Million Dollar Blackjack

[redietz]

Just what forum's love to see....a bunch of anonymous personalities congratulating another anonymous personality whom they have zero knowledge of. Just blab in the same language they blab and you're nothing but pure gold within their blinded eyes.

And now we have baby bro thrown into the mix. Imagine how many of our tax dollars are going into supporting this lazy family.....

Maybe you could chair another roundtable at the G2E -- you know, "The Trouble with Anonymous Blackjack Players Financially Outperforming the World's Greatest Video Poker Player." Make it like King Kong versus Godzilla. A grudge match. I'm sure people will want to see that. Maybe G2E will allow you to charge admission. Count it as gambling earnings, so your gambling winnings lifetime can match kewlJ's.

[MisterV]

What does it matter whether someone is anonymous?

Assume you know someone's identity:you could not legally verify a claim such as KJ's.

An investigation would yield some info, e.g. convictions, bankruptcies (*ahem*), and the like but no tax return data is available.

Instead of wondering who someone really is you might better spend your time wondering / finding out who you are.

[The Boz]

Just what forum's love to see....a bunch of anonymous personalities congratulating another anonymous personality whom they have zero knowledge of. Just blab in the same language they blab and you're nothing but pure gold within their blinded eyes.

And now we have baby bro thrown into the mix. Imagine how many of our tax dollars are going into supporting this lazy family.....

Singer, I honestly don’t get you and probably never will. Why shit on what KJ states he accomplished? Or states he accomplished. Never met the man but talked to him online many times and I am more than willing to bet my assets he did exactly what he says he did.The man is a drama queen but he also is a hard worker and everything he says he did is possible.

He volunteers around Vegas and gives back. I also have zero reason to believe he doesn’t pay his “fair share” of taxes including Federal Income Tax. How many of us can say that? The nonsense about him being on welfare is unfounded and again, I’m willing to bet he isn’t. And that is a bet that is easily proved if enough money is at stake.

But here is the kicker, everything he says he has done is mathematically possible with hard work and effort. What you claim is also possible according to people far more smarter than me. But is also highly more likely Bullshit than fact. Is that what gets you?

I won’t say who or what I have observed over the past few years but in doing it I know which claims are BS and which are possible. And I know there some people out here making a living doing exactly what they say they are doing. But if they say it’s easy they are full of shit. It’s hard work, long hours and takes dedication and discipline, which I’m sure some don’t have. But we don’t always hear about that.

So Singer it always comes back to the math and common sense. The majority of posters here claim things that are mathematically probably and possibly. Where you claim things that are mathematically problematic, and rely on luck.

And your biggest defender is a deadbeat dad, self admitted lifetime loser, and overall a bad human being. Add in you debating every probability of winning is it any wonder who are a laughing stock here?

By the way congratulations KJ. No clue how much of that million is bankroll, is left after expenses or what. But you better be using a good tax attorney and contributing everything you can to a retirement account. Multiple choices based on how you file but never expect it to continue. Invest, you have a long life ahead of you!

Boz

[kewlJ]

The man is a drama queen but he also is a hard worker and everything he says he did is possible.

LMAO. I take no offense at the "drama queen" comment.

He volunteers around Vegas and gives back. I also have zero reason to believe he doesn’t pay his “fair share” of taxes including Federal Income Tax. How many of us can say that? The nonsense about him being on welfare is unfounded and again, I’m willing to bet he isn’t. And that is a bet that is easily proved if enough money is at stake.

I have actually gotten away from the volunteering that I did both here in Vegas and back in Philly for many years. The youth homeless shelter, where I volunteered doing laundry one morning a week, moved to a newer facility about a year ago and upgraded to paid laundry staff. Frankly after years of very little appreciation, I felt like I needed a little break. And then my heart surgery came along last fall, and I just have not picked back up volunteering anywhere.

I do have my own little charity foundation involved in supplying school supplies to homeless and lower income kids each August, through a local radio station, but that is really just a once a year activity and my mother has assumed much of the administrative responsibility on our end. Perhaps it is time to pick that (volunteering) up again, where I really get involved.

But here is the kicker, everything he says he has done is mathematically possible with hard work and effort. What you claim is also possible according to people far more smarter than me. But is also highly more likely Bullshit than fact. Is that what gets you?

So Singer it always comes back to the math and common sense. The majority of posters here claim things that are mathematically probably and possibly. Where you claim things that are mathematically problematic, and rely on luck.

Singer's claims are bullshit. They just are. They don't pass any kind of mathematical test. They don't pass any kind of "common sense" test. The only reason he gets any traction here on this site is because there are 1 or 2 other anti-AP guys....guys that appear bitter at there own casino gambling addictions and losing history, so they just hate anyone who uses their brain and proven mathematics and achieves any kind of success or positive results.

My observation is that it is not so much as these 1 or 2 (maybe 3) other anti-AP folks even buy Singer's bullshit claims, but that there is some "enemy of my enemy is my friend" crap going on here, so they put common sense and their true feelings of knowing better, to the back burner and publicly support Singer's agenda, including claims.

[kewlJ]

Oh, and not that it matters, but I am currently no longer at a million dollars profit from blackjack card counting. Todays $5700 loss has me back down with the less than 1 million dollar mere mortal crowd.

But I will get there again and far beyond. Maybe tomorrow, maybe next week. Whenever. Without going back and checking records, I believe I hit the 1 million mark 3 different times in total AP earnings before I cleared that hurdle for good. If memory serves, I hit the mark, fell back....then hit it a few days later, then fell back dramatically by 25-30k and crossed that barrier for good several months (and a new calendar year) later.

In my experience the blackjack and/or gambling gods or Mother Variance or somebody up there, seems to have a way of taking you down a notch when you start feeling too comfortable. LOL.

[18 Yos LOLZ]

How long has Singer been plying his load-of-bullshit trade trolling Internet forums for? 20 years? Imagine wasting one third of the average adult life making up bullshit that nobody believes on Internet forums to complete strangers? And he has the audacity to call others here “losers”. The dumb-as-fuck greaseball should take a look in the mirror next time a truck stop manger is kind enough to give him the keys to the restroom. LOLZ

[redietz]

How long has Singer been plying his load-of-bullshit trade trolling Internet forums for? 20 years? Imagine wasting one third of the average adult life making up bullshit that nobody believes on Internet forums to complete strangers? And he has the audacity to call others here “losers”. The dumb-as-fuck greaseball should take a look in the mirror next time a truck stop manger is kind enough to give him the keys to the restroom. LOLZ

I overlapped with Argentino for a good decade when I was spending 90-100 days a year in Las Vegas. He had his Gaming Today column, and he was often on the front page. Back then, not everybody was as math savvy as today, just like when USA Today first started publishing, they allowed a full page of sports handicapping ads with guys claiming to have 105-11 against the spread records and stuff. So back then, people bought some of Argentino's pitch. But eventually he went off the rails going after video poker writers who were math experts. Gaming Today had to drop him when he became too vicious in what was a fun, low-key, not terribly serious tabloid. Think about it -- he did an unpaid column each week for them, and they had to drop him. That's a tough thing to take. You go from front page pseudo-expert to nobody-will-print-your-stuff. The giveaway with Argentino is that he has no colleagues, nobody works with him, he wound up never writing for anyone else, he has nobody who will vouch for his systems. 'Nuff said.

[mcap]

So, basically what youse are sayin is his articles literally wasn’t worth the paper they was printed on.

[mcap]

Cool beans kewlj congrats.. Just so us armchair gamblers can get an idea of if you can and have paid any bills with this EV or “phantom bucks,”, what would you say your estimated EV, or phantom bucks, earned over this time period was?

[kewlJ]

Just so us armchair gamblers can get an idea of if you can and have paid any bills with this EV or “phantom bucks,”, what would you say your estimated EV, or phantom bucks, earned over this time period was?

I can't answer that because I didn't track EV all of those years. In the early years, I didn't even know what EV was. And the way I currently figure EV is not an exact science. I start with Qfit's software generated numbers for each particular game (rules and conditions), but then I have to adjust those numbers for games that I jump to a second table. There is no software that I am aware of that can generate precise expectation numbers for that situation, so I guestimate, as best I can.

But the short answer is, I would bet over the entirety of my career, my total EV is probably fairly close to my actual results. Probably actual results are running somewhat ahead because of that conservative guestimation. Most years EV and actual results are fairly close, but when you take an even larger sample size like multiple years, or an even larger sample size like the 15 years of my career, the numbers become remarkable close.

Now, I know that you know all this. Your question was really to stir the pot with that "phantom bucks" comment. That phrase and using it as the person in question does, only highlights his complete lack of understanding of the subject matter. But that doesn't stop him from talking and making a fool of himself.

[Moses]

It's not what you make. It's what you keep. Especially for a young man.

[mickeycrimm]

It's not what you make. It's what you keep. Especially for a young man.

Same goes for any occupation.

[MisterV]

It's not what you make. It's what you keep. Especially for a young man.

Really?

How can you "keep it" unless you first "make it?"

[Kim Lee]

Congrats to KewlJ. I believe him and hope he crosses the million dollar threshold only one more time.

These anonymous "AP's" who claim winning ways are a dime a dozen on the forums. Yet not a single one has ever been willing to prove any of their self-proclaimed prowess in any way.

The annual Blackjack Hall of Fame party in Las Vegas hosts around 100 guests, and the majority have won over $1 million lifetime from advantage play.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackjack_Hall_of_Fame

Actually, I don't think Ed Thorp has won this much, because he quit gambling in the 1960's and started successful hedge funds. Don Johnson won $15 million in one year. Zeljko Ranogajec paid hundreds of millions (Australian dollars) on his gambling winnings. After playing on a team with Ken Uston, Blair Hull founded Hull Trading, got bought out by Goldman Sachs, and narrowly lost a 2004 U.S. Senate race to a newbie named Barak Obama. This stuff is public knowledge, and these guys all got their start in blackjack.

Here is the kicker. These guys all played with each other, or friends of friends, splitting profit. So they know they are profitable. They proved it to their teammates, and many partners along the way. Needless to say, most of the party guests are unwelcome at certain casino games. Some have been barred or had benefits restricted at machine play, including Robert Singer's inspirational namesake Bob Dancer. I'd say these guys have proven their prowess.

So Mr. Singer, how many casinos have banned you? After selling books for years, when are you going to show your records?

[Moses]

It's not what you make. It's what you keep. Especially for a young man.

Really?

How can you "keep it" unless you first "make it?"

There is a crossover point where your money can earn more than your labor. IF invested wisely. I would hope a young man can "make it" but "keeping" is another story.

[Moses]

It's not what you make. It's what you keep. Especially for a young man.

Same goes for any occupation.

Absolutely. Agreed. Thus also prudent not to boast about earnings. No? But I get it when milestones are reached.

[Rob.Singer]

Congrats to KewlJ. I believe him and hope he crosses the million dollar threshold only one more time.

These anonymous "AP's" who claim winning ways are a dime a dozen on the forums. Yet not a single one has ever been willing to prove any of their self-proclaimed prowess in any way.

The annual Blackjack Hall of Fame party in Las Vegas hosts around 100 guests, and the majority have won over $1 million lifetime from advantage play.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackjack_Hall_of_Fame

Actually, I don't think Ed Thorp has won this much, because he quit gambling in the 1960's and started successful hedge funds. Don Johnson won $15 million in one year. Zeljko Ranogajec paid hundreds of millions (Australian dollars) on his gambling winnings. After playing on a team with Ken Uston, Blair Hull founded Hull Trading, got bought out by Goldman Sachs, and narrowly lost a 2004 U.S. Senate race to a newbie named Barak Obama. This stuff is public knowledge, and these guys all got their start in blackjack.

Here is the kicker. These guys all played with each other, or friends of friends, splitting profit. So they know they are profitable. They proved it to their teammates, and many partners along the way. Needless to say, most of the party guests are unwelcome at certain casino games. Some have been barred or had benefits restricted at machine play, including Robert Singer's inspirational namesake Bob Dancer. I'd say these guys have proven their prowess.

So Mr. Singer, how many casinos have banned you? After selling books for years, when are you going to show your records?

That's basically and technically an empty endorsement about who's won anything. You "think, believe, feel" that these people have proven their claims because they team up and talk highly of one another? Get real.

Other t Hf an that, glad you asked. I'm currently banned from playing at Eldorado, South Point (you know, the place that welcomes Dancer in with open arms, year after year after year....and PAYS him to hold a class in the room where I hit so many royals that it got me tossed?). Tropicana Express in Laughlin. And in the past so many years I've been barred from playing at Harrahs LV, Bellagio, Silverton, for a short period at Palms (after I got their Legends card) and Casino Fandango.

[redietz]

Congrats to KewlJ. I believe him and hope he crosses the million dollar threshold only one more time.

These anonymous "AP's" who claim winning ways are a dime a dozen on the forums. Yet not a single one has ever been willing to prove any of their self-proclaimed prowess in any way.

The annual Blackjack Hall of Fame party in Las Vegas hosts around 100 guests, and the majority have won over $1 million lifetime from advantage play.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackjack_Hall_of_Fame

Actually, I don't think Ed Thorp has won this much, because he quit gambling in the 1960's and started successful hedge funds. Don Johnson won $15 million in one year. Zeljko Ranogajec paid hundreds of millions (Australian dollars) on his gambling winnings. After playing on a team with Ken Uston, Blair Hull founded Hull Trading, got bought out by Goldman Sachs, and narrowly lost a 2004 U.S. Senate race to a newbie named Barak Obama. This stuff is public knowledge, and these guys all got their start in blackjack.

Here is the kicker. These guys all played with each other, or friends of friends, splitting profit. So they know they are profitable. They proved it to their teammates, and many partners along the way. Needless to say, most of the party guests are unwelcome at certain casino games. Some have been barred or had benefits restricted at machine play, including Robert Singer's inspirational namesake Bob Dancer. I'd say these guys have proven their prowess.

So Mr. Singer, how many casinos have banned you? After selling books for years, when are you going to show your records?

That's basically and technically an empty endorsement about who's won anything. You "think, believe, feel" that these people have proven their claims because they team up and talk highly of one another? Get real.

Other t Hf an that, glad you asked. I'm currently banned from playing at Eldorado, South Point (you know, the place that welcomes Dancer in with open arms, year after year after year....and PAYS him to hold a class in the room where I hit so many royals that it got me tossed?). Tropicana Express in Laughlin. And in the past so many years I've been barred from playing at Harrahs LV, Bellagio, Silverton, for a short period at Palms (after I got their Legends card) and Casino Fandango.

LOL -- I was "banned from playing" at Suncoast and Circus-Circus (in fact, asked to leave) because the woman I was with was dressed rather hotly. Of course, at Circus-Circus, it was Halloween and she was dressed as a Fembot from Austin Powers and security just didn't get it, although everybody in the sports book did. Anyway, my point is that saying one is "banned from playing" could be for any number of reasons -- being a loudmouth, owing markers, calling Asians "noodle slurpers," or hanging out with really hot women. I'm sure Argentino will be forthcoming with his letters of disavowal from the various casinos, because they will spell out the rationales for his bannings. And he'll be really pleased to prove to everybody that he's kept the eight letters listed in the above post.

[mickeycrimm]

Congrats to KewlJ. I believe him and hope he crosses the million dollar threshold only one more time.



The annual Blackjack Hall of Fame party in Las Vegas hosts around 100 guests, and the majority have won over $1 million lifetime from advantage play.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackjack_Hall_of_Fame

Actually, I don't think Ed Thorp has won this much, because he quit gambling in the 1960's and started successful hedge funds. Don Johnson won $15 million in one year. Zeljko Ranogajec paid hundreds of millions (Australian dollars) on his gambling winnings. After playing on a team with Ken Uston, Blair Hull founded Hull Trading, got bought out by Goldman Sachs, and narrowly lost a 2004 U.S. Senate race to a newbie named Barak Obama. This stuff is public knowledge, and these guys all got their start in blackjack.

Here is the kicker. These guys all played with each other, or friends of friends, splitting profit. So they know they are profitable. They proved it to their teammates, and many partners along the way. Needless to say, most of the party guests are unwelcome at certain casino games. Some have been barred or had benefits restricted at machine play, including Robert Singer's inspirational namesake Bob Dancer. I'd say these guys have proven their prowess.

So Mr. Singer, how many casinos have banned you? After selling books for years, when are you going to show your records?

That's basically and technically an empty endorsement about who's won anything. You "think, believe, feel" that these people have proven their claims because they team up and talk highly of one another? Get real.

Other t Hf an that, glad you asked. I'm currently banned from playing at Eldorado, South Point (you know, the place that welcomes Dancer in with open arms, year after year after year....and PAYS him to hold a class in the room where I hit so many royals that it got me tossed?). Tropicana Express in Laughlin. And in the past so many years I've been barred from playing at Harrahs LV, Bellagio, Silverton, for a short period at Palms (after I got their Legends card) and Casino Fandango.

LOL -- I was "banned from playing" at Suncoast and Circus-Circus (in fact, asked to leave) because the woman I was with was dressed rather hotly. Of course, at Circus-Circus, it was Halloween and she was dressed as a Fembot from Austin Powers and security just didn't get it, although everybody in the sports book did. Anyway, my point is that saying one is "banned from playing" could be for any number of reasons -- being a loudmouth, owing markers, calling Asians "noodle slurpers," or hanging out with really hot women. I'm sure Argentino will be forthcoming with his letters of disavowal from the various casinos, because they will spell out the rationales for his bannings. And he'll be really pleased to prove to everybody that he's kept the eight letters listed in the above post.

That's right. Rob demands proof. So he should have no problem putting up proof of his consistent winning, along with proof of his being barred and the reasons for it.

Rob, quit pissing and moaning about everyone else and LEAD BY EXAMPLE

[18 Yos LOLZ]

What Singer doesn’t tell you is that other than South Point which bans basically anyone who dares to cash a ticket at the cage (lolz @ all those royals), all those places booted him because of the negative influence his patronage had on the venues. I mean, what sort of business wants a dishevelled greaseball who looks like he’s just rolled out of a dumpster out the back of some alley in skid row stinking up the place. The real customers wouldn’t be able to get to the fire exits fast enough. LOLZ