I'll Be Making An Official PUBLIC Challenge To The AP "Community

[Alan Mendelson]

Hi I am a lurker here for a few months and finally decided to join up . I live in Henderson and am a dealer in one of the casinos in the strip. A couple of observations and excuse me if I’m out of line- Didn’t the loser above with all the judgements and the BK just say last week he was going to a beach house in San Diego for a weeks worth of R&R? Said he wouldn’t be reading here for a week, and then proceeds to post 60 times? That alone tells you his word is about as good as a wooden nickle. His creditors think so too And the way Alan the Deadbeat and Coach (of nothing) Belly follow him around with their hands in his pants is just smelly and gross. These 3 are nothing but complete clowns. Thank you and nice to meet all of you and be a member here

Thanks for lurking and then coming here with your detailed trolling post. I hope Dan finds out who you are.

[jbjb]

Hi I am a lurker here for a few months and finally decided to join up . I live in Henderson and am a dealer in one of the casinos in the strip. A couple of observations and excuse me if I’m out of line- Didn’t the loser above with all the judgements and the BK just say last week he was going to a beach house in San Diego for a weeks worth of R&R? Said he wouldn’t be reading here for a week, and then proceeds to post 60 times? That alone tells you his word is about as good as a wooden nickle. His creditors think so too And the way Alan the Deadbeat and Coach (of nothing) Belly follow him around with their hands in his pants is just smelly and gross. These 3 are nothing but complete clowns. Thank you and nice to meet all of you and be a member here

Thanks for lurking and then coming here with your detailed trolling post. I hope Dan finds out who you are.

Apparently Dan is very ill. Maybe there will be a third fake death in the gambling community after KJ's and Cmoney's

https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...te-not-really)

https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...FA-please-read

[Alan Mendelson]

If the APs are saying Rob is a 6/5 favorite aren't they conceding that his system works? Isn't 6/5 better than any of the edges the APs have identified in playing video poker in casinos?

Let's imagine for a second a Roulette wheel:

Imagine that we both go up to a Roulette wheel and you say, "Okay, let's each put $25,000 on the line where my $25,000 says I can leave this Roulette Table with a profit and your $25,000 says that I won't." Obviously, even on a 00 wheel, you could cover 34 numbers and, even though you have a hugely negative expectation, your probability of winning one trial is pretty high. I would obviously have a horrible bet going up against you.

With that said, if you sit at a Roulette Table and bet 34 numbers for a long enough period of time, you will go bankrupt.

My advice for you is not to post in a way that supports Rob Singer's positions. Not because I don't want you to, but because you do not even understand the fundamental and most basic mechanics of gambling and, as sad as it is to say, Singer does a much better job defending his system without your, "Help."

I'm sorry but you lost me as soon as I read roulette. Roulette is not video poker and Rob doesn't pick cards randomly.

Now if he's a 6/5 favorite over ten sessions why isn't he also a 6/5 favorite over 100 sessions or 1,000 sessions?

Please no coin flips or roulette spins.

[Elaine M]

Hi I am a lurker here for a few months and finally decided to join up . I live in Henderson and am a dealer in one of the casinos in the strip. A couple of observations and excuse me if I’m out of line- Didn’t the loser above with all the judgements and the BK just say last week he was going to a beach house in San Diego for a weeks worth of R&R? Said he wouldn’t be reading here for a week, and then proceeds to post 60 times? That alone tells you his word is about as good as a wooden nickle. His creditors think so too And the way Alan the Deadbeat and Coach (of nothing) Belly follow him around with their hands in his pants is just smelly and gross. These 3 are nothing but complete clowns. Thank you and nice to meet all of you and be a member here

Thanks for lurking and then coming here with your detailed trolling post. I hope Dan finds out who you are.

I am Elaine,that`s who I am. I am sorry if what I wrote offends you, but those are my honest observations after reading here for a month or so. You present yourself like a total idiot

[Alan Mendelson]

Jbjb that's a very serious statement Dan made about his health and shutting down his poker forum.

From his post:

" I am not going to issue an idiotic "retirement" message, as perhaps if I ever get better, I will still play occasionally. However, it is also possible I have played my last poker hand, made my last sports wager, and run my final video poker hand."

[Mission146]

I'm sorry but you lost me as soon as I read roulette. Roulette is not video poker and Rob doesn't pick cards randomly.

Now if he's a 6/5 favorite over ten sessions why isn't he also a 6/5 favorite over 100 sessions or 1,000 sessions?

Please no coin flips or roulette spins.

I try to use other games to make the concept easier to understand for you, because you have difficulty grasping gambling concepts as it is.

Okay, Singer's claim is that his system works. If you really wanted to test his system, here is what you would do:

There are no, "Sessions," except as Singer sees fit, but no set amount of, "Sessions."

What you would do is set a target amount, preferably more than one Royal at the $100 level. I would suggest $1,000,000, which I certainly do not have. How it would work is that Singer would have to play his system (or could play however he wanted, really) until he either won $1,000,000 or lost $1,000,000. If he were to meet/exceed $1,000,000, then the person betting against him would pay an additional $1,000,000. If Singer were to lose $1,000,000, then he would need to pay another $1,000,000 to the person betting against him.

The reason why Singer's, "System," has such a high probability of winning a given trial is because the win target is so small compared to the loss target. If his win goal were to go from $2,500/session to $500/session, the probability of a, "Session Win," would be even higher. If he made the win target $5/session, then it would be even higher still.

Anyway, if you set the stop win and stop loss to the same amount, and you make it a relatively high amount relative to the highest individual bet Singer is allowed to make, then the probability of winning would be well against him unless he were playing a +EV game in the first place.

[Alan Mendelson]

Unfortunately Mission you're not talking about Rob's system as he has stated what his system is.

I'll say nothing more. I'm not part of any bet. I'll leave the discussion to the actual participants and the armchair gamblers, as Rob calls them.

Besides anything I say will only bring out more insults and I have other things to do.

Mission anytime you're in town meet me at McDonald's and I'll buy you some McNuggets.

[The Boz]

I'm sorry but you lost me as soon as I read roulette. Roulette is not video poker and Rob doesn't pick cards randomly.

Now if he's a 6/5 favorite over ten sessions why isn't he also a 6/5 favorite over 100 sessions or 1,000 sessions?

Please no coin flips or roulette spins.

I try to use other games to make the concept easier to understand for you, because you have difficulty grasping gambling concepts as it is.

Okay, Singer's claim is that his system works. If you really wanted to test his system, here is what you would do:

There are no, "Sessions," except as Singer sees fit, but no set amount of, "Sessions."

What you would do is set a target amount, preferably more than one Royal at the $100 level. I would suggest $1,000,000, which I certainly do not have. How it would work is that Singer would have to play his system (or could play however he wanted, really) until he either won $1,000,000 or lost $1,000,000. If he were to meet/exceed $1,000,000, then the person betting against him would pay an additional $1,000,000. If Singer were to lose $1,000,000, then he would need to pay another $1,000,000 to the person betting against him.

The reason why Singer's, "System," has such a high probability of winning a given trial is because the win target is so small compared to the loss target. If his win goal were to go from $2,500/session to $500/session, the probability of a, "Session Win," would be even higher. If he made the win target $5/session, then it would be even higher still.

Anyway, if you set the stop win and stop loss to the same amount, and you make it a relatively high amount relative to the highest individual bet Singer is allowed to make, then the probability of winning would be well against him unless he were playing a +EV game in the first place.

Come on Alan, just do it. Die and leave the 10k and $75 in FP to your kids. Honestly how many of us are this little alive or dead? Probably should be a posting requirement. Good or bad, I’m willing to bet there is not a poster worth less than Alan dead or alive.

66 yearsof fucking people over and this piece of shit is worth more dead than alive. Sad or ironic . You pick.

[Mission146]

Unfortunately Mission you're not talking about Rob's system as he has stated what his system is.

Because I have a fundamental understanding of gambling math, all I really need to know is he can bet as much as $500/hand, his minimum win target is $2,500 and his maximum session stop loss is $57,200, or whatever the amount is.

[Alan Mendelson]

Unfortunately Mission you're not talking about Rob's system as he has stated what his system is.

Because I have a fundamental understanding of gambling math, all I really need to know is he can bet as much as $500/hand, his minimum win target is $2,500 and his maximum session stop loss is $57,200, or whatever the amount is.

I understand you know gambling math and I don't. But I speak English so when I'm told someone is a 6/5 favorite to win eight of ten, I want to know why he's not a favorite to win 80 out of 100 or 800 out of 1000.

[The Boz]

Another hour, how much more have you lost in a casino you could have paid your Kids?

Fuck you Alan. Deadbeat Piece of Shit.

But if you are posting here, you are not at Red Rock losing money.

By the way, fuck you Alan. Karma mother fucker, karma.

[Mission146]

I understand you know gambling math and I don't. But I speak English so when I'm told someone is a 6/5 favorite to win eight of ten, I want to know why he's not a favorite to win 80 out of 100 or 800 out of 1000.

That would normally be fine, except I'm running out of both patience and, quite frankly, different ways to explain it to you. The concept has never changed. At a certain point, you either choose not to understand or are incapable of understanding.

In very general terms, here is my last ditch effort:

1.) Win small money much easier than lose big money.

2.) Lose small money much easier than win big money.

3.) On good bet, win big money easier than lose big money.

4.) On bad bet, lose big money easier than win big money.

[redietz]

I understand you know gambling math and I don't. But I speak English so when I'm told someone is a 6/5 favorite to win eight of ten, I want to know why he's not a favorite to win 80 out of 100 or 800 out of 1000.

That would normally be fine, except I'm running out of both patience and, quite frankly, different ways to explain it to you. The concept has never changed. At a certain point, you either choose not to understand or are incapable of understanding.

In very general terms, here is my last ditch effort:

1.) Win small money much easier than lose big money.

2.) Lose small money much easier than win big money.

3.) On good bet, win big money easier than lose big money.

4.) On bad bet, lose big money easier than win big money.

Sounds like Tonto trying to explain the ways of the world to a very dim-witted Lone Ranger. Tonto have great patience.

[kewlJ]

Hi I am a lurker here for a few months and finally decided to join up . I live in Henderson and am a dealer in one of the casinos in the strip. A couple of observations and excuse me if I’m out of line- Didn’t the loser above with all the judgements and the BK just say last week he was going to a beach house in San Diego for a weeks worth of R&R? Said he wouldn’t be reading here for a week, and then proceeds to post 60 times? That alone tells you his word is about as good as a wooden nickle. His creditors think so too And the way Alan the Deadbeat and Coach (of nothing) Belly follow him around with their hands in his pants is just smelly and gross. These 3 are nothing but complete clowns. Thank you and nice to meet all of you and be a member here

Thanks for lurking and then coming here with your detailed trolling post. I hope Dan finds out who you are.

Sounds like Dan has much bigger issues right now than investigating a new member. I don't follow Dan's poker forum, so I don't know what all is happening, other than what I read on that announcement post that jbjb linked to, so I will just say, I hope Dan's situation improves and he feels better soon.

[Alan Mendelson]

I'm not going to question you anymore Mission. Thanks but you don't make the six o'clock news. (That's an expression we use in the news business.) I could use big words like extrapolate so I guess I have to. So let's extrapolate your statement. If Rob is a favorite by 6/5 to win 8 out of ten, what changes that he won't win 8,000 out of 10,000?

Don't bother answering. I won't understand. Really, don't bother. I won't understand.

[Alan Mendelson]

Hi I am a lurker here for a few months and finally decided to join up . I live in Henderson and am a dealer in one of the casinos in the strip. A couple of observations and excuse me if I’m out of line- Didn’t the loser above with all the judgements and the BK just say last week he was going to a beach house in San Diego for a weeks worth of R&R? Said he wouldn’t be reading here for a week, and then proceeds to post 60 times? That alone tells you his word is about as good as a wooden nickle. His creditors think so too And the way Alan the Deadbeat and Coach (of nothing) Belly follow him around with their hands in his pants is just smelly and gross. These 3 are nothing but complete clowns. Thank you and nice to meet all of you and be a member here

Thanks for lurking and then coming here with your detailed trolling post. I hope Dan finds out who you are.

Sounds like Dan has much bigger issues right now than investigating a new member. I don't follow Dan's poker forum, so I don't know what all is happening, other than what I read on that announcement post that jbjb linked to, so I will just say, I hope Dan's situation improves and he feels better soon.

I checked and Dan hasn't been on Facebook either for more than a week and I'm sure he doesn't want to deal with this forum either as he battles his illness. That means it's serious and everything and everyone can just run amok now.

He says his poker forum could be closed without notice and he's given up his podcasts. That's unfortunate. I'm sure that also means there will be no "policing" of this site either.

[mcap]

Same way you win with martingale the majority of the time Alan.

[Alan Mendelson]

Same way you win with martingale the majority of the time Alan.

I never used a Martingale betting system in my life. And if you're referring to Rob's method I don't play it nor do I know it. Of course the rest of you are all experts about Rob's system. Congratulations.

[Alan Mendelson]

Dan did post here on Friday.

[RS__]

I flip a coin twice. It has 25% chance of landing on heads both times. I flip a coin 5,000 times. It doesn’t have a 25% chance of landing on heads all 5,000 times. I know Alan doesn’t like flipping coins, but if you’ve ever taken a course in logic, you’d know it’s easier to break down a problem into a more simple problem to solve it. And this is an INCREDIBLY SIMPLE problem compared to others that take an ounce of effort to figure out.

Just because someone is a favorite to be ahead, doesn’t mean in the long term they expect to be ahead. I already gave an example before. If you break the problem down into more simple terms, you can imagine it being done on a craps table. I know Alan likes craps so maybe he’ll understand. If you lay $200 to win $95, you’re the favorite to win once your bet resolves. But if you make that bet every day, you’re not going to be the favorite to be ahead after a while, because there’s a thing called a house edge.

To keep it simple, let’s say there’s a game where I can bet if someone will flip a coin 10 times and it landing on heads all 10 times. The odds of that happening are 1 in 1,024. If I’m getting paid 1,500:1, I’m never going to be the favorite to win any individual bet, but after a few thousand I expect to be ahead, because I’m getting paid better than fair odds.


Of course, explaining gambling and math to someone who’s lost every year he’s gambled is like explaining something to a wall.