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  1. #121
    Originally Posted by Katch View Post
    Nice one Mickey! It definitely helps to run well. Is that a place where the hold could have been set to 20-25% or were you pretty confident of the expected drain?
    I've had 3 plays so far. 1st was a 17% drain, 2nd 14.47%, and this latest one just 12.47%. Even though the RD's run to the top they have a stronger meter than the 10K's and much lower variance. The hold is predictable, well below 20%.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  2. #122
    Oh, good. I took a bath chasing a $500 this year when it dropped over 40% during just $10k+ coin in, but I was pushing it at the 8.80 level and variance just got the better of me.

  3. #123
    Originally Posted by Katch View Post
    Oh, good. I took a bath chasing a $500 this year when it dropped over 40% during just $10k+ coin in, but I was pushing it at the 8.80 level and variance just got the better of me.
    Yeah, I play the 5000's at 176 and the 500's at 88 to smooth out the variance.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  4. #124
    If you are not filing as a pro it almost seems the $5k W-2G isn’t even worth it. I guess maybe there are ways to offset such a huge play.

  5. #125
    Playing a 5k rd at 1.76 would be like watching paint dry ,,,hours wasted

  6. #126
    I have only played River Dragons one time. I chose the 528 denom. Didn't want to possibly hit a taxable before the main event.

  7. #127
    Originally Posted by Advantageplay View Post
    Playing a 5k rd at 1.76 would be like watching paint dry ,,,hours wasted
    Maybe so but with the numbers you guys play its money wasted.

    I like the low variance route. I don't get a play on RD's all that often. This last play was on graveyard in a 600 machine casino in the middle of nowhere. Nothing to do but twiddle my thumbs if not on the play.

    PS: An 880 bettor gets to sit around waiting on W2-G's. You have to rack up just 137 bets in free game mode to get one.

    And we all don't have million dollar plays like you.
    Last edited by mickeycrimm; 08-06-2019 at 02:55 AM.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  8. #128
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    I have only played River Dragons one time. I chose the 528 denom. Didn't want to possibly hit a taxable before the main event.
    I've seen W2Gs at 1.76.

  9. #129
    Originally Posted by smurgerburger View Post
    Originally Posted by MaxPen View Post
    I have only played River Dragons one time. I chose the 528 denom. Didn't want to possibly hit a taxable before the main event.
    I've seen W2Gs at 1.76.
    On this last play I hit one of the set of free games for about $700. Would have been a W-2G at the 352 level. And while I was playing a lady was playing one of the other machines. She took two W2-G's at the 352 level.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  10. #130
    I took a minor on one of these recently and had a pretty good spin....Name:  EE899B76-42E2-49BC-84D0-EE217A6538F1.jpg
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  11. #131
    Originally Posted by bigfoot66 View Post
    I took a minor on one of these recently and had a pretty good spin....Name:  EE899B76-42E2-49BC-84D0-EE217A6538F1.jpg
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    1439 bets in one spin. Nice.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  12. #132
    Originally Posted by bigfoot66 View Post
    I took a minor on one of these recently and had a pretty good spin....Name:  EE899B76-42E2-49BC-84D0-EE217A6538F1.jpg
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    A. Wow. Twitter worthy.
    B. That would have been a W2G at 88c.

  13. #133
    Originally Posted by smurgerburger View Post
    Originally Posted by bigfoot66 View Post
    I took a minor on one of these recently and had a pretty good spin....Name:  EE899B76-42E2-49BC-84D0-EE217A6538F1.jpg
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    A. Wow. Twitter worthy.
    B. That would have been a W2G at 88c.
    You're right. I'll hang it.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  14. #134
    I found an Ainsworth Glitter Diamonds at $1,964.29 major must pay by $2,000.00. I saw someone playing for a bit and I clocked the major meter at 1 penny per $5.00 and the minor at 1 penny per $3.50. Does that sound right for an Ainsworth penny machine? Also, at what number would you guys begin to play a machine like this? Newbie here. Thanks in advance.

  15. #135
    Originally Posted by BetMore View Post
    I found an Ainsworth Glitter Diamonds at $1,964.29 major must pay by $2,000.00. I saw someone playing for a bit and I clocked the major meter at 1 penny per $5.00 and the minor at 1 penny per $3.50. Does that sound right for an Ainsworth penny machine? Also, at what number would you guys begin to play a machine like this? Newbie here. Thanks in advance.
    Depends on what the overall payback of the game is. But at 1964 and .2% meter the average hit would be 1982. With .2% meter that's $9000 in action.

    1982/9000 means the meter is worth 22%. That would be enough for me to spin it off without knowing the actual payback of the game.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  16. #136
    Anyone have any stats on these new Aruze: The Brave Spirit / Tiki games? Free Games meter accumulates at different multiplier levels and then hits at some point. I haven’t run enough spins to determine if this could be a play or not. Top level games seem to hit when 190+

  17. #137
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Completed the play at 11:20 AM. That's 4 hours 45 minutes. Included restrooms breaks. I'm a coffee junkie so restroom breaks are pretty regular for me. When I said they run to the top I wasn't lying.

    I haven't see this info anywhere and i'm pretty new to slots, so the pressing question i need an answer to is: How do you hold the machine when you need to take a bathroom break? Do you ask a casino employee to hold it, do you leave a small personal item on the seat, or is there some universal signal? i haven't seen any reference to Depends, so i assume that's out of the question.

    Also, i wanted to say i'm very appreciative of you publicizing your plays and math; if i were in a similar situation i'm not sure i would, out of fear of competition. i understand you're in a less-populated area, but it's still quite generous. so thanks (even if i never get a play on one).

  18. #138
    Originally Posted by cottage cheese View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Completed the play at 11:20 AM. That's 4 hours 45 minutes. Included restrooms breaks. I'm a coffee junkie so restroom breaks are pretty regular for me. When I said they run to the top I wasn't lying.

    I haven't see this info anywhere and i'm pretty new to slots, so the pressing question i need an answer to is: How do you hold the machine when you need to take a bathroom break? Do you ask a casino employee to hold it, do you leave a small personal item on the seat, or is there some universal signal? i haven't seen any reference to Depends, so i assume that's out of the question.

    Also, i wanted to say i'm very appreciative of you publicizing your plays and math; if i were in a similar situation i'm not sure i would, out of fear of competition. i understand you're in a less-populated area, but it's still quite generous. so thanks (even if i never get a play on one).
    On that last River Dragon play I had a bathroom very close to the machine. That's the first thing I check out when I know I'm going to be on a machine for awhile. I have the "young man's bladder" so have to take frequent bathroom breaks. I know well in advance whether I'm going to be on one of those plays so carry my windbreaker with me, which I frequently need in the breezy casinos anyway.

    With the Buffalo Diamond 3X plays and the River Dragon plays I wait until I'm awarded free games. When I take off to the restroom I have a cup of coffee, my reading glasses, a pen, and an ashtray on the machine and my windbreaker on the back of the chair with the chair tilted forward onto the machine so no one can sit down in it. When the game is in free game mode you can't cash out the ticket so that's a blocker to anyone trying to rip me off. They are going to have to play off the free games before they can get the money. With the buffalo diamonds I don't start the free games until I get back.

    The River Dragons will automatically start the free games but unless you are using the speed stop it plays real slow in free game mode. I'm usually back to the machine before the free games are over.

    BTW, that last River Dragon play was at North Star Casino just outside Bowler, Wisconsin.

    Would I use the above technique in Las Vegas? Fuck no. The LV thieves are to sharp. They'll speed stop those free games off lightning quick and be gone with the ticket in 30 seconds. But it works pretty good in the outback where they don't have the really experienced credit hustlers.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  19. #139
    Mickey, are you concerned you would draw attention to yourself if you asked a slot attendant to cover?

    Seems risky walking away anywhere. Thanks.

  20. #140
    Yeah, I don't understand that. I have had slot attendants watch my machine and I just give a tip when I get back. They are asked by people to do that all the time. I think you're just asking to get ripped off. But maybe I'm missing something.

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