Interview with an AP

[quahaug]

Rob, would you take a bet stipulating that you would win at least 8 of 10 sessions, play 10 sessions, and have a profit after 10 sessions?

[mickeycrimm]

I play my strategy with a $57,200 bankroll each session, I guarantee I'll win at least 8 out Of 10 sessions (defined as at least $2500 minimum net profit each session) and I'll do it for a bet of $25,000 plus the total amount I either win or lose.

Why hasn't anyone taken you up on this?

Didn't acrid's simulations mathematically prove that what you guarantee above
will not happen?

What's holding your detractors back from taking an easy $25K + from you?

I would think at least 6 of them would step up and accept your challenge.

Can you explain why they have not?

Its already been explained. Rob has made lots of propositions in 15 years. He keeps doing the two-step until you quit trying to take the bet. No one has been able to pin him down on a money bet yet. Arci pinned him down on an honor bet and Rob welshed it. Who wants to deal with a slug like that? Why don't you take the bet?

[mickeycrimm]

Certainly....but the Martingale label is wrong. Does Martingale go down in denomination multiple levels as often as it goes up? And imagine how much profit those minimum 8 winning sessions of at least $2500 will tally out to if a few of them are in five figures. Like $10k to $99k. Also remember, if you're inclined to claim the 1 or 2 losses, if that, will be $57200 each, you're way off and do not understand the strategy. The avg. session loss is between $3k and $4k.

So what say you mickey Teams?

It's easy money....for me. And it's exactly why none of the mensas ever want a part of it. They prefer to sit back in their armchairs and cowardly denigrate the strategy. They couldn't stand it if that were to end right before their eyes.

yes, a marty does go down about as often as it goes up.

Dumb answer.

Bet 1, lose. Bet 2, lose. Bet 4, lose. Bet 8, lose. Bet 16, lose. Bet 32, win.
Bet 1.
That's 5 up and 1 down mickey.

Care to study Martingale a little more carefully before sounding stupid again?

How often do you lose a passline bet five times in a row? Care to study martingale a little more carefully before looking stupid again?

[redietz]

Of course there is sling, and while redietz is trying very hard to show how much he doesn't know, he predictably ducked the real reason this and that collection of "big deal" ap's thus far have never wanted anything to do with betting against the SPS: they know how likely it is that I win at least 8 out Of 10, and even more terrifying to them is how much I'll win overall after playing all ten sessions.

Red puts his spin on the challenge but all he's doing is projecting cowardice. There are no "moving conditions" unless someone wants to poo it a cap on the bet at $100k or more I suppose. But for him to list that as some kind of non-starter only goes to show what a small dick he has....I mean, small bankroll. And if he believed in the late and despicable arci's phony and unknowledgable sims having the ten sessions being a "loser overall" then the coward would step up to the plate right now.

I'm completely lost on this response. Arci's simulations said Argentino/Singer would win more than 8 out of 10 sessions. I thought the proposed wager was that he win 8 out of 10 sessions. So if I agree with arci's simulations, I would be stepping up to the plate to bet ON winning 8 out of 10 sessions.

Or is Rob suggesting that the proposed wager is actually about overall winning or losing money for the 10 sessions combined? I didn't read it that way. I wish he'd make up his mind regarding what the wager is supposed to be.

[mickeycrimm]

No true SUCCESSFUL AP would ever be caught dead blabbing and tooting their horn so often and so much on any internet forum. Period.

You've been blabbing and tooting your own horn for 15 years in the forums. So by your own logic here you are lying.

[monet]

No true SUCCESSFUL AP would ever be caught dead blabbing and tooting their horn so often and so much on any internet forum. Period.

You've been blabbing and tooting your own horn for 15 years in the forums. So by your own logic here you are lying.

With this logic I suppose all those people who write books, make videos, run schools and or whatever else have never been a success in the world of Gaming as well.
No successful handicappers blabbing or tooting/touting either??
Do any successful people ever brag anywhere about anything?
I like Trump but does he do anything like blabbing or tooting?
Did Trump become the President of the United States of America?
Does Trump ever Tweet on Twitter?

[mickeycrimm]

So I'm ready to take on any of you phony WoV armchair gamblers who survive on theory. Same offer applies: I play my strategy with a $57,200 bankroll each session, I guarantee I'll win at least 8 out Of 10 sessions (defined as at least $2500 minimum net profit each session) and I'll do it for a bet of $25,000 plus the total amount I either win or lose.

BUMP

This post was made on 17 Aug 2018. You can see the proposition is for 25K plus whatever Rob wins or loses on the play. I'm bumping this up so everyone can read it. This is Rob making the challenge.

[Rob.Singer]

So I'm ready to take on any of you phony WoV armchair gamblers who survive on theory. Same offer applies: I play my strategy with a $57,200 bankroll each session, I guarantee I'll win at least 8 out Of 10 sessions (defined as at least $2500 minimum net profit each session) and I'll do it for a bet of $25,000 plus the total amount I either win or lose.

BUMP

This post was made on 17 Aug 2018. You can see the proposition is for 25K plus whatever Rob wins or loses on the play. I'm bumping this up so everyone can read it. This is Rob making the challenge.

Again mickey, try as you may....better you get your high school diploma before trying to follow anything that goes on outside of your Indian casinos.

[mickeycrimm]

So I'm ready to take on any of you phony WoV armchair gamblers who survive on theory. Same offer applies: I play my strategy with a $57,200 bankroll each session, I guarantee I'll win at least 8 out Of 10 sessions (defined as at least $2500 minimum net profit each session) and I'll do it for a bet of $25,000 plus the total amount I either win or lose.

BUMP

This post was made on 17 Aug 2018. You can see the proposition is for 25K plus whatever Rob wins or loses on the play. I'm bumping this up so everyone can read it. This is Rob making the challenge.

Again mickey, try as you may....better you get your high school diploma before trying to follow anything that goes on outside of your Indian casinos.

And as you all can see Rob's challenge is nothing but a bluff.

[Half Smoke]

Deep into the article Teams gives a tip on sports betting. The author quotes teams as saying this:

"Here’s an easy tip from Teams: If an NFL underdog is ahead by a lot at the half, against a public outfit like the Patriots or Cowboys, make a halftime bet on the dog to cover the spread."

I know a fair amount about sports betting and I've never heard of that play before. Furthermore, it doesn't sound logical. Furthermore I've never heard of any kind of play such as this, being advantageous in every situation without doing any other handicapping.




My conclusion: Bullshit

[monet]

Deep into the article Teams gives a tip on sports betting. The author quotes teams as saying this:

"Here’s an easy tip from Teams: If an NFL underdog is ahead by a lot at the half, against a public outfit like the Patriots or Cowboys, make a halftime bet on the dog to cover the spread."

I know a fair amount about sports betting and I've never heard of that play before. Furthermore, it doesn't sound logical. Furthermore I've never heard of any kind of play such as this, being advantageous in every situation without doing any other handicapping.




My conclusion: Bullshit

I heard a tip long ago about betting baseball (MLB) and supposedly every year it rings true.
It is along the same lines as your above "Teams" example.
I forget the percentage that you will come out ahead but supposedly...
if you bet on the dog on the money line when it is +200 or better on every game through the whole season.
You will have x amount of profit in percentage. I forget what the percentage is.
Those guys have tracked this for decades and say it comes out.
I can not confirm nor deny it but I head it from a guy who heard it from a guy.

[Half Smoke]

the logic behind Teams's play is that the public is going to flood money on the fave in this situation causing the books to put up an out of balance line.
as if the betting public is stupid. maybe they sometimes are but not too often in the NFL.
you can find out of balance lines in very little college games where the books only put up lines so as not to displease some alums who might want to bet on their team. for other reasons also. the competition forces them to.
in college basketball the books don't know or even care (in the little games) if a team's high scorer is injured. they could care less. it's the only bet you can make inside a casino where the management knows little or nothing about the game being played. a bot or a human just makes a few calculations based on their previous stats to come up with a line. I'm writing about a game like Chattanooga at The Citadel.

[mickeycrimm]

Deep into the article Teams gives a tip on sports betting. The author quotes teams as saying this:

"Here’s an easy tip from Teams: If an NFL underdog is ahead by a lot at the half, against a public outfit like the Patriots or Cowboys, make a halftime bet on the dog to cover the spread."

I know a fair amount about sports betting and I've never heard of that play before. Furthermore, it doesn't sound logical. Furthermore I've never heard of any kind of play such as this, being advantageous in every situation without doing any other handicapping.




My conclusion: Bullshit

I heard a tip long ago about betting baseball (MLB) and supposedly every year it rings true.
It is along the same lines as your above "Teams" example.
I forget the percentage that you will come out ahead but supposedly...
if you bet on the dog on the money line when it is +200 or better on every game through the whole season.
You will have x amount of profit in percentage. I forget what the percentage is.
Those guys have tracked this for decades and say it comes out.
I can not confirm nor deny it but I head it from a guy who heard it from a guy.

Theres a reason the books won't take 3 and 4 teamers with all dogs.

[mickeycrimm]

I would cut my own nuts off before I would ever live in a foreigner/minority/libtard-infested, social disaster city like LV.

But a foreigner/minority/libtard-infested, social disaster city like Phoenix is just fine with you....since you live there, right, Rob?

[mcap]

I think rob just lives wherever he can find a free large overnight parking spot.

[mickeycrimm]

I think rob just lives wherever he can find a free large overnight parking spot.

Walmart.

[Rob.Singer]

Walmart is starting to not allow overnight RV parking in some locations.

But I have to laugh at the constant bs about me stealing electricity and parking in driveways etc. Most of you ap's live like slugs in dumpy city apts., with mickey's holed up in some shithole Montana joint next to an all night bar. We travel between our 3 homes in Az. and S. Dakota in either a camper or a 45' class A that I put up a pic of but one idiot keeps claiming we don't have one for whatever strange reason. I know....our son grabbed it from us on our way back from SD so he must be right....

I have to say, it's fun picturing how most of you live and fear how you'll make it when you're at retirement age, while we don't live extravagantly, but it's not something most of you will ever see. Forum rats rarely do.

So those of you who work? Thank you, and keep paying my social security since you'll never see any of it. In fact, get a 2nd job if you will. And Mr. Trump? Thank you for the 7-digit profit on our retirement accounts in the Argentino household (that's for you, red) since you won the historic election!

Oh and the nutjob hatemonger atheists and agnostic weirdos from WoV who don't want to believe in God without "scientific proof"? No wonder you dumbos aren't believing Alan when he says he witnessed 18 consecutive yo's. Nothing means anything to you constipated jerkwads unless you see it for yourselves.

Most of you are so clueless.

[AxelWolf]

Walmart is starting to not allow overnight RV parking in some locations.

But I have to laugh at the constant bs about me stealing electricity and parking in driveways etc. Most of you ap's live like slugs in dumpy city apts., with mickey's holed up in some shithole Montana joint next to an all night bar. We travel between our 3 homes in Az. and S. Dakota in either a camper or a 45' class A that I put up a pic of but one idiot keeps claiming we don't have one for whatever strange reason. I know....our son grabbed it from us on our way back from SD so he must be right....

I have to say, it's fun picturing how most of you live and fear how you'll make it when you're at retirement age, while we don't live extravagantly, but it's not something most of you will ever see. Forum rats rarely do.

So those of you who work? Thank you, and keep paying my social security since you'll never see any of it. In fact, get a 2nd job if you will. And Mr. Trump? Thank you for the 7-digit profit on our retirement accounts in the Argentino household (that's for you, red) since you won the historic election!

Oh and the nutjob hatemonger atheists and agnostic weirdos from WoV who don't want to believe in God without "scientific proof"? No wonder you dumbos aren't believing Alan when he says he witnessed 18 consecutive yo's. Nothing means anything to you constipated jerkwads unless you see it for yourselves.

Most of you are so clueless.

There are like a total of 3 people who claim they believe Alan seen 18 yo's in the row. I highly doubt they actully believe it. Religious or non-religious beliefs have nothing to do with it. What makes it even more unbelievable is all the other facts surrounding his crapstory, not to mention Alan's word is not reliable, to say the least.