My free play results

[coach belly]

Alan's results lifetime, are him losing hundreds of thousands of dollars at casinos.

Have you ever considered that Alan's public claim
may be meant to thwart the efforts of ex-wives and their attorneys?

When are you meeting Singer for his bet?

[monet]

Alan's results lifetime, are him losing hundreds of thousands of dollars at casinos.

Have you ever considered that Alan's public claim
may be meant to thwart the efforts of ex-wives and their attorneys?

When are you meeting Singer for his bet?

Wow everything you stated or speculated sounds very unethical for a guy who made a living off of investigative journalism.
I guess guys like coach belly and mendlebread aren't as ethical as they appear.

Singer would never pay off if he lost.

[coach belly]

I am happy for his children and anyone else who can benefit from his windfall.

How about you? When are you meeting Singer for his bet?

Maybe you can get your kids something nice with that windfall,
or maybe pick up a bunch of those juicers and give them out to the homeless
on the street.

That would be a nice gesture, and would give you something different to write about.

[jbjb]

Alan's results lifetime, are him losing hundreds of thousands of dollars at casinos.

Have you ever considered that Alan's public claim
may be meant to thwart the efforts of ex-wives and their attorneys?

When are you meeting Singer for his bet?

And their attorneys can just as easily subpoena all of his financial information from casinos.

As for Singer, I want idiots to believe his bullshit. Same goes for any other stupid system gambler.

[tableplay]

AKJ offsuit... you know it is the variance and he wants the best way to get his dollar and a quarter back.
Or get the dollar and a quarter from Red Rock Casino.
I guess that is a Book Play!?

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Also, we have our answer after the 1 minute mark (1:35) that he holds AJ offsuit over the lone Ace or the correct J 10 Suited.
He fooled me. I thought he would just hold the Lone Ace For Sure.
I guess that is a Book Play!? Jon Ho used to tell me all the time: I read Book, I know Book Play.

Yes I guessed wrong about the lone Ace too. He needs to burn the Grochowski book IMHO.

I was looking up that AKJ Rainbow play, just cause.
I found it funny that the Lone Jack beats AKJ Rainbow when you have no penalties against the Jack it seems!!
So in his hand he had an 8 and that is a straight penalty so he played it correct over just playing the Lone Jack this time!

What's funny is that the KJ hold actually has a slightly higher chance of being non-losing than the rainbow JAK (37.23% versus 37.00%) - so not only is it a worse play EV-wise, but also avoiding-a-loss-wise. LOL

[AxelWolf]

Basically, Alan has no clue what he is doing, even after he said he knows the game 99% perfect. When he is called on it he just makes up some BS about it being in Grochowski's book to play that way. Again it's just Alan getting caught in a lie and then doing whatever he can to cover up the truth. Can anyone confirm that bullshit Alan is claiming is even in Grochowski's book? I would guess that Alan misunderstood what was being said in the book. Even then, it seems as if he isn't even using a "best chance of a pay" strategy correctly either.

Also take note to how long it took him(a guy who has been playing VP for years) to notice there was no hold when he had nothing but a few card that looked ast if they might have a str8 possibility, this is the same guy that claimed 18 yo's in a row happend. I can't imagine he could accuratly count them himself after seeing that. He claims the dealers counted but perhaps he miss heard what they were saying and he was confused. Na, he just made the shit up like he is making up the fact that he knew BP VP strategy 99% perfect.

[quahaug]

I think two high cards has the best chance of being resolved as a winning hand. I always play that in multi strike on the bottom regardless of the other cards on a non paying hand.

[mickeycrimm]

Somehow I didn't realize this was a new thread, figured it was an old thread because it jumped me to page 5 or whatever...so I thought this was an old thread. I'm surprised no one caught this, though:

This discussion is similar to the one about odds in craps. Sure your passline odds in craps have zero house advantage but they only have about a 64% chance of winning.

Where do you come up with this nonsense?

That is not nonsense. The chance of a passline bet winning is 64%. And that includes the odds portion of the bet.

You were a craps dealer, right? You know that the chance of winning is different from the house edge, right? The house edge on the "odds portion" is zero, but the house still has a greater chance of winning each and every time.

Everywhere you look on the internet it says the house has a 1.4% advantage on an even money passline bet. That means the player is at 98.6%. For every $100 the player puts in action the house is also putting $100 into action. That's a combined wager of $200.

98.6/200 = 49.3%

So the player's chance of winning each individual passline bet is 49.3%

[tableplay]

I think two high cards has the best chance of being resolved as a winning hand. I always play that in multi strike on the bottom regardless of the other cards on a non paying hand.

yes that's right (obviously I am assuming you are referring to non-wild card draw poker derivatives).

[monet]

I think two high cards has the best chance of being resolved as a winning hand. I always play that in multi strike on the bottom regardless of the other cards on a non paying hand.

yes that's right (obviously I am assuming you are referring to non-wild card draw poker derivatives).

The next time you play Multi-Strike, if you have the volume on, when you get the Free Ride and you hear the music, keep saying this...

You Can't Win.

That Chant goes right along with the music.

You could change the words to something more positive but this is a personal inside joke when that game first came out and a pal I know loved to play it.

One funny story is that his father used to play it on his own and didn't know the Strategy.
He ended up making a Royal on the top line for 8 grand.
After that night he used to tell me that he was going to go play "Strike it Rich!"
He never called it Multi-Strike again!! LOL... Strike it Rich!

Just to keep things real and in perspective, that old man passed away of a Brain Tumor around the age of 72 in 2007.
He went into the Microwave and didn't make it much longer after that.
His Son was busy running up 200k in Reno and Mesquite at the same time.

[AxelWolf]

I think two high cards has the best chance of being resolved as a winning hand. I always play that in multi strike on the bottom regardless of the other cards on a non paying hand.

OK, so now you have something to talk about and a legit reason why someone might want to learn a "most likely to get your money back strategy"


Even then, there is a correct play given the paytable and game feature. No doubt Alan would fuck up any strategy no matter what the main goal was.

[tableplay]

I think two high cards has the best chance of being resolved as a winning hand. I always play that in multi strike on the bottom regardless of the other cards on a non paying hand.

yes that's right (obviously I am assuming you are referring to non-wild card draw poker derivatives).

The next time you play Multi-Strike, if you have the volume on, when you get the Free Ride and you hear the music, keep saying this...

You Can't Win.

That Chant goes right along with the music.

You could change the words to something more positive but this is a personal inside joke when that game first came out and a pal I know loved to play it.

One funny story is that his father used to play it on his own and didn't know the Strategy.
He ended up making a Royal on the top line for 8 grand.
After that night he used to tell me that he was going to go play "Strike it Rich!"
He never called it Multi-Strike again!! LOL... Strike it Rich!

Just to keep things real and in perspective, that old man passed away of a Brain Tumor around the age of 72 in 2007.
He went into the Microwave and didn't make it much longer after that.
His Son was busy running up 200k in Reno and Mesquite at the same time.

Another crazy thing about Multi-Strike is that Larry Demar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_DeMar), who is an extraordinary pinball software programmer (The Addam's Family sold over 20000 units) and designer founded LED (Leading Edge Design) and through this company, he invented Multi-Strike vp which so many people love to play. I had no idea that Larry was behind LED and multistrike when I first encountered Multi-strike. I have played thousands of games on The Addam's Family pinball and it was quite funny and coincidental to find out he also made multi-strike. I believe LED also is his initials in addition to the company name.

[Dan Druff]

These guys are lost causes.

But on the bright side, he could've just picked a random slot machine, which would've been worse then the bad play in this video.

I can't see how you are wrong... No reason to really try to talk or teach these guys anything. They don't give a shit and they just like to argue.

When a guy doesn't want to change the incorrect strategy because he learned the wrong strategy how can you help him?
Even after he knows the math and how bad it is he isn't going to change it because that isn't the way he learned it!

This is like how those BJ players stand on 16 all the time vs a 10 and they say I don't want to bust.
I want to give the dealer the chance to bust.

Standing versus hitting on a 16 versus a T, without knowledge of the count, is essentially a toss-up.

So that's a bad example.

You should have said a 14 versus a T.

[kewlJ]

Dan is correct. 16 vs 10 is a bad example.

I stand on all 16 vs 10's. It's called card counter's basic strategy.

[Dankyone]

So in ANY positive count it is correct to stand on 16 vs 10, no?

[kewlJ]

So in ANY positive count it is correct to stand on 16 vs 10, no?

That is correct. Standing is the correct play on all positive counts , including all counts with anything larger than minimum wager out. It is the incorrect play on negative counts, all of which only the minimum wager is out. Since I do not even play many negative counts standing is the correct play most of the rounds that I play.

In addition, 16 vs 10 is one of the bigger tells of a card counter, being that CC's play it differently depending on the count. Because it is a common hand, it is rather easy to see. So standing all the time is very inexpensive cover.

[Dankyone]

Many ploppy type players stand on the hand too, in fact they waver over it trying to decide what to do. It does seem to come up quite often.

I think Bryce Carlson’s book says to always stand as a cover play, now that I think through it that makes sense if you are standing with bigger bets out in positive counts.

[monet]

Dan is correct. 16 vs 10 is a bad example.

I stand on all 16 vs 10's. It's called card counter's basic strategy.

Most of you say that God does not exist.
I believe that this proves that God does exist.
It only took over a year but Dan and kewlJ taught me something I didn't know.
This is why I usually don't get out of my depth and Pit Play is out of my depth.
I shall return back to the shallow end of the Pool now.

Thanks to kewlJ for another tidbit as well that he posted on the Stations Casinos.
Since it has been a long time since I played at Wild Fire, Barleys or Wild Wild West I forgot or didn't realize they send separate mailers.
The last time I was in those places they had some progressives that were set wrong and an advantage to the players.
Perhaps I should check in on them. The last time I checked they did have progressives that could be playable eventually.

[kewlJ]

Thanks for the kind words monet. But I am afraid I must correct you again. Card counting is the shallow end of the pool. What you and some of the other machine guys do is the deep end.

[Dan Druff]

Playing "feelings" in blackjack is idiotic, and will cost you money in the long run.

However, if you want to play by feeling, and you're not a card counter, then you can choose any of the following spots, and it basically won't cost you any money:

16 versus 10
13 versus 2
12 versus 4