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  1. #1
    Just thought I'd let you guys know. Shout out to all my doubters.

  2. #2
    Sup. I was walking through a casino the other night to grab some food and I was like wtf is that ZK? I almost wonged into your shoe that night. Obv I wasn’t going to, but considered it for the lulz.

    I tried to message you but it said you weren’t part of that group anymore.
    #FreeTyde

  3. #3
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    Sup. I was walking through a casino the other night to grab some food and I was like wtf is that ZK? I almost wonged into your shoe that night. Obv I wasn’t going to, but considered it for the lulz.

    I tried to message you but it said you weren’t part of that group anymore.
    Lol which one was it? Or do you not want to mention it, which is fine. I think I know which one it might have been.

    Yeah I left the discord after my rant. Oh well.

  4. #4
    Not gonna name it (neither should you) but it was near the super bowl party location. Hope you killed them for a lot. Pun intended.
    #FreeTyde

  5. #5
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    Not gonna name it (neither should you) but it was near the super bowl party location. Hope you killed them for a lot. Pun intended.
    That's what I figured. Yeah I won, but nothing crazy.

  6. #6
    Hi, Zenking! It's good to her from you!

  7. #7
    Someone catch me up on the wov version of ZK,

    i can already tell he loves attention, I mean with the name "king" and a "look at me I have arrived" THREAD, I can gather that much so far.

    we already have one resident" look at me" artist in Alan......we temporarily lost one with KJ......so its cool to get a replacement

  8. #8
    Originally Posted by LarryS View Post
    Someone catch me up on the wov version of ZK
    He finally moved out of his parent's home on the east coast in or near NJ and headed to sin city to seek his fame and fortune; he brought a $50K bankroll and a way too cocky attitude with him.

    The guy has stated more than once that he considers himself the greatest card counter in the world, or words to that effect: he and hubris are strangers.

    Never one not to praise himself or his card counting abilities he quickly polarized the WoV crowd: people either love or hate him.

    Very opinionated, vocal, headstrong and emotional: in other words perfect fodder.

    He has a soft spot for conspiracy theories, especially involving Chinese cards and cheating casinos.

    AP's love him, as he comes off like their goofy little brother; those who have met him say he is nothing like his gambling board personae, but I suspect they aren't a particularly good judge of character.

    LarryS., ZK would be a great fuck doll for you if he decides to hang around.
    What, Me Worry?

  9. #9
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    Originally Posted by LarryS View Post
    Someone catch me up on the wov version of ZK
    He finally moved out of his parent's home on the east coast in or near NJ and headed to sin city to seek his fame and fortune; he brought a $50K bankroll and a way too cocky attitude with him.

    The guy has stated more than once that he considers himself the greatest card counter in the world, or words to that effect: he and hubris are strangers.

    Never one not to praise himself or his card counting abilities he quickly polarized the WoV crowd: people either love or hate him.

    Very opinionated, vocal, headstrong and emotional: in other words perfect fodder.

    He has a soft spot for conspiracy theories, especially involving Chinese cards and cheating casinos.

    AP's love him, as he comes off like their goofy little brother; those who have met him say he is nothing like his gambling board personae, but I suspect they aren't a particularly good judge of character.

    LarryS., ZK would be a great fuck doll for you if he decides to hang around.
    there are 2 trains of thought.

    1- all you really need is one good fuck doll....ie stanton or alan
    2- you can never have enough fuck dolls

    I will see. I am not looking for a fight. Maybe he will calm down from his egocentric start. I am not familiar with him from WOV so I have no history with him or about him.

    It usually takes a while for someones personality to emerge. So far he accelerated the process.

  10. #10
    Originally Posted by LarryS View Post
    Maybe he will calm down from his egocentric start.
    Yeah, maybe I'll start shitting wads of $100 bills. That'd be nice, too.

  11. #11
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    Yeah, maybe I'll start shitting wads of $100 bills. That'd be nice, too.
    LMAO. Great line.

  12. #12
    If you were able to swallow wads of 100 dollar bills, then you would be able to shit them.

    Its possible.

    Or if you were abducted and sedated and had your colon cut open and had wads of 100 dollar buills inserted, and then you were closed up. Again you could indeed shit 100 dollar wads.


    both of those scenarios are more likely than 18 yos in a row which you felt the need to post on this site was a possible event.

    So I too can play that game

  13. #13
    WoV West lol

    I am not going to break down the WoV version of ZK but you should read his
    Moving out to Play and D Day in Vegas Threads to start...

    https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gamb...g-out-to-play/

    https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gamb...-day-in-vegas/
    Last edited by monet; 08-07-2018 at 07:15 AM.

  14. #14
    It would be nice to get some sort of rivalry thing going between WoV West vs. WoV.

    Something like Missions Football Picks Game where it is LVCT vs. WOV.

    We need WoV to ban more members and send them over here to WoV West.

  15. #15
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    It would be nice to get some sort of rivalry thing going between WoV West vs. WoV.

    Something like Missions Football Picks Game where it is LVCT vs. WOV.

    We need WoV to ban more members and send them over here to WoV West.
    I don't think ZenKing is Nuked, so he can still enter the game if he wants. He can let me know here if he wants to play and just PM me his picks here.

    I might ask Wizard if the banned Members from WoV who post here would be allowed in the game if anyone wants to play. The only difference is banned people would have to escrow the funds for their entries to me only because they would have no incentive to pay if they lose.

    If not, then we could always have a VCT Picks Game. I'll host it and the Rules will be the same. People who play in the WoV game and post on both sites could also play in the VCT Picks Game. If it's VCT only, we can decide an Entry Fee and it can be based on honor system.

    I will donate less to the VCT Picks Game, maybe just something small for the winner, because I imagine there will be fewer players. I think the WoV game will have 25-30 this year. If we can get up to ten players for the VCT Picks Game, then I will do a small contribution for first place and last place.

  16. #16
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    It would be nice to get some sort of rivalry thing going between WoV West vs. WoV.

    Something like Missions Football Picks Game where it is LVCT vs. WOV.

    We need WoV to ban more members and send them over here to WoV West.
    I don't think ZenKing is Nuked, so he can still enter the game if he wants. He can let me know here if he wants to play and just PM me his picks here.

    I might ask Wizard if the banned Members from WoV who post here would be allowed in the game if anyone wants to play. The only difference is banned people would have to escrow the funds for their entries to me only because they would have no incentive to pay if they lose.

    If not, then we could always have a VCT Picks Game. I'll host it and the Rules will be the same. People who play in the WoV game and post on both sites could also play in the VCT Picks Game. If it's VCT only, we can decide an Entry Fee and it can be based on honor system.

    I will donate less to the VCT Picks Game, maybe just something small for the winner, because I imagine there will be fewer players. I think the WoV game will have 25-30 this year. If we can get up to ten players for the VCT Picks Game, then I will do a small contribution for first place and last place.
    I swear 97% of all members on these gambling forums are the cheapest people I know of.

    I will make a verbal bet with you and put the money in your paypal account if you take this bet which is in your favor.

    I will send you 300 dollars for the VCT Picks Game because Hell will Freeze over before you get that Wizard to agree that banned members can play in your WoV game!
    300 Dollars is almost half of what that prick is begging for on his Diversity site... Diversity is ironic because I see nothing diverse about how he runs things.

    Anyways I put up 300 in your Pay Pal account and you make the rules on how players are paid.

    The only catch is... if I win the contest outright or I have the worst record I win double. Meaning I win my money back plus you pay me 300 on top of it, plus I win whatever the placement was for 1st or last.
    Ties in placement count for me but I have to play every week meaning if I miss one week I forfeit any chance of winning.

  17. #17
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Anyways I put up 300 in your Pay Pal account and you make the rules on how players are paid.

    The only catch is... if I win the contest outright or I have the worst record I win double.
    I'll match monet's contribution under the same terms.

  18. #18
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    I swear 97% of all members on these gambling forums are the cheapest people I know of.
    .
    Monet; An interesting contrast between a couple of guys that I'll have a beer with and watch a game. One is in his 80s, probably an M followed by some x's a few times. He won't tip. Loves all the free stuff. IF he ever bought something for himself, I'd be shocked, let alone someone else. He could have a fancy lifestyle but lives very conservatively. Personally, I think he's figured a way either to take it with him or not go at all.

    The other is in his early 50's. Not a nickel to his name. But money comes and goes through his fingers all day long. But he gives it away. He could care less about the free stuff.

    Both have a great outlook on life, hilarious, and intelligent in their own way.

    Ironic, they are the best of friends. I think there is a life lesson to be learned. But I'll be damned if I can figure it out.

  19. #19
    Originally Posted by monet View Post

    I swear 97% of all members on these gambling forums are the cheapest people I know of.
    For contributing a non-zero amount of free money to a game I take the time to run?

    I will send you 300 dollars for the VCT Picks Game because Hell will Freeze over before you get that Wizard to agree that banned members can play in your WoV game!
    300 Dollars is almost half of what that prick is begging for on his Diversity site... Diversity is ironic because I see nothing diverse about how he runs things.

    Anyways I put up 300 in your Pay Pal account and you make the rules on how players are paid.

    The only catch is... if I win the contest outright or I have the worst record I win double. Meaning I win my money back plus you pay me 300 on top of it, plus I win whatever the placement was for 1st or last.
    Ties in placement count for me but I have to play every week meaning if I miss one week I forfeit any chance of winning.
    Wait a minute, how is that double? That seems like it would be more than double if I make the prizes for first or last more than $0.00.

    Anyway, it's just supposed to be a fun little game.

    Also, say only five people play and I make the prize all $300 for first place:

    Monet: First Place = $600 Last Place = $300 (of my money) No Place = $0

    (1/5 * 600) + (1/5 * (300) - (3/5 * 300) = 0

    Therefore, that's a $0 expectation for you with five players. It's a losing proposition for me, though, because here's what could happen, I could either win:

    (300 * 1/5) = $60

    I could lose and you come in last place:

    (4/5) - (1/4 * 300) = -$74.20

    I could lose and you come in first place:

    (4/5) - (1/4 * 600) = -$149.20

    Or, I could lose and you do not place:

    (4/5) * (2/4 * 0) = 0

    Therefore, my overall personal expectation is $60 - $223.40 = -$163.40

    Do you think I'm stupid? You have a $0 expectation and my expectation is to lose more than I'm even donating to the WoV pool?

    Adding more players would change my expectation, but all it would do is make it more negative. The reason why is because I can only win the $300 if I contribute it all to one prize and win that prize outright. Other than that, I can only break even or lose.
    Last edited by Mission146; 08-07-2018 at 03:38 PM.

  20. #20
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    Originally Posted by monet View Post

    I swear 97% of all members on these gambling forums are the cheapest people I know of.
    For contributing a non-zero amount of free money to a game I take the time to run?

    I will send you 300 dollars for the VCT Picks Game because Hell will Freeze over before you get that Wizard to agree that banned members can play in your WoV game!
    300 Dollars is almost half of what that prick is begging for on his Diversity site... Diversity is ironic because I see nothing diverse about how he runs things.

    Anyways I put up 300 in your Pay Pal account and you make the rules on how players are paid.

    The only catch is... if I win the contest outright or I have the worst record I win double. Meaning I win my money back plus you pay me 300 on top of it, plus I win whatever the placement was for 1st or last.
    Ties in placement count for me but I have to play every week meaning if I miss one week I forfeit any chance of winning.
    Wait a minute, how is that double? That seems like it would be more than double if I make the prizes for first or last more than $0.00.

    Anyway, it's just supposed to be a fun little game.

    Also, say only five people play and I make the prize all $300 for first place:

    Monet: First Place = $600 Last Place = $300 (of my money) No Place = $0

    (1/5 * 600) + (1/5 * 300) - (3/5 * 300) = $0.00

    Therefore, that's an Even Money proposition for you with five players. It's a losing proposition for me, though, because here's what could happen, I could either win:

    (300 * 1/5) = $60

    I could lose and you come in last place:

    (4/5) - (1/4 * 300) = -$74.20

    I could lose and you come in first place:

    (4/5) - (1/4 * 600) = -$149.20

    Or, I could lose and you do not place:

    (4/5) * (2/4 * 0) = 0

    Therefore, my overall personal expectation is $60 - $223.40 = $163.40

    Do you think I'm stupid? You have a break even expectation and my expectation is to lose more than I'm even donating to the WoV pool?

    Adding more players would change my expectation, but all it would do is make it more negative. The reason why is because I can only win the $300 if I contribute it all to one prize and win that prize outright. Other than that, I can only break even or lose.
    Set it up better or more fair for you.

    Make a minimum number of players.

    Make it so that if you win or get last place than I double up.

    You are the man with the big IQ... make it so you have a slight edge and I will pony up/up front.
    You forget that I am giving up the money first and technically you could just run away

    You get all the glory of running this thing and having your name on it... you love that.

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