events that seem to look non-random, but in fact, they are random. People are programmed to notice patterns.

    It's not just the almost impossible odds of 18 YOs in a row, it's all of the others stuff surrounding his claim that makes it NOT TRUE. I know deep down not even you believe it actully happened, NO ONE DOES.

    Alan was trying to prove a point, he made up some number in his head and tossed it out there. At the time he didn't realize just how absurd his story was. He got called on it. I guess he felt as if he couldn't back down or everything he ever said would be called out. Unfortunately for him sticking to his claim turned out worst, this will haunt him on the forums forever and it will remain his online legacy.

    When anyone in the gambling community hears the name, Alan Mendelson they laugh inside thinking, oh ya, MR. 18 YO'S IN A ROW, what a joke.

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