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  1. #201
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Obviously I have some credibility with Google. Thanks again Axel. But I think my advice about what to consider with loss rebates is fair.
    Interesting choice of words. "Fair." Fair to whom?

    Your article has no mention of the mathematical consequences of using rebates versus not using rebates. The article is not accurate or honest mathematically. The article makes no mention of what occurs when someone plays and wins, whether that win is a timed event or based on hitting a jackpot. There is no mention of those outcomes. There is no mathematical analysis of the odds of finishing ahead either through timing, jackpot win, or winning via free play. Not even a discussion of the possibility, much less percentage models.

    So, in terms of being "just, open-minded, equitable, honest," the article is definitely not "fair." Unless you consider the quality of the article -- a C-minus or D plus. Then the article would, I suppose, make the grade of "fair."
    Redietz does every article require mathematical analysis?

    By the way, I did a Google search for you and your famous sports betting accomplishments, articles, wins, etc and nothing came up under R E Dietz. What search terms should I be using?



    Search terms on Google? You seem to have conflated "expertise" with "fame." Happens all the time without a Merriam Webster on the desk. I'm hoping I don't show up on Google at all.

  2. #202
    Originally Posted by Half Smoke View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Zeebabar is a real person, Moses. Hard to believe, I know. I know this because I have seen his entry and picture in O.S.N. Devastating entry, with a very clear picture, precisely because he is such an idiot.
    IIRC Zee asked quite a while ago about OSN on bjtf and I'm pretty sure he knows he is in there. The very interesting thing is that it has not stopped him from continuing to play and win if you believe his posts which I do. Nobody could invent the nonsense he comes up with. Probably he's allowed to continue playing because he's a small fry and probably it's been realized that he's not much of a threat. If he ever tried to up his max bet to $300 or more and began playing very efficiently I would surmise that he'd be 86ed very quickly in many places.
    I notified Zee that he was in OSN the same day I saw his entry. I even sent him a copy of his entry that contained very clear pictures of his face taken at the cage, along with his vehicle including license plate number. It was a very devastating entry. I notified him because I wanted him to know how careless he had been in hopes that he might "tighten up' some of his procedures.

    The fact that he has continued to play most places without too much incident is interesting. Zee reads that as an entry in OSN is no big deal. I read it a little differently.


    Many casinos and casino personnel make a call on individual players based on whether or not they perceive them to be a threat and/or just how much of a threat and they often allow counter that they have perceived to be minimal threat to continue to play until they decide otherwise. I think that is what has occurred here. Zee uses a very small bet spread and frequently hesitates on even putting out his top bets. This combines with playing lower limit stakes probably has many determining that his is no or minimal threat....at this point.

    In addition, there are casinos that are notoriously over paranoid and sweaty and are frequent contributors to the databases based on that over paranoia. Once that reputation is established, other casinos and casino personnel sometimes tend to not put all that much stock in such an entry. I don't play where Zee plays so I don't know if that is the case with this entry or not. One such place that I have played on frequent trips that falls in this category is Valley Forge. They are such a frequent contributor, reporting every counter, even those probably playing a losing game or very small stakes, that many casinos and casino personnel just don't take them all that seriously. In Las Vegas, Cosmo (and a couple others) falls in this category. Sort of the boy who cried wolf scenario. An entry by one of these casinos loses some credibility and might not be takes so seriously and/or be so devastating.

    I think that is what has happened to Zee. Some of his regular casinos have just determined that he isn't that much of a threat....right now. But if he is winning as he says he is, that evaluation will change and when it does....boom...they already have everything they need to make his ability to continue playing much more difficult than need be.

    So regardless that he has continued playing with no or minor consequences, such an entry that he received is "bad news". It is like the guy that falls from the top floor of a construction site. As he is falling a co-workers yells out "how are you doing" to which he replies "so far, so good". Problem is that it is likely to end badly.

  3. #203
    Nice post KJ. Some of these guys post as if they must be playing the game with their heads waaaay up their ass. The advisors then sound smart because their head is only in their ass. I like you're analogy "so far, so good."
    Last edited by Moses; 10-05-2018 at 09:04 AM.

  4. #204
    Alan, if you're looking for anything at all about the self-proclaimed illustrious sports gambling exploits of R.E.Dietz, forget about it. As everyone who's tried will attest, nothing exists. That's why he keeps claiming his accolades come from 20, 30, even 40 years ago, and why he wouldn't copy/scan any of his silly PR Pkg. He was hoping to dupe us all with it thru you, so he could then begin soliciting more than just me to send him money for his "sure thing lock" plays-of-the-week. But you foiled him, which is why he trolls you so often.

    He's a sleaze bag with no equal.

  5. #205
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Alan, if you're looking for anything at all about the self-proclaimed illustrious sports gambling exploits of R.E.Dietz, forget about it. As everyone who's tried will attest, nothing exists. That's why he keeps claiming his accolades come from 20, 30, even 40 years ago, and why he wouldn't copy/scan any of his silly PR Pkg. He was hoping to dupe us all with it thru you, so he could then begin soliciting more than just me to send him money for his "sure thing lock" plays-of-the-week. But you foiled him, which is why he trolls you so often.

    He's a sleaze bag with no equal.
    This gets old.

    In 40 years, I have never called anything a lock or sure thing, obviously. Argentino puts it in quotation marks, which signifies not that he's directly quoting me, but that he's just using his own interpretation. It's a fine writing trick designed to make readers think he's actually quoting me. He's not.

    I guess I have plays most weeks. Not sure if they would be "plays of the week." I guess if a play is that week, then it's a play of that week. I have plays of the day, too, I suppose, if they occur that day. And plays of the millennium. I'm not sure if we're still in the Cenozoic Era, because I'd like to have some Cenozoic games, too. In fact, I'm going to use that. Games of the Cenozoic Era. I like it.

    I never solicited Argentino. In fact, I don't solicit anybody.

    Some of the material from the PR package has been posted in the Retro Road Trip thread. Maybe Argentino has been banned from that thread, so he cannot read it. I don't know. I offered to provide in-person all materials to Argentino. He hasn't gotten back to me on when he wants me to drop them off.

    And on and on.

    One forum member has a collection of McCusker's "Tipsters or Gypsters?" A forum member also received a copy of the National Conference paper via interlibrary loan from UNLV. See what a little legwork provides?

    And on and on.

  6. #206
    And on and on with your corny long and rambling diversions and denials, still with no actual explanations of anything pertinent.

    More despicable by the minute.

  7. #207
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    And on and on with your corny long and rambling diversions and denials, still with no actual explanations of anything pertinent.

    More despicable by the minute.
    What is despicable is your continuous gratuitous attacks. But then everyone knows what a despicable person YOU are.
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 10-05-2018 at 05:53 PM.
    Hate crime hoaxes? The left's demand for biggots greatly exceeds the supply.

  8. #208
    40 years on the inside track of sports betting and you never got wind of a fixed game or a lock??
    I find that hard to believe... I think you just don't want to admit it or post that information publicly.

  9. #209
    Originally Posted by monet View Post
    40 years on the inside track of sports betting and you never got wind of a fixed game or a lock??
    I find that hard to believe... I think you just don't want to admit it or post that information publicly.
    Argentino is referring to the habit of touts commonly labeling games as "locks" so as to charge more for a particular game or to hype the thing. He's not talking about a "fixed" game.

    I would never say that games aren't occasionally orchestrated -- that kind of proclamation is absurd, really. It suggests that nobody involved has motive, means, and opportunity, which is a proclamation.

    "Fixed" is too definitive a word to have any real-world value. Even if you pay a couple of basketball starters to "fix" a game, there's no guarantee that the game gets there (and the "fixing" would probably not involve the kinds of plays you think). That's why the term "orchestrated" is more useful when discussing this kind of thing. You can have a great conductor, but that doesn't mean the orchestra sounds the way it should.

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