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  1. #21
    Nice job MC. Very enjoyable pics.

  2. #22
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Everyone wrote their seat number on a dollar bill. The host came along and deposited the bills in a garbage bag. Then they drew a bill out of the bag. One lucky winner of $167. Then they did it with five dollar bills. One lucky winner of $680. Then twenty dollar bills. One lucky winner of $1280. I wanted to yell out "Give him a W2-G!" but kept my cool. Then they did it with hundred dollar bills. Most everyone chickened out on this one. Only $1400 to the lucky winner. Again I wanted to yell out "W2-G" but kept my demeanor. I don't even know if you are supposed to get W2G's for such a gambling game.
    They play the very same money pool game on my charter flights to Wendover. I never play, but it does make the time go by faster. Also on the charter flights to Wendover they will have a few drawings for free buffets and free play. They must have at least 10 drawings so you odds are pretty good as there is only around 150 folks on the plane. And unlucky me out of all the trips I made to Wendover, I only won $25 in free play in the airplane drawing just once.

    There are also charter flights to Wendover from various parts of the country. Again it is fairly easy to qualify for free or half price after your first flight. Notice there are charter flights from Montana to Wendover. https://wendoverfun.com/flights/

  3. #23
    The best video poker in Laughlin is at the Aquarius and Riverside. The Riverside has only four $1 9/6 JOB machines. I had a very hard time trying to find them, but on my second trip there I did. I think I earned about 500 points on video poker and with my blackjack play was enough to qualify for free flight. vpfree is a good source of information. https://www.vpfree2.com/casinos/by-region/laughlin

  4. #24
    Aquarius has no equal in Laughlin. I doubt mickey walked up the hill to get there, plus their best games for strong winning players are on the $1/$2/$5/$10/$25 machines in the high limit area. (JoB in any paytable format is nothing but a loser's game who likes points more than money.) It's also the only non-mega resort I've run across in Nevada where you can be ahead of them six figures and they still invite you in to play.

  5. #25
    You aren't ahead of them 1 figure let alone 6. And you're a strong, losing ploppy. A simple background check on you confirms this.

  6. #26
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Aquarius has no equal in Laughlin. I doubt mickey walked up the hill to get there, plus their best games for strong winning players are on the $1/$2/$5/$10/$25 machines in the high limit area. (JoB in any paytable format is nothing but a loser's game who likes points more than money.) It's also the only non-mega resort I've run across in Nevada where you can be ahead of them six figures and they still invite you in to play.
    My first stop after Harrah's was the water taxi to the Belle. Quite the uphill walk to get into the casino. No problem. I have no idea how old or what shape people who read this forum are in. I was advising them about the uphill walks from the water taxi's. Do you think blackhole would want to make those walks? Of course, you have to construe it to something that you think will make someone look bad. Very childish. You only make yourself look bad.

    I'm not even close to being finished with the trip report and every casino on the river is covered.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  7. #27
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Aquarius has no equal in Laughlin. I doubt mickey walked up the hill to get there, plus their best games for strong winning players are on the $1/$2/$5/$10/$25 machines in the high limit area. (JoB in any paytable format is nothing but a loser's game who likes points more than money.) It's also the only non-mega resort I've run across in Nevada where you can be ahead of them six figures and they still invite you in to play.
    Would you care to name those games for "strong winning players?"
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  8. #28
    Thanks again for taking the time to publish all this info. I know you don’t drink but the brewpub at the Belle, “Pints”, makes a great burger. They have a build your own option for less than $10.

  9. #29
    On day 2 I took the water taxi from Harrah's to the Golden Nugget. Harrah's is at the end of the line for the water taxi's so you can spend some time waiting. You don't have to go down to the dock. You can see up river from the casino. Harrah's has a no wake policy for the water taxi's because they don't want waves washing up on their beaches so the water taxi's have to slow way down approaching Harrah's. When you see one coming down river you have plenty of time to make it down to the dock

    As we approached the Golden Nugget I seen the sign on the facade that said Bubba Gump Shrimp Co. It look like an interesting place to eat. It's located downstairs where the old buffet used to be. So I made a lap around the casino floor. The video poker sucked.....and only one vulturable. So much for that place. I went back down to Bubba Gump for lunch. Had the shrimp po' boy with fries and ice tea. $15 with the tip. The menu looked interesting. Pics from Bubba Gumb:
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    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  10. #30
    After lunch I walked over to the Pioneer where I finally got to do some work. The Pioneer was closed for a few months this year. It was bought by Intrepid Gaming which owns the Nugget and Red Garter in Wendover. The place still looks the same though.

    They've got a holdover game that's been there for 20 years that I know of. It's a linked bank 9/7 Double Bonus with five meters. The meters are on the quads, straight flush and royal flush. They run at .1% except the royal meter which runs at .3%. That's .7% worth of meters which puts the game up to 99.8%. Plus the slot card runs comp and freeplay. This is a pretty good value for recreational gamblers. The comp meter appeared to be around .5%. The points for freeplay kept showing zero so I ask a boothlng about it. She said they were still working the bugs out of their system but from her computer she could see I had 72 points on the card. And 1000 points was worth $5 freeplay.

    I then went walking around the casino and lo and behold....there sat two Dealer's Angel's blackjack consoles. There is no more live blackjack at the Pioneer. To compensate for it they put in the two blackjack consoles. I've seen this in smaller casinos all around the country. Instead of a live pit they put in Bubble Craps, Electronic Roulette, and the Blackjack Consoles. They get action and it looks like a huge saver in labor costs to the casinos.

    Dealer's Angel's has animated dealers on the screen. With most BJ consoles the dealers are on film. So if you see an animated dealer, congratulations, you found a DA blackjack game. While most BJ consoles are first hand off the top every time, DA is not. It's 4 decks with 80 card penetration. That's 38.5%. Not that swift but better than nothing. You can see the shuffle point. It's a 99.43% game without counting.

    The first think I wanted to do was establish how much the comp meter was worth. I wrote down how much comp I already had on the card and I knew I already had 72 points. Then I bet $25 a hand and counted the number of bets to get to $500 action. I racked up $2.72 in comp. That equates to .544%. My card still wasn't showing points but the boothling said I had 162 points. I thought that would put the freeplay at around .1% but I wanted to be sure. Since I knew that 1000 points was worth $5 and the comp meter ran at .544 I could run a bunch of action and use the comp meter to tell me how much action I ran. I could then ask them how many points I had then figure out what the freeplay meter was worth.This free'd me up so I could count the game. I use the Wizard of Odds multi-deck basic strategy. I think you can apply the Illustrious 18 to this game also. You can bet from $1 to $100. I've played the game around the country and the best I ever seen was a running count of +12 with 3 decks left.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  11. #31
    The DA game moves slow. Once you finish a hand it's at least 25 seconds before you get another one. It doesn't matter if other people sit down on the game because you can see their cards in your screen. So I wrote down how many points I already had on the card and the amount of comp. I played for a awhile then stopped to see how much comp I had put on the card in the session, $15.02.

    1 divided by .00544 = 182.83
    182.83 X 15.02 = 2761.

    So I had run $2761 in action. I went to the booth and asked them how many points I had, 648. I subtracted the 162. That means I had put on 486 points in the session. Since 1000 points is worth $5 the 486 points was worth $2.43.

    2.43/2761 means the freeplay meter runs at .088%. No much but better than nothing. I played until I had run 4K in action then went and got a $20 meal comp to Bumbleberry Flats.

    No vulturables in the Pioneer.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  12. #32
    Thanks for the report and pics, Mickey.

    Very interesting.

    I've been to Laughlin many times, but never went on one of those Caesars chartered planes. I'm close enough to where it's not worth doing that.

    The river is interesting, and it's kind of cool taking a water taxi in between casinos, but overall the town is small and boring.

    It's also not particularly easy to rent watercraft for the river. There's like 1 or 2 places that do it, I think on the Arizona side.

    Dining options are pretty lousy. Don't expect the high-end food available in Vegas.

    One interesting thing I noticed about Laughlin is that there's just about zero young, hot chicks walking around there without boyfriends. It's not like Vegas where groups of single girls take trips there. In Laughlin, the only attractive women you'll see around are there with their boyfriends or husbands. Probably the worst vacation destination to be a single guy.

    Did you stay in the "adult tower" at Harrah's? That's preferable if you have no young children with you.

    Laughlin is about 95 miles southeast of Las Vegas, and is basically in the middle of nowhere. It's in the area I call "three corners" -- where Nevada, Arizona, and California meet.

    The Laughlin area is defined by one city in each of those states -- Needles (CA), Laughlin (NV), and Bullhead City (AZ). Most Laughlin employees live in either Needles or Bullhead, being one of the rare locations in the country where most employees live in a different state than where they work.

    It's also brutally hot in the summer, sometimes reaching 120 (hotter than Vegas).

    Laughlin is also a way you can kind of experience "old Vegas". If you want to see what Vegas was like in the '70s and '80s, or you want to experience it again, you should go to Laughlin. It still has many old Vegas elements to it (though without the "name" entertainment).

    It mainly appeals to blue collar people who like to gamble, but find Vegas too expensive and too touristy.

    Harrah's Laughlin is considered to be in a different market than the Las Vegas Caesars properties, meaning you can make simultaneous comp reservations at both, and nobody will say anything. I've done that before in order to redeem offers.
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  13. #33
    Also, Seven Stars members get two free round trip water taxi tickets per day. You have to go to the Total Rewards desk to get it.
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  14. #34
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Also, Seven Stars members get two free round trip water taxi tickets per day. You have to go to the Total Rewards desk to get it.
    I don't think Harrh's is going to give me anything anymore. For the free 4 day flight/hotel package I ran a paltry $800 wager on their property. All I played were the few vulturables when they were in advantage mode. So long, suckers. LOL!
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  15. #35
    The comp dollars can only be used for meals at the Pioneer. For the hotel we'll have to wait to see what the mail brings. At Bumbleberry Flats I ordered a bowl of the chicken & dumpling soup along with the blackened catfish with corn fritters and unsweetened iced tea. I'm a country boy from the Mississippi piney woods. I'm a sucker for catfish. I think there was a $1 overage on the $20 meal comp.
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    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  16. #36
    Laughlin is definitely the olds folks. One thing I learned there 20 years ago, for a single guy, you have to pick on the cocktail waitresses. At my age now I'm more into sexy grandmothers anyway. Give it a few more years and I'll be into sexy great-grandmothers.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  17. #37
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Aquarius has no equal in Laughlin. I doubt mickey walked up the hill to get there, plus their best games for strong winning players are on the $1/$2/$5/$10/$25 machines in the high limit area. (JoB in any paytable format is nothing but a loser's game who likes points more than money.) It's also the only non-mega resort I've run across in Nevada where you can be ahead of them six figures and they still invite you in to play.
    Would you care to name those games for "strong winning players?"
    I was hoping he'd list games for "weak winning players" or "distance-running winning players" or something that would apply to me. No luck.

    Sorry, mickey. Great thread; will use insights on December excursion. Thanks for sharing. We'll drive down from Las Vegas.
    Last edited by redietz; 10-09-2018 at 04:46 AM.

  18. #38
    Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Thanks for the report and pics, Mickey.

    Very interesting.

    I've been to Laughlin many times, but never went on one of those Caesars chartered planes. I'm close enough to where it's not worth doing that.

    The river is interesting, and it's kind of cool taking a water taxi in between casinos, but overall the town is small and boring.

    It's also not particularly easy to rent watercraft for the river. There's like 1 or 2 places that do it, I think on the Arizona side.

    Dining options are pretty lousy. Don't expect the high-end food available in Vegas.

    One interesting thing I noticed about Laughlin is that there's just about zero young, hot chicks walking around there without boyfriends. It's not like Vegas where groups of single girls take trips there. In Laughlin, the only attractive women you'll see around are there with their boyfriends or husbands. Probably the worst vacation destination to be a single guy.

    Did you stay in the "adult tower" at Harrah's? That's preferable if you have no young children with you.

    Laughlin is about 95 miles southeast of Las Vegas, and is basically in the middle of nowhere. It's in the area I call "three corners" -- where Nevada, Arizona, and California meet.

    The Laughlin area is defined by one city in each of those states -- Needles (CA), Laughlin (NV), and Bullhead City (AZ). Most Laughlin employees live in either Needles or Bullhead, being one of the rare locations in the country where most employees live in a different state than where they work.

    It's also brutally hot in the summer, sometimes reaching 120 (hotter than Vegas).

    Laughlin is also a way you can kind of experience "old Vegas". If you want to see what Vegas was like in the '70s and '80s, or you want to experience it again, you should go to Laughlin. It still has many old Vegas elements to it (though without the "name" entertainment).

    It mainly appeals to blue collar people who like to gamble, but find Vegas too expensive and too touristy.

    Harrah's Laughlin is considered to be in a different market than the Las Vegas Caesars properties, meaning you can make simultaneous comp reservations at both, and nobody will say anything. I've done that before in order to redeem offers.
    You have that right, it’s certainly a dog pound walking around there....I think it’s a mandatory law that all men and women have multiple tattoos to get into the casinos....good thread Mickey

  19. #39
    Terrific thread Mickey. Bubba Gump is a chain as you may already know. I ate at the one in San Francisco once and the one in Monterey,CA once (went to the aquarium there about 25 years ago and ate there afterwards). I enjoyed the food. Anyhow, it sounds like this is a no go zone for the LID and Barney since it will be difficult to arrange suitable casino dates in this neck of the woods.

  20. #40
    Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Everyone wrote their seat number on a dollar bill. The host came along and deposited the bills in a garbage bag. Then they drew a bill out of the bag. One lucky winner of $167. Then they did it with five dollar bills. One lucky winner of $680. Then twenty dollar bills. One lucky winner of $1280. I wanted to yell out "Give him a W2-G!" but kept my cool. Then they did it with hundred dollar bills. Most everyone chickened out on this one. Only $1400 to the lucky winner. Again I wanted to yell out "W2-G" but kept my demeanor. I don't even know if you are supposed to get W2G's for such a gambling game.
    They play the very same money pool game on my charter flights to Wendover. I never play, but it does make the time go by faster. Also on the charter flights to Wendover they will have a few drawings for free buffets and free play. They must have at least 10 drawings so you odds are pretty good as there is only around 150 folks on the plane. And unlucky me out of all the trips I made to Wendover, I only won $25 in free play in the airplane drawing just once.

    There are also charter flights to Wendover from various parts of the country. Again it is fairly easy to qualify for free or half price after your first flight. Notice there are charter flights from Montana to Wendover. https://wendoverfun.com/flights/
    We get the Wendover offers from Peppermill as well, but have never been to that part of the state. Is Wendover preferable to Laughlin?

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