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  1. #81
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    It would be nice to get some sort of rivalry thing going between WoV West vs. WoV.

    Something like Missions Football Picks Game where it is LVCT vs. WOV.

    We need WoV to ban more members and send them over here to WoV West.
    I don't think ZenKing is Nuked, so he can still enter the game if he wants. He can let me know here if he wants to play and just PM me his picks here.

    I might ask Wizard if the banned Members from WoV who post here would be allowed in the game if anyone wants to play. The only difference is banned people would have to escrow the funds for their entries to me only because they would have no incentive to pay if they lose.

    If not, then we could always have a VCT Picks Game. I'll host it and the Rules will be the same. People who play in the WoV game and post on both sites could also play in the VCT Picks Game. If it's VCT only, we can decide an Entry Fee and it can be based on honor system.

    I will donate less to the VCT Picks Game, maybe just something small for the winner, because I imagine there will be fewer players. I think the WoV game will have 25-30 this year. If we can get up to ten players for the VCT Picks Game, then I will do a small contribution for first place and last place.
    As you can read for yourself on these quotes Mission was willing to host and run a VCT Picks Game. He wanted the rules to be the same and was willing to donate less money to the VCT Picks Game.

    I came in next and offered to put in 300 dollars if Mission agreed to a side bet.

    Mission ran the numbers and said the bet wasn't even close to fair.
    Mission did not run the numbers with the X Factor of how I have to get my picks in every week.
    If I missed one week I would forfeit any chance of winning and the 300 would stay in the Prize Pool.
    I know that I have a 99% chance of missing a week... perhaps even a 100% chance of missing a week.
    There is no way that I am going to be able to get my picks in for 18 or 19 weeks in a row and most likely I am going to just randomly pick my picks.
    This is a main problem with Math Guys vs. Street Guys... The Math Guys can see the numbers but they can't size up the real world situation of the problem.
    They aren't able to know what certain people will do or how to calculate it.

    Two Minutes after Mission Posted the Math and that I was calling him stupid I agreed and asked him to adjust the rules and gave him the chance to give himself a small edge in the bet.

    He refused that offer and told me that even if I gave the money with no stipulations that he would still tell me to Fuck Off!

    We negotiated after that and I said I would donate 500 dollars to the Prize Pool for the VCT Game with the only stipulation that I send him the money directly because I trust him and he knows what he is doing running these games and has a long track record in this arena. I thought it might be fun for the forum over here to get involved in a FREE SHOT at some money. He could of made it winner take all or broke down the prize money however he wanted.

    So now he is too scared for me to send him the money directly because I must be up to some sort of underhanded mischief.
    So he agrees but I have to send the money to Dan Druff and Mission146 will not be participating in the game.

    I refuse to those terms

    I honestly do not understand how hard it is when someone says they are going to give you 500 dollars with no strings attached to just agree but these guys make it complicated and difficult.
    Mission146 thinks I am giving him the money and keeps saying that he doesn't want my money.
    The truth is I wasn't giving him money. I was giving him money to put into a prize pool for a VCT Picks game that the VCT community could enjoy a chance at winning.
    I certainly wasn't giving him money for him. However I would of broke him off some dough if he needed some sort of fee for his time and his hard work in organizing the game.

    The truth is I would of gone all the way up to 1000 dollars and sent it immediately for the game but many times it is difficult to give free money away.
    Recently I had a lawyer instruct me to just spend this certain money that I have so that I do not have to worry about a legal situation.
    I tried to explain that it isn't so easy to spend that kind of money and the money keeps growing. Every time I talk to these lawyers they put me in a Catch22 situation.
    Something like sure you can own this or that but you can't do this or that with it. Fucking Lawyer double and triple talk.

    Reminds me of Brewster's Millions... it really is that hard to spend large sums of money.
    A friend of mine paid $24,000 cash for a brand new 2016 car. The dealer did an IRS suspicious activity form on him. BTW, the money was made hustling machines without getting a single W2-G. That's how it is in Montana, no W2-G's.
    Hate crime hoaxes? The left's demand for biggots greatly exceeds the supply.

  2. #82
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    A friend of mine paid $24,000 cash for a brand new 2016 car. The dealer did an IRS suspicious activity form on him. BTW, the money was made hustling machines without getting a single W2-G. That's how it is in Montana, no W2-G's.
    At that price, he could have gotten like 40 premium juicers at $600 each instead.
    #FreeTyde

  3. #83
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    Originally Posted by Mission146 View Post
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    It would be nice to get some sort of rivalry thing going between WoV West vs. WoV.

    Something like Missions Football Picks Game where it is LVCT vs. WOV.

    We need WoV to ban more members and send them over here to WoV West.
    I don't think ZenKing is Nuked, so he can still enter the game if he wants. He can let me know here if he wants to play and just PM me his picks here.

    I might ask Wizard if the banned Members from WoV who post here would be allowed in the game if anyone wants to play. The only difference is banned people would have to escrow the funds for their entries to me only because they would have no incentive to pay if they lose.

    If not, then we could always have a VCT Picks Game. I'll host it and the Rules will be the same. People who play in the WoV game and post on both sites could also play in the VCT Picks Game. If it's VCT only, we can decide an Entry Fee and it can be based on honor system.

    I will donate less to the VCT Picks Game, maybe just something small for the winner, because I imagine there will be fewer players. I think the WoV game will have 25-30 this year. If we can get up to ten players for the VCT Picks Game, then I will do a small contribution for first place and last place.
    As you can read for yourself on these quotes Mission was willing to host and run a VCT Picks Game. He wanted the rules to be the same and was willing to donate less money to the VCT Picks Game.

    I came in next and offered to put in 300 dollars if Mission agreed to a side bet.

    Mission ran the numbers and said the bet wasn't even close to fair.
    Mission did not run the numbers with the X Factor of how I have to get my picks in every week.
    If I missed one week I would forfeit any chance of winning and the 300 would stay in the Prize Pool.
    I know that I have a 99% chance of missing a week... perhaps even a 100% chance of missing a week.
    There is no way that I am going to be able to get my picks in for 18 or 19 weeks in a row and most likely I am going to just randomly pick my picks.
    This is a main problem with Math Guys vs. Street Guys... The Math Guys can see the numbers but they can't size up the real world situation of the problem.
    They aren't able to know what certain people will do or how to calculate it.

    Two Minutes after Mission Posted the Math and that I was calling him stupid I agreed and asked him to adjust the rules and gave him the chance to give himself a small edge in the bet.

    He refused that offer and told me that even if I gave the money with no stipulations that he would still tell me to Fuck Off!

    We negotiated after that and I said I would donate 500 dollars to the Prize Pool for the VCT Game with the only stipulation that I send him the money directly because I trust him and he knows what he is doing running these games and has a long track record in this arena. I thought it might be fun for the forum over here to get involved in a FREE SHOT at some money. He could of made it winner take all or broke down the prize money however he wanted.

    So now he is too scared for me to send him the money directly because I must be up to some sort of underhanded mischief.
    So he agrees but I have to send the money to Dan Druff and Mission146 will not be participating in the game.

    I refuse to those terms

    I honestly do not understand how hard it is when someone says they are going to give you 500 dollars with no strings attached to just agree but these guys make it complicated and difficult.
    Mission146 thinks I am giving him the money and keeps saying that he doesn't want my money.
    The truth is I wasn't giving him money. I was giving him money to put into a prize pool for a VCT Picks game that the VCT community could enjoy a chance at winning.
    I certainly wasn't giving him money for him. However I would of broke him off some dough if he needed some sort of fee for his time and his hard work in organizing the game.

    The truth is I would of gone all the way up to 1000 dollars and sent it immediately for the game but many times it is difficult to give free money away.
    Recently I had a lawyer instruct me to just spend this certain money that I have so that I do not have to worry about a legal situation.
    I tried to explain that it isn't so easy to spend that kind of money and the money keeps growing. Every time I talk to these lawyers they put me in a Catch22 situation.
    Something like sure you can own this or that but you can't do this or that with it. Fucking Lawyer double and triple talk.

    Reminds me of Brewster's Millions... it really is that hard to spend large sums of money.
    Let's ignore for a second that you could claim to transmit me the money without actually doing so while putting together semi-believable evidence that you had just to make me look bad.

    Ignoring that:

    1.) You take Axel and ZK to the pool hall, drop money on drinks and then I get to read dozens of posts about Axel's propensity for drinking, how you did it with no expectation of anything in return, how ZK hasn't given you anything in return and how you got some info about a play from Axel.

    2.) You take BBB out and take care of her hotel room, then I get to read dozens of posts just completely trashing her.

    3.) You offered to donate money to the game, which I declined, and look at the length of the post you made above about it.

    So, long story short is I see how you treat and deal with people who you could be perceived as having done a favor. No thank you.

    That said, if you ever want to meet, I'll meet up with you and we can play a bartop progressive. The drinks will be free and we're each responsible for our own tips.

  4. #84
    ZK is the greatest blackjack player who ever lived. just ask him. he'll tell you.
    he hasn't yet claimed to be the greatest gambler who ever lived but that's probably coming.

    he admits that others have made more money (lots and lots and lots more but he doesn't say that) but that doesn't at all disqualify him from being the greatest.
    it's his style that makes him the greatest.
    Of course what I'm saying is true. I saw it ON THE INTERNET.

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