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    The person posting here as Rob Singer makes claims of having won over a million dollars, playing -EV video poker, while using a progressive betting system and stop limits.

    The mathematical facts are that 1.) you can not grind your way to long-term winning play at a -EV game. You can hit a single one time jackpot that can get you there, but that us NOT Singer's claim. And 2.) no betting system, progressive or otherwise, can change a -EV (losing) game into a +EV (winning) game.

    Now, I myself have made claims of winning over a million dollars total from advantage play, most of that (956k) from blackjack play. I believe mickeycrimm has made claim to earning nearly a million dollars from advantage play. Others, AP's such as Axelwolf, RS, MaxPen, monet, jbjb, moses, and others, while I don't recall any specific monetary amounts to their claims, all claim to have made money from the casinos, most claim that as their livelihood.

    So what is the difference between my claims, mickey's claims, Axel, RS and the other's claims and Rob Singer's claims? One word: Mathematics.

    Anyone can chose to believe me, mickeycrimm, Axelwolf, RS, and the others, or you can choose not to believe us. That is up to each person and what and who they find credible. But the difference is that the things myself and mickeycrimm, and the other AP's claim are mathematically possible. The machine guys are playing +EV games, and finding +EV situations. I count cards, which undeniably (except in the mind of Rob Singer) gives a player an advantage. That is why the casinos fight so hard to stop us. Some of the others engage in holecarding or other advantage plays. But ALL give the player an advantage, a mathematical edge, or turn our play to + expected value.

    Singer's claims are mathematically IMPOSSIBLE and he has provided NOTHING that turns his -EV play into +EV, giving even the possibility of winning long term.

    Now it isn't just the AP's who are based in mathematics that dismiss Rob Singer's claims. The owner of this site, Dan Druff, a professional poker player, dismisses Singer's claims as impossible. Now I don't know if a successful poker player qualifies under the definition of advantage player (AP)? He is playing with an advantage, no doubt, but he is playing against other players rather than the casino. I guess that is open for debate. I believe Dan Druff exercises some video poker play that may qualify as advantage play, but an not sure. But I do know that a successful poker player, is all about the mathematics involved. So when Dan Druff joins the rest of us, who are all about math in dismissing Singer's claims, it matters.

    As I said, anyone can choose to believe or not believe anyone else and their claims. As I always say, "it usually isn't that hard to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking". That goes to credibility. And anyone can choose to find me, or anyone else credible or not credible, but it all starts with mathematics. Are anyone's claims mathematically possible. Singer's claims simply can not clear that first hurdle of mathematically possible.

    Near as I can tell there are only like 3-4 members of this site, maybe 1-2 more silent members that have chosen to believe Singer's mathematically impossible claims. Alan, coach belly and slingshot the most vocal. And it's funny, these 3 and Singer make up the anti-AP fraction of this site. So not only are they embracing Rob Singer's mathematically impossible claims, but the always come out against the mathematical proven possibilities of the AP member's claims. Some sort of weird bias or agenda. I believe it is bitterness because of their own gambling history.

    So Alan, coach belly, slingshot go ahead and embrace Singer and his mathematically impossible claims. I am done trying to protect you. Better yet, put them to the test. Invest your own money and see what happens? In no time at all, you too can be living out your retirement years living in a camper is some relative's driveway, or perhaps in a tent in someone's back yard, mooching utilities....shades of cousin Eddie from the vacation movies and modern day Rob Singer.
    Last edited by kewlJ; 08-18-2018 at 06:39 PM.

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