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  1. #21
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    In other words, this question could have been posed to just about any local 25c vp player in LV, and the same answer would have been arrived at.

    And no one knows anything even close to what the story on this is in "other than in LV". Not even mickey, who's casinos of choice are obscure, smaller, western area Indian clip joints.
    High paying vp is the exception rather than the rule in the indian casinos. A 2000 machine casino might have only 20 video pokers. Typical game selection is 8/5 Jacks, 6/5 BP, 8/5 DBP, 7/5 DDBP. Forget games in the 98 to 100% range. They dont exist.

    The money in the Indian casinos is in the vulturable line games.
    Mickey, Ak-Chin has 10/7 DB in dollars. So you're right--Indian casinos have nothing in the 98%-100% range

  2. #22
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    In other words, this question could have been posed to just about any local 25c vp player in LV, and the same answer would have been arrived at.

    And no one knows anything even close to what the story on this is in "other than in LV". Not even mickey, who's casinos of choice are obscure, smaller, western area Indian clip joints.
    High paying vp is the exception rather than the rule in the indian casinos. A 2000 machine casino might have only 20 video pokers. Typical game selection is 8/5 Jacks, 6/5 BP, 8/5 DBP, 7/5 DDBP. Forget games in the 98 to 100% range. They dont exist.

    The money in the Indian casinos is in the vulturable line games.
    Mickey, Ak-Chin has 10/7 DB in dollars. So you're right--Indian casinos have nothing in the 98%-100% range
    I'm not certain about Ak-Chin as I've never been there, but I agree with Rob here. I know of plenty of Indian joints with high 99% games.

  3. #23
    Both the games I've put up so far in the video poker plays thread are in indian casinos. Ran about 40k total action and am slightly in the black on both games. Freeplay not included. Only play them to bump freeplay offers.
    Hate crime hoaxes? The left's demand for biggots greatly exceeds the supply.

  4. #24
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    In other words, this question could have been posed to just about any local 25c vp player in LV, and the same answer would have been arrived at.

    And no one knows anything even close to what the story on this is in "other than in LV". Not even mickey, who's casinos of choice are obscure, smaller, western area Indian clip joints.
    High paying vp is the exception rather than the rule in the indian casinos. A 2000 machine casino might have only 20 video pokers. Typical game selection is 8/5 Jacks, 6/5 BP, 8/5 DBP, 7/5 DDBP. Forget games in the 98 to 100% range. They dont exist.

    The money in the Indian casinos is in the vulturable line games.
    Mickey, Ak-Chin has 10/7 DB in dollars. So you're right--Indian casinos have nothing in the 98%-100% range
    Arizona casinos not on my circuit. Could possibly be in the future.
    Hate crime hoaxes? The left's demand for biggots greatly exceeds the supply.

  5. #25
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    High paying vp is the exception rather than the rule in the indian casinos. A 2000 machine casino might have only 20 video pokers. Typical game selection is 8/5 Jacks, 6/5 BP, 8/5 DBP, 7/5 DDBP. Forget games in the 98 to 100% range. They dont exist.

    The money in the Indian casinos is in the vulturable line games.
    Mickey, Ak-Chin has 10/7 DB in dollars. So you're right--Indian casinos have nothing in the 98%-100% range
    I'm not certain about Ak-Chin as I've never been there, but I agree with Rob here. I know of plenty of Indian joints with high 99% games.
    Rob, try to bone up on your reading comprension. Try to figure out what "exception rather than the rule" means.
    Hate crime hoaxes? The left's demand for biggots greatly exceeds the supply.

  6. #26
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    No sense responding to you anymore. You no doubt are a full blown broken-down shoe, mental patient, unable to pull your head out of your ass.

    Just carry on with you telling everyone else how fucked up they personally are. Funny how you responded in 10 minutes. Are you sitting in front of your computer searching for ways to make yourself feel better?
    So after all the garbage you posted here and on WoV, it only took me getting personal with you on your life long losing gambling habits to get you to ignore me. If only others had figured it out.

    I now wonder if you are actually Coach Belly and many of the same losers jealous of those who have found a way to make a living off casinos.

    Hell even Monet has figured out what you canít. Even if it takes him fucking naive ďpartnersĒ over again and again. You have to respect someone like that, willing to fuck anyone and everyone over for a dollar. And it seems the jackass ZenKing is in his sites next.

    As for being banned like Keystone. Face it most of us are gone if Dan is facing the ultimate Bad Beat and sells/ gives the forum back to Alan and the kid who loves his dad no matter what. Hopefully Slappy kids are not suffering from Grandpaís addictions.

    By the way, did you get that late checkout Mr Hole? And are you getting a nicer room next week?

  7. #27
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post

    So after all the garbage you posted here and on WoV, it only took me getting personal with you on your life long losing gambling habits to get you to ignore me. If only others had figured it out.

    I now wonder if you are actually Coach Belly and many of the same losers jealous of those who have found a way to make a living off casinos.

    Hell even Monet has figured out what you can’t. Even if it takes him fucking naive “partners” over again and again. You have to respect someone like that, willing to fuck anyone and everyone over for a dollar. And it seems the jackass ZenKing is in his sites next.

    As for being banned like Keystone. Face it most of us are gone if Dan is facing the ultimate Bad Beat and sells/ gives the forum back to Alan and the kid who loves his dad no matter what. Hopefully Slappy kids are not suffering from Grandpa’s addictions.

    By the way, did you get that late checkout Mr Hole? And are you getting a nicer room next week?
    WoW! You and some other members on these sites really have the wrong perception or impression of me and how I conduct myself in life for the last ten years.
    It is true that when I was 16-24 years old I was a downright dirty rotten scoundrel but even during that time period it wasn't as bad as you might think or paint it on your posts.
    If I was such a bad guy I would of stolen AxelWolf's 4 grand he flashed at ZK and myself while playing pool.
    This was one time in a long time that I only had 500 cash on me because I didn't feel that I needed money on me at that meeting and it didn't seem like a smart idea.
    Axel drank a good amount of Captain Morgan and even fell asleep in my car. I have/had two 45 acps on my driver side that I could pull out at any time.
    I wouldn't of needed them to steal his money if I wanted to. I actually have never strong armed someone personally or held them up at gun point or bashed them over the head for money or anything.
    I explained a few months ago that I had something stolen from me that was worth 16 grand and I just blew it off.
    The insurance company told me that I would have to file a police report and jump through some hoops to make a claim.
    I just let it go. I didn't even blink on it even when my wife wanted retribution or some money for the theft.
    My feeling is that nobody harmed me or my family. I had something personal stolen from me. Happens all the time to everyone.
    I have stolen plenty in my life but it is usually from corporations. Not personal individuals.
    However, I said that you have to have the mindset to screw over anyone at anytime. You are basically in the Jungle and you need to have the right mind to act accordingly.
    I have also stated that stealing from friends, family or people in general is the same thing as stealing from Casinos or Corporations.
    Stealing is Stealing no matter how you want to paint it.
    Most of my criminal activity in life has been petty embezzlement which if very common in most work places.
    When I ran Poker Tournaments I was skimming an average of 150 dollars a day. I made enough to cover a new car and got out when the getting was good.

    I wouldn't set ZK up. I most likely wouldn't set him up in my house. I just kinda feel for the guy because I understand where he is coming from.
    However, it would be too much of a bother for me to take care of my own family and have ZK running around my house with free reign.
    I just don't know him well enough to allow him to have that kind of freedom in my own house.
    For the record, I have only met ZK once in real life. I hardly text him but he has texted me about 3 or 4 times asking basic questions.
    He asked me about current procedures with Valet Parking. He asked me about renting apartments in Vegas.
    Other than that I basically warned him to be careful with meeting people or players from online because things are completely different online compared to in person.

    I don't mind you painting me as some horrible person but just get the facts straight and paint the picture the way it is supposed to be painted.
    Try not to just make things up out of thin air and embellish the facts when you honestly don't know any of the facts.
    If I was really trying to hustle people from online I would be in constant private messages trying to meet up with people.
    A few facts are this:
    I met AxelWolf and ZK and paid for all their drinks and time playing pool.
    I lost about 30 dollars to each of them playing pool for money.
    I drove Axelwolf to a destination of his choice because he was fall down drunk and I have seen it for over 20 years in this city.
    I didn't want to leave him stranded and I had no problem giving him a free ride that he accepted when I offered.
    Plain and Simple. I drove up by Rainbow and Washington and dropped him off at the 7-11 on the corner.
    I had to wake him up and he stumbled out of my car and made it home alright it appeared because the next day he was posting on WoV about it.
    I took his number but hardly ever contacted him ever again except when the Lucky Dragon was running a promotion.
    I took a picture and sent him a copy of the rules.
    Now with ZK I took his number and hardly contacted him but when he texted me I answered all of his questions.

    The other person I met is your beloved green mod BBB.
    I put her 3 day stay at the 4 Queens on my account.
    Not only that but I put my credit card on her room to cover any incidentals with the intention to pay for everything with my abundance of comp.
    I took her for a nice dinner at Hugos. Dinner was around 300 dollars and I bought us an 800 dollar bottle of wine that actually sells online for 500 dollars.
    I also covered the complete tip that was in cash for the 1100 dollar meal which I tipped out 200 dollars to the Server, Sommelier and The MaÓtre d'.
    Not only that but I used my comp to buy her a couple packs of cigarettes and a fully stocked fridge of all sorts of drinks that were too sugar/corn syrup based for her system.
    I ended up taking them home after she checked out and headed to the airport before I paid for the room.
    She ordered room service and paid for the 18% gratuity in cash so no harm no foul because I asked her not to make me pay for her tips with room service.
    I also let her use the room number to buy anything in the restaurants that she wanted and I picked up the tabs with my comp.
    I never contacted her again after dinner. I answered a couple of her questions. I made it clear online that she couldn't handle my workload.
    She kept hinting at wanting to play for me for a percentage or hourly. I am not an employer. I honestly could not see us working together with how I AP.

    You have the whole story/stories wrong. I never contact anyone. They always contact me and I oblige them with whatever they ask of me.
    Paint me as a monster if you want, which is fine with me but get your story/facts straight.
    Last edited by monet; 09-23-2018 at 03:31 PM.

  8. #28
    Trust me Monet, I know all the stories. Good people, but I have no idea what they were thinking in dealing with you. I can only assume from my interactions with them, they had good intentions and were looking for a win/ win situation that could be mutually beneficial for everyone. Without screwing anyone over.

    As for not ripping Axel off, most of us have been in that position to steal from someone. And possibly gotten away with it. But decent people don’t think that way, nor do they use it as proof they are “decent”. Most of us would have taken a drunk friend home, giving a friend an extra room, loaned them money interest free, etc. It’s what decent people do and never mention it.

    And we certainly don’t use it to justify other bad behavior. Nothing I post about you or anyone else doesn’t come making logical assumptions based on your posts.

    More importantly is why do you care what I or anyone else here thinks about you? Keep doing what you do, if it’s worked so far, keep it up.

    My unsolicited advice? Take care of those you care about, honor any obligations and live life to it’s fullest. We are all on the clock.

  9. #29
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    Trust me Monet, I know all the stories. Good people, but I have no idea what they were thinking in dealing with you. I can only assume from my interactions with them, they had good intentions and were looking for a win/ win situation that could be mutually beneficial for everyone. Without screwing anyone over.

    As for not ripping Axel off, most of us have been in that position to steal from someone. And possibly gotten away with it. But decent people don’t think that way, nor do they use it as proof they are “decent”. Most of us would have taken a drunk friend home, giving a friend an extra room, loaned them money interest free, etc. It’s what decent people do and never mention it.

    And we certainly don’t use it to justify other bad behavior. Nothing I post about you or anyone else doesn’t come making logical assumptions based on your posts.

    More importantly is why do you care what I or anyone else here thinks about you? Keep doing what you do, if it’s worked so far, keep it up.

    My unsolicited advice? Take care of those you care about, honor any obligations and live life to it’s fullest. We are all on the clock.
    I don't really care. Just get the story straight. Don't paint me to be something I am not.
    I am not trying to justify it. How am I some great friend to these people? I only met them once and hardly interacted with them online!?
    I would hardly call that some Friend as you put it.
    Either way, whatever BoZ... Just keep on doing what you do which is nothing for this site or others.
    The best that you do is make fun of people whom you do not agree with or like.
    Carry On, Business as usual. I will just stop reading your comments so we won't have any more conflict with one another.

  10. #30
    Monet, I can live with that. Thanks and enjoy the being, for whatever the being may be for each of us!

  11. #31
    Originally Posted by The Boz View Post
    So after all the garbage you posted here and on WoV, it only took me getting personal with you on your life long losing gambling habits to get you to ignore me. If only others had figured it out.

    I now wonder if you are actually Coach Belly and many of the same losers jealous of those who have found a way to make a living off casinos.

    Hell even Monet has figured out what you canít. Even if it takes him fucking naive ďpartnersĒ over again and again. You have to respect someone like that, willing to fuck anyone and everyone over for a dollar. And it seems the jackass ZenKing is in his sites next.

    As for being banned like Keystone. Face it most of us are gone if Dan is facing the ultimate Bad Beat and sells/ gives the forum back to Alan and the kid who loves his dad no matter what. Hopefully Slappy kids are not suffering from Grandpaís addictions.

    By the way, did you get that late checkout Mr Hole? And are you getting a nicer room next week?
    I think I understand your need and desire to convince anyone that might listen or might even care about what you allege as fact. For some reason you believe by just reading anonymous posts by anonymous people with anonymous claims, you have the gifted wisdom to call for fact everything about these anonymous peopleís existence.

    Unless you knew someone for most of their life your assumptions of that person could be a different story. But, youíre just another anonymous jerk on anonymous forums talking shit looking down on everyone you donít agree with. Itís sad and probably too late for you to ever realize how pathetic you appear to most wile in your golden years.

    I couldnít care less about APís, BPís, CPís, and what they do or how much they allege they make. For their well being I hope it's all true. From what I could tell, I think my life was blessed since I never or ever had to consider such a pathetic life being forced to gamble playing games and counting on the math for my future and its outcome. Of course, everything in life to a degree is a gamble at one time or another, but you guys are talking about the outcomes of actual casino games. From what I read over the years a majority of alleged APís actually boast about coming from the drudges of society.

    My only argument is proof of alleged claims. Other than well-known APís we read about, not one alleged AP on these forums have ever produced confirming facts. Just alleged APís confirming other alleged APís who donít even know each other, or if they do hardly enough to know actual financial facts.

    So, Iím going to make a claim now without any proof. I think one of my back yards is worth by itself, more than everything you own combined together.

    Take a walk you fucking BOZO idiot.

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