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    Redietz has insulted my years of experience as a professional journalist and he has challenged my skills and abilities. So I must now defend myself with a challenge to him over my reporting on Rob Singer.

    Redietz I challenge you to find any quote on my website or in my videos with Rob Singer where I either endorse his methods or even say they will "work" and provide the results he claims. I also challenge you to find any quote where Rob claims that his Special Plays are mathematically superior to conventional strategy.

    Put up or shut up.

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    alan, I understand your point, but by giving Mr. Singer air time one might assume that you felt he had something of value to impart to others, just as they would conclude when you'd shill for a discount clothier.

    My opinion would be different if you had provided equal air time to a VP "expert" other than him, someone with contrary views, but I bet it never happened.

    If you didn't endorse him or feel he had something worth saying, why did you give him air time?

    I cannot imagine he paid you anything; presumably you could have given a paying client the air time you gave Mr. Singer.
    Last edited by MisterV; 09-23-2018 at 04:46 PM.
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    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    alan, I understand your point, but by giving Mr. Singer air time one might assume that you felt he has something of value to impart to others, just as they would conclude when you'd shill for a discount clothier.

    My opinion would be different if you had provided equal air time to a VP "expert" other than him, someone with contrary views, but I bet it never happened.

    If you didn't endorse him or feel he had something worth saying, why did you give him air time?

    I cannot imagine he paid you anything; presumably you could have given a paying client the air time you gave Mr. Singer.
    V, you and I are successful people with assets. Alan is a broke degenerate struggling to live out his final few years dreaming of the one run that will turn 66 years of failure around.

    Asking logical questions of him is beneath you.

    As for his link, just for fun, look at the Yelp reviews of many of the businesses on his site. Not a pretty sight, but I’m sure those people deserved to be fucked on their carpet cleaning. Probably bad people who got deserved karma back.

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    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    alan, I understand your point, but by giving Mr. Singer air time one might assume that you felt he had something of value to impart to others, just as they would conclude when you'd shill for a discount clothier.

    My opinion would be different if you had provided equal air time to a VP "expert" other than him, someone with contrary views, but I bet it never happened.

    If you didn't endorse him or feel he had something worth saying, why did you give him air time?

    I cannot imagine he paid you anything; presumably you could have given a paying client the air time you gave Mr. Singer.
    I spelled it out. It’s right there. Read it.

    Edited to add: to be clear the interviews were on my website but not my TV show.

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    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    alan, I understand your point, but by giving Mr. Singer air time one might assume that you felt he had something of value to impart to others, just as they would conclude when you'd shill for a discount clothier.

    My opinion would be different if you had provided equal air time to a VP "expert" other than him, someone with contrary views, but I bet it never happened.

    If you didn't endorse him or feel he had something worth saying, why did you give him air time?

    I cannot imagine he paid you anything; presumably you could have given a paying client the air time you gave Mr. Singer.
    I spelled it out. It’s right there. Read it.

    Edited to add: to be clear the interviews were on my website but not my TV show.
    Have you given roulette system sellers equal airtime? And how about Smiling Bob?
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I spelled it out. It’s right there. Read it.
    Yes, I'd read it and still got to the same point.

    The article on your a.b.b. commercial website starts with a teaser about how everybody dreams of winning at casinos; you then talk about how Singer says he wins using his special plays.

    The only attempt I see by you to distance yourself from him is your statement that you don't believe in everything he says.

    Uh oh; that sounds a lot like you endorse most of what he says.

    Objective journalism?

    I think not.
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    If you were objective you would have at least quoted what is in bold ltalicized font:

    You will have your doubts as I have. I do not agree with everything that he says, but I think it is important that for the first time his strategy is shown in detail and with video examples.

    And that is what I did. With no endorsement and no judgment.

    The only thing that would make you happy is a condemnation.

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    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Redietz has insulted my years of experience as a professional journalist and he has challenged my skills and abilities. So I must now defend myself with a challenge to him over my reporting on Rob Singer.

    Redietz I challenge you to find any quote on my website or in my videos with Rob Singer where I either endorse his methods or even say they will "work" and provide the results he claims. I also challenge you to find any quote where Rob claims that his Special Plays are mathematically superior to conventional strategy.

    Put up or shut up.
    How about we try this?

    The Stanford Research Institute (SRI) did not endorse Uri Geller or say his abilities would always work. What they said was that he passed muster, and they could find no evidence of faking or flaw. They were, however, as a bunch of physicists, horrendously ill equipped to deal with what amounted to a magician. Geller used their testing to make himself more famous, promote himself, and take people to the cleaners by suggesting he had powers well beyond what probability would predict.

    Danny Sheridan -- that had been a pen name, an acting name -- got himself written up in a full page look-at-this-dude story in the back of a Sports Illustrated circa 1974. He was a real estate agent. The article claimed, via a third person, a journalist who allegedly followed Sheridan's selections, that Sheridan had won 85% or more of his selections against the spread the previous year.

    Sports Illustrated, after taking some heat for the full page what-amounted-to-a-promo, followed him for a full year the next season. Alas, true journalism was too late. "Sheridan" had acquired hundreds of clients begging for his abilities from that initial article. Good-bye real estate agent. Hello, brilliant world-class handicapper. Sports Illustrated followed him for a year and discussed his claims with experts in the field, including Jimmy the Greek and sports book managers in Las Vegas. They told SI that Sheridan was hooey. The SI tracking him for a year resulted in a 48% brilliance.

    Damage was done, however. The semi-retraction a year later was too late. Sheridan had made a fortune and created a cottage business around himself. The retraction had little effect.


    My point is obvious -- if you expose the public to hooey, whether you know it's hooey or not, whether you personally endorse it or not, you have some responsibility. Sports Illustrated didn't endorse Sheridan -- they allowed him to tell his story. Sound familiar? And if you're too lazy, as SI was initially, to cross-reference the hooey with experts, you did not do a responsible job. You launched the hooey into the public domain without bothering to check if it was hooey.

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    WTF redietz has all of that got to do with giving Rob Singer a place to show and explain his special plays?

    Leave me alone. And post your package articles for everyone to see.

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    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    If you were objective you would have at least quoted what is in bold ltalicized font:

    Yes, I read that too.

    Why would you think it important to anyone other than you?

    Who was your target audience?

    I mean, realistically: how many hard core VP players would actually look at the A.B.B. site, which was an appendix to your paid pitchman commercial TV show?

    Did you sense that there was a pent up demand for an explanation of his special plays, and if so, based on what, exactly?

    I assume the desire to do the piece arose out of controversy voiced on this site, VCT; if so, why not post it here as opposed to on your commercial site?

    That wasn't "journalism" as we know it: it was you trying to help a friend, for reasons still unclear.
    Last edited by MisterV; 09-23-2018 at 05:34 PM.
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    Frankly I don't care now nor did I care then how many people read it or saw it on my website. Does that answer your question V?

    The Constitution guarantees you the right to start your own website, or media outlet. There are even low power radio and TV stations that do not require a license. Start your own and publish what you see fit.

    You have that right.

    Now leave me alone.

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    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    WTF redietz has all of that got to do with giving Rob Singer a place to show and explain his special plays?

    Leave me alone. And post your package articles for everyone to see.
    You, as SRI and Sports Illustrated did in the cases above, launched hooey into the public domain without bothering to check if it was hooey. Why you would do this, I have no idea. You've never even said that you got a printed copy of Argentino's systems or plays. For all of your casino contacts or clients, you never went on record as having asked them about the likely efficacy or effects of the systems. You just launched into the public domain. No conversation with Argentino's original publisher that you'd care to share with forum members? Never called Gaming Today to ask what they thought?

    You launched hooey. You had a pretty good idea it was hooey, or you would have bolstered it by checking around and including possible pro-hooey statements from casino managers or Gaming Today or industry experts. Or, God forsake us, mathematicians hanging at UCal campuses a couple of miles away.

    By the way, another forum member used interlibrary loan to get my old National Conference article from the UNLV library. He must've burned 20 calories making the call.

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    Redietz stop your hallucinations and just stop trolling me. I presented examples of Rob's special plays and let him explain them. I did not endorse them. Nor have I ever endorsed them. Grow up.

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    Funny....redietz wants others to believe that if Alan questioned my GT publisher--whom I wrote 8 years of weekly articles for--they would say negative things about me ....like maybe my dick had too much girth for Eileen.

    I really do believe I spend a whole lotta time inside red's head! Exposing his sleazy sports betting solicitation business might actually be the best move I've ever made.

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    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Funny....redietz wants others to believe that if Alan questioned my GT publisher--whom I wrote 8 years of weekly articles for--they would say negative things about me ....like maybe my dick had too much girth for Eileen.

    I really do believe I spend a whole lotta time inside red's head! Exposing his sleazy sports betting solicitation business might actually be the best move I've ever made.
    Perhaps you might want to start with the name of the tout service and proof that redietz owns it. Put up some hard evidence. That's generally how things get proven, Rob. Not with smoke & mirrors.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Redietz stop your hallucinations and just stop trolling me. I presented examples of Rob's special plays and let him explain them. I did not endorse them. Nor have I ever endorsed them. Grow up.
    You didn't cover soft profits!! WTF?
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

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    Soft profits were covered in the Single Play Strategy. Every other strategy uses win goals.of course I realize you're just trolling.

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    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Redietz stop your hallucinations and just stop trolling me. I presented examples of Rob's special plays and let him explain them. I did not endorse them. Nor have I ever endorsed them. Grow up.
    You didn't cover soft profits!! WTF?
    True. If you bothered to read my website I said I wanted to provide a record of Singer's Special Plays. That's all I set out to do. And that's what I did.

    No where did I discuss soft profits though I did do another interview with Rob about his two books and his general beliefs about video poker. Did I question him about his actual play strategy? No.

    As a matter of fact you and others continue to debate him about his play strategy without even knowing what it is. But I digress.

    Redietz still has not responded to my questions in the original post, and I know he will not. He will dance around with reports about how Uri Geller was exposed and how Sports Illustrated blundered but he will not acknowledge the truth about what I did.

    By the way, years ago I posted on this forum that if Bob Dancer wanted to be interviewed by me I'd be happy to interview him.

    In fact, I'd like to extend an invitation to Robert Dietz. I would like to interview Mr Dietz about his business. Would you agree, Mr Dietz, to an unrestricted interview on your next trip to Las Vegas or any trip with 48 hours notice to me so I can have my cameraman available?

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    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Redietz stop your hallucinations and just stop trolling me. I presented examples of Rob's special plays and let him explain them. I did not endorse them. Nor have I ever endorsed them. Grow up.
    You didn't cover soft profits!! WTF?
    True. If you bothered to read my website I said I wanted to provide a record of Singer's Special Plays. That's all I set out to do. And that's what I did.

    No where did I discuss soft profits though I did do another interview with Rob about his two books and his general beliefs about video poker. Did I question him about his actual play strategy? No.

    As a matter of fact you and others continue to debate him about his play strategy without even knowing what it is. But I digress.

    Redietz still has not responded to my questions in the original post, and I know he will not. He will dance around with reports about how Uri Geller was exposed and how Sports Illustrated blundered but he will not acknowledge the truth about what I did.

    By the way, years ago I posted on this forum that if Bob Dancer wanted to be interviewed by me I'd be happy to interview him.

    In fact, I'd like to extend an invitation to Robert Dietz. I would like to interview Mr Dietz about his business. Would you agree, Mr Dietz, to an unrestricted interview on your next trip to Las Vegas or any trip with 48 hours notice to me so I can have my cameraman available?
    I’ve seen you ask Redeitz and a few others to “leave you alone” about 10 times now, but yet you keep responding, answering in their threads, and even making threads devoted to them....are you confused?

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