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  1. #121
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Please read my response to jbjb. Thanks for posting.
    I did read your response to jbjb. My only question is how can one person be so damn dumb? For all the time you spend in casinos, and as much interest as you have about the casino industry....how can you be so clueless as to how everything works?
    Ya know KJ, I try not to be as harsh on Alan as some are here. I really thought he, of all people, would want to learn legit ways to make money in casinos, even small amounts if necessary. I am now convinced that this isn't the case. He has no grasp on gaming math. He just wishes to be the typical casino sucker just like this guy next to me last night that questioned why my BP was hitting a hard 15 vs 6 up. Some of us are observant and know what to do with the info while others are just stupid and oblivious.

    Let's put the EI promo in another light. Suppose for every $400 you ran through a machine you got $40 free play. Would you do it? I would 24/7/365.
    Last edited by jbjb; 10-07-2018 at 09:58 PM.

  2. #122
    Lol Alan talks about expected return but doesn’t realize what EV means.
    #FreeTyde

  3. #123
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post

    Let's put the EI promo in another light. Suppose for every $400 you ran through a machine you got $40 free play. Would you do it? I would 24/7/365.
    So would I. But I wouldn't call my $400 free play, and I would be sure that I wanted to risk that $400 and knew that I could lose it.

    Got it?

  4. #124
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post

    Let's put the EI promo in another light. Suppose for every $400 you ran through a machine you got $40 free play. Would you do it? I would 24/7/365.
    So would I. But I wouldn't call my $400 free play, and I would be sure that I wanted to risk that $400 and knew that I could lose it.

    Got it?
    You should never lose the $400, unless you play some high limit machine. Preferably the lowest denomination. And it doesn't matter what's it's called, just know it's a good deal..got it?

  5. #125
    Another thread where Alan proudly shows the world what a fucking retard he is. And geasey old Singer joins in the chorus because hey, he’s a fucking retard too and he’ll be damned if Alan is going to get all the attention. Two dumb fuck peas in the pod. LOLZ

  6. #126
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post

    Let's put the EI promo in another light. Suppose for every $400 you ran through a machine you got $40 free play. Would you do it? I would 24/7/365.
    So would I. But I wouldn't call my $400 free play, and I would be sure that I wanted to risk that $400 and knew that I could lose it.

    Got it?
    You should never lose the $400, unless you play some high limit machine. Preferably the lowest denomination. And it doesn't matter what's it's called, just know it's a good deal..got it?
    Yeah it's a good deal. And thank you for not using the term +EV. Now, you're going to argue it is +EV and go ahead and do that. I'd rather say it's +EVH which means it's "positive expected value hopefully."

  7. #127
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    Lol Alan talks about expected return but doesn’t realize what EV means.
    This became very evident during the January (and on going) EV discussion concerning my blackjack play. Alan doesn't see the connection. If he understood EV, what EV is, or even the meaning of EV, he would....or should. But he doesn't.

    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Ya know KJ, I try not to be as harsh on Alan as some are here. I really thought he, of all people, would want to learn legit ways to make money in casinos, even small amounts if necessary. I am now convinced that this isn't the case. He has no grasp on gaming math. He just wishes to be the typical casino sucker just like this guy next to me last night that questioned why my BP was hitting a hard 15 vs 6 up. Some of of are observant and know what to do with the info while others are just stupid and oblivious.

    Let's put the EI promo in another light. Suppose for every $400 you ran through a machine you got $40 free play. Would you do it? I would 24/7/365.
    I know some members here think I am too hard on Alan. I don't think so. Alan has an agenda to discredit advantage players. He does it every chance he gets. One can only guess that he hates....I mean really is bitter towards players that make money off the casino industry, while he loses.

    I don't care that he loses. There are many recreational gamblers that lose money at the casinos and enjoy doing so. Good for them (and us). Personally to me it looks as though Alan has crossed over that line from a recreational gambler enjoying losing a bit of money, to problem gambler losing more than he/she can afford and unable to meet their other financial obligations (debts). That is really none of my business though. That is Slappy's problem.

    But I do object to Alan's continuing attempts to discredit advantage players...all advantage players and doing so using completely irrational so called "logic" and alternative universe math, just as I do Alan's partner in this anti-AP agenda, Harry "Rob Singer" Argentino. These are two peas in a pod, in my opinion. Two degenerate gamblers, with an anti-AP agenda, angry and bitter with players that win, when they can't or don't and they make up completely goofy shit, alternative math and facts as part of their agenda.

    Alan's "losing control of your money" comment is just as ridiculous as Singer's progression betting overcoming -EV nonsense, or his use of 'stop limits', and goofy talk of "soft profits". It is all nonsense! Alternative reality nonsense. And I don't give someone a pass for not understanding when they are using this complete nonsense to attempt to discredit me or other AP's.

  8. #128
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post

    So would I. But I wouldn't call my $400 free play, and I would be sure that I wanted to risk that $400 and knew that I could lose it.

    Got it?
    You should never lose the $400, unless you play some high limit machine. Preferably the lowest denomination. And it doesn't matter what's it's called, just know it's a good deal..got it?
    Yeah it's a good deal. And thank you for not using the term +EV. Now, you're going to argue it is +EV and go ahead and do that. I'd rather say it's +EVH which means it's "positive expected value hopefully."
    If you wish to use that term, go for it.

    If I offered you a fair, one time only, coin flip where you bet $1 and if you win, you win $4, that's highly +EV but you can STILL lose.

  9. #129
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    Lol Alan talks about expected return but doesn’t realize what EV means.
    This became very evident during the January (and on going) EV discussion concerning my blackjack play. Alan doesn't see the connection. If he understood EV, what EV is, or even the meaning of EV, he would....or should. But he doesn't.

    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Ya know KJ, I try not to be as harsh on Alan as some are here. I really thought he, of all people, would want to learn legit ways to make money in casinos, even small amounts if necessary. I am now convinced that this isn't the case. He has no grasp on gaming math. He just wishes to be the typical casino sucker just like this guy next to me last night that questioned why my BP was hitting a hard 15 vs 6 up. Some of of are observant and know what to do with the info while others are just stupid and oblivious.

    Let's put the EI promo in another light. Suppose for every $400 you ran through a machine you got $40 free play. Would you do it? I would 24/7/365.
    I know some members here think I am too hard on Alan. I don't think so. Alan has an agenda to discredit advantage players. He does it every chance he gets. One can only guess that he hates....I mean really is bitter towards players that make money off the casino industry, while he loses.

    I don't care that he loses. There are many recreational gamblers that lose money at the casinos and enjoy doing so. Good for them (and us). Personally to me it looks as though Alan has crossed over that line from a recreational gambler enjoying losing a bit of money, to problem gambler losing more than he/she can afford and unable to meet their other financial obligations (debts). That is really none of my business though. That is Slappy's problem.

    But I do object to Alan's continuing attempts to discredit advantage players...all advantage players and doing so using completely irrational so called "logic" and alternative universe math, just as I do Alan's partner in this anti-AP agenda, Harry "Rob Singer" Argentino. These are two peas in a pod, in my opinion. Two degenerate gamblers, with an anti-AP agenda, angry and bitter with players that win, when they can't or don't and they make up completely goofy shit, alternative math and facts as part of their agenda.

    Alan's "losing control of your money" comment is just as ridiculous as Singer's progression betting overcoming -EV nonsense, or his use of 'stop limits', and goofy talk of "soft profits". It is all nonsense! Alternative reality nonsense. And I don't give someone a pass for not understanding when they are using this complete nonsense to attempt to discredit me or other AP's.
    I dont think he's trying to discredit AP's. If so, he's preaching to the wrong choir. I've rather him try and convince casino executives and the various AP databases (OSN, Griffin, ETC.)

  10. #130
    Whenever democrats can't get others to believe them, they jump up and down screaming like little children first---then, the make up scenarios that they hope will make themselves feel better.

    This description exactly fits kew. He not only rants against those who utilize common sense arguments that easily debunk his and his ilk's claims, he then pretends that "AP's win and Alan & Singer lose". And I'm sure my depiction of ap's as being generally stupid for their non-advantage choice not to work real jobs in favor of sucking off family and the govt tit has a lot to do with the little fairy's continual anger. All he does is prove how sour a life he leads when he spends tons of capital desperately seeking relevance and attention.

    In short, I enjoy watching weak people come apart at the seams. That's why I watch CNN and MSLSD after every Trump win.

    It's a beautiful thing.

  11. #131
    See, now the other anti-AP idiot heard from. Maybe now we can have a few of his sock puppets weigh in backing him up.

  12. #132
    Unfortunately Rob just made another of his ridiculous posts.

    Back to the issue: yes it's a smart play to keep getting a 10% bonus or a 20% bonus on every bet you make.

    The caveats are you understand that there is no guarantee in a casino, that your money is at risk, and that's your money and not the casino's money you are initially betting.

    At issue here are the definitions of words.

    Edited to add:

    Look up the definition of "expected" and it says likely to happen. I wish you would say "LV" instead of "EV" because it's more realistic.

  13. #133
    Walk into a casino put $400 in a 9/6 Jack's or Better machine it is -.46 EV.

    If you drag 20 pounds of quarters and get $440 it is automatically plus +9.46EV

    If you put $440 of your own money in it is still -.46EV

  14. #134
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Unfortunately Rob just made another of his ridiculous posts.

    Back to the issue: yes it's a smart play to keep getting a 10% bonus or a 20% bonus on every bet you make.

    The caveats are you understand that there is no guarantee in a casino, that your money is at risk, and that's your money and not the casino's money you are initially betting.

    At issue here are the definitions of words.

    Edited to add:

    Look up the definition of "expected" and it says likely to happen. I wish you would say "LV" instead of "EV" because it's more realistic.
    Would "average return" sound better?

  15. #135
    Originally Posted by SLaPiNFuNK View Post
    Walk into a casino put $400 in a 9/6 Jack's or Better machine it is -.46 EV.

    If you drag 20 pounds of quarters and get $440 it is automatically plus +9.46EV

    If you put $440 of your own money in it is still -.46EV
    The question is, is it worth the work of acquiring the change then dragging it with you (and your cohorts if applicable)? To some yes, to others no.

  16. #136
    The expected value of $40 of free play in 9/6 Jacks or Better is what?

  17. #137
    I've heard stories of some of you figuring taking rolls of toilet paper and shampoo as +EV plays... I find it hard to believe that some of you haven't already done this for the extra plays this gives you...

    Now if this casino that offers this has really poor return games I don't imagine most of you step in the door.

  18. #138
    Originally Posted by SLaPiNFuNK View Post
    I've heard stories of some of you figuring taking rolls of toilet paper and shampoo as +EV plays... I find it hard to believe that some of you haven't already done this for the extra plays this gives you...

    Now if this casino that offers this has really poor return games I don't imagine most of you step in the door.
    Is saving money +EV? In my book, yes.

  19. #139
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    The expected value of $40 of free play in 9/6 Jacks or Better is what?
    $39.816 (average value )

  20. #140
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post

    Edited to add:

    Look up the definition of "expected" and it says likely to happen. I wish you would say "LV" instead of "EV" because it's more realistic.
    Or….you could just look up the definition of "expected value".

    Why would you take one word of a phrase like that, when one word of the phrase has a different meaning than the group of words together?

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