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  1. #41
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    Freeplay is the same thing as slot play. I think it’s near unanimous people refer to them as freeplay.
    Sorry buddy, but FREE PLAY is something the casino gives you. It's not FREE when you paid for it with the coins you brought in.

    MaxPen are you reading this?
    Mickeycrimm are you reading this?

  2. #42
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    Freeplay is the same thing as slot play. I think it’s near unanimous people refer to them as freeplay.
    Sorry buddy, but FREE PLAY is something the casino gives you. It's not FREE when you paid for it with the coins you brought in.

    MaxPen are you reading this?
    Mickeycrimm are you reading this?
    Whatever. Call it slot play, free play, free credits, or promotional credits; it's all the same thing -- "money" you have to cycle through at least once before cashing out.

    I say potato, you say potato.
    #FreeTyde

  3. #43
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    Freeplay is the same thing as slot play. I think it’s near unanimous people refer to them as freeplay.
    Sorry buddy, but FREE PLAY is something the casino gives you. It's not FREE when you paid for it with the coins you brought in.

    MaxPen are you reading this?
    Mickeycrimm are you reading this?
    Whatever. Call it slot play, free play, free credits, or promotional credits; it's all the same thing -- "money" you have to cycle through at least once before cashing out.

    I say potato, you say potato.
    Stop your bullshit. Getting slot play for the coins you bring to the cage is not free play. You made a mistake. Admit it and move on.

  4. #44
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post

    What kind of AP math is that?

    If you brought in $400 and they gave you $440 of free play, you really only got $40 of free play.

    Unless you got $400 cash plus $440 of free play?

    Now which is it?
    Holy shit, you're dense. The $400 becomes $440 free-play.
    Okay. So you bring in $400 of coins, and you get $400 of cash plus another $440 of free play? Is that what you're saying?

    Otherwise, if you're getting $440 from the casino, you PAID FOR $400 with the coins you brought in.

    Which is it?
    Tell me you really don't get this?

    You give them 400 in coin
    They give you 440 in a ticket to be used as play.

    Done.

  5. #45
    Of you are bringing $400 with you with the intention of putting it through a machine you might as well get an extra 10% out of it.

  6. #46
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Stop your bullshit. Getting slot play for the coins you bring to the cage is not free play. You made a mistake. Admit it and move on.
    Edit: Nevermind, this isn't even worth talking about. It's impossible to reason with you when you use neanderthal logic.
    #FreeTyde

  7. #47
    Wait I see what you did here... there is some conflicting use of terms here...

    I don't know the Ellis rules, but I imagine they give slot play tickets or something that has to be played through at 1X before it can be cashed out... to prevent people going in, getting a 10% bonus on their change and redeeming the ticket in a bill breaker...

    While ot isn't exactly free play awarded they do give you slot vouchers.

    Now if we want to get really picky about it, will the vouchers played show on your P&L for the casino as your coin in or as a $440 award?

  8. #48
    Originally Posted by SLaPiNFuNK View Post
    Wait I see what you did here... there is some conflicting use of terms here...

    I don't know the Ellis rules, but I imagine they give slot play tickets or something that has to be played through at 1X before it can be cashed out... to prevent people going in, getting a 10% bonus on their change and redeeming the ticket in a bill breaker...

    While ot isn't exactly free play awarded they do give you slot vouchers.

    Now if we want to get really picky about it, will the vouchers played show on your P&L for the casino as your coin in or as a $440 award?
    They would put $440 in "slot play" onto your account. You go to machine, download it, then play it off. No vouchers were used (at least when I did it, but I doubt they changed it).

    If you want to get nit-picky, they may have added like 440,000 points to the account, which could be redeemed for $440. I don't remember if they did that, or not. I just know that some places do that, especially when giving out free-play ... sorry, SLOT PLAY, manually, because it's easier to adjust someone's points than it is to give them free-play, for whatever reason. I know at least twice, when I had free-play issues, I asked a boothling or host about it, and they said they couldn't give me free-play because their system didn't allow for that, but they gave me the equivalent value worth of points -- this wasn't at Ellis Island though, it was at other places.
    #FreeTyde

  9. #49
    Hold it. There's only one bone of contention here: the use of the term FREE PLAY.

    If you bring $400 in coins to the casino, and they give you $440 of credits on your account you DO NOT have $440 of FREE PLAY. You have the $400 you brought in plus a $40 bonus which is in fact $40 of free play.

  10. #50
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    I'll gladly buy freeplay at 11 for 10 all day long.
    You would buy freeplay from whom? All day long where?

    How would that work? The seller must travel to Montana,
    to track down the world's biggest groundhog?

    Axel has written several times offering to buy freeplay.

    Is that what he'll pay? $10 cash for every $11 in freeplay?

  11. #51
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    I'll gladly buy freeplay at 11 for 10 all day long.
    You would buy freeplay from whom? All day long where?

    How would that work? The seller must travel to Montana,
    to track down the world's biggest groundhog?

    Axel has written several times offering to buy freeplay.

    Is that what he'll pay? $10 cash for every $11 in freeplay?
    Let us guess, you wanna put some money up and meet up with him, but only face to face...same as you’ve tried with at least 10 other dudes here. Name:  5284A5B3-F899-427A-922C-C121779AF64B.gif
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  12. #52
    Does it really matter what it's called? As long as we agree it's a good deal, that's all that matters.

    Buying those promotional chips (under the name "Win Cards") for table games that MGM properties have/had is the same thing.

  13. #53
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Hold it. There's only one bone of contention here: the use of the term FREE PLAY.

    If you bring $400 in coins to the casino, and they give you $440 of credits on your account you DO NOT have $440 of FREE PLAY. You have the $400 you brought in plus a $40 bonus which is in fact $40 of free play.
    And if I give YOU the $440 credits for free do YOU now have $440 in free play? If so, then it always was and always will be free play. Just because someone paid for the FREE PLAY doesn't change the NAME of it.

  14. #54
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    I'll gladly buy freeplay at 11 for 10 all day long.
    You would buy freeplay from whom? All day long where?

    How would that work? The seller must travel to Montana,
    to track down the world's biggest groundhog?

    Axel has written several times offering to buy freeplay.

    Is that what he'll pay? $10 cash for every $11 in freeplay?
    It would all depend on the situation.
    I would not wast my time with a small amount.

    If I could buy it in bulk, FROM THE CASINO, at that rate, then YES, I would do it all day long. No, I dont want to do it in dribs and drabs while having to run from casino to casino.

    Would you play a variation of a 8/5 bonus VP machine all day if it was 109% payback?

    I don't really want to buy it from individuals at that rate because it sets the market to high and I want to get the best deal for myself as I can.

  15. #55
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Does it really matter what it's called? As long as we agree it's a good deal, that's all that matters.

    Buying those promotional chips (under the name "Win Cards") for table games that MGM properties have/had is the same thing.
    Yes, it matters what it's called. You can't call your own money "free play."

    And yes. It sounds like a good deal to me as long as a bank is convenient to pick up $400 in coin to bring to the casino for a $40 bonus. Why not?

  16. #56
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Hold it. There's only one bone of contention here: the use of the term FREE PLAY.

    If you bring $400 in coins to the casino, and they give you $440 of credits on your account you DO NOT have $440 of FREE PLAY. You have the $400 you brought in plus a $40 bonus which is in fact $40 of free play.
    And if I give YOU the $440 credits for free do YOU now have $440 in free play? If so, then it always was and always will be free play. Just because someone paid for the FREE PLAY doesn't change the NAME of it.
    Are you really this stupid? The casino only gave you $40. You brought them $400 in coin as am incentive for them to give you a $40 bonus. The bonus is your free play.

    Geez. I can't believe this AP double talk.

  17. #57
    I look at it this way. The 400 cash is converted to 440 free play. 440 free play has less value than 440 cash or 400 cash plus 40 free play because you have to run it through once. So I don’t think it is incorrect to refer to it as 440 in free play. That there was a cost for the free play is a different issue. But the cash has been converted to free play in the sense that there are rules attached to it now. You can’t just put it in your pocket.

    Sounds like a good deal to me but I wouldn’t waste my time as a visitor. For someone that lives there why not.

  18. #58
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by AxelWolf View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Hold it. There's only one bone of contention here: the use of the term FREE PLAY.

    If you bring $400 in coins to the casino, and they give you $440 of credits on your account you DO NOT have $440 of FREE PLAY. You have the $400 you brought in plus a $40 bonus which is in fact $40 of free play.
    And if I give YOU the $440 credits for free do YOU now have $440 in free play? If so, then it always was and always will be free play. Just because someone paid for the FREE PLAY doesn't change the NAME of it.
    Are you really this stupid? The casino only gave you $40. You brought them $400 in coin as am incentive for them to give you a $40 bonus. The bonus is your free play.

    Geez. I can't believe this AP double talk.
    Alan's mental midgetry is shining through again.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  19. #59
    No mickeycrimm. I'm tired of the bullshit.

    AxelWolf starts talking about money dropping out of heaven like manna? Yeah, that's free play. But when you bring in $400 and the casino gives you $440 of credits only $40 is free play. Stop your twisted hallucinations.

  20. #60
    Originally Posted by regnis View Post
    I look at it this way. The 400 cash is converted to 440 free play. 440 free play has less value than 440 cash or 400 cash plus 40 free play because you have to run it through once. So I don’t think it is incorrect to refer to it as 440 in free play. That there was a cost for the free play is a different issue. But the cash has been converted to free play in the sense that there are rules attached to it now. You can’t just put it in your pocket.

    Sounds like a good deal to me but I wouldn’t waste my time as a visitor. For someone that lives there why not.
    Regnis "that there was a cost for the free play is a different issue" are you serious? That's the only issue. Anything you pay for through an exchange or deposit or purchase isn't free.

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