Who Are the Good Guys and Who Are the Bad Guys on this Forum

[Midwest Player]

I haven't visited this forum often enough to know who wants to provide useful information, and who wants to troll it and call others names. I have no use for any name calling and bullshit information. Yeah, I'm only a red chipper player and I'm very happy in any given year if I can hit the 5 figure mark. Most of the time I don't make it.

I really only know a couple of posters here well. On the top of my list of the good guys is KJ. I have been following his posts for probably 15 years across many different internet sites and have yet to find any consistences in any of his postings. I believe what he posts is true and not bullshit.

I believe, I first saw a post by Mickeycrimm, over on BJ21 where he posted his life story. I believe he is posting good information since I have been to Laughlin and can confirm alot of what he said. I will add him to the good list. And it is a shame how some posters derailed Mickey's Laughlin thread.

The only other poster I'm familiar with is Moses who has been banned from several other forum sites. I won't classify him as either a good or bad guy. It seems to me he is really to pound the shit out of anyone at any time which is definitely not good. This attitude has got him banned. I do enjoy reading his posts.

I will leave it up to others to say who will give good trustworthy information.

[Moses]

I really only know a couple of posters here well. On the top of my list of the good guys is KJ. I have been following his posts for probably 15 years across many different internet sites and have yet to find any consistences in any of his postings. I believe what he posts is true and not bullshit..

I was sitting at a table the other day with a couple of guys that were making KJ type money. Could be the old saying "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas." One guy employed Hi Lo. The other emloyed the "tweety bird" count. Now I walk through last night and happened to notice the HiLO guy was still sitting at the same table. He looked like he hadn't eaten, slept, or showered since I seen him a couple days prior. Now he has that beaten down WFT just happened look and was now employing the "HIA" count.

KJ is a bright kid with savvy. Therefore, I value his opinion. But let's not fool ourselves. Probably none of us are choir boys. My cousin is a choir director at a church in Vegas. They came up for a visit awhile back. I can tell you even choir boys are bullshitters. A "guy" comes back to the table after going up to the bar to buy "his" beer a couple of us has already bought him a round. He says, "I have such personal magnitude, I can talk to anyone. You saw the girl at the bar I was talking to? She reaaallly likes me." Uh, THAT was a hooker. "Oh."

Maybe some should just enjoy the experience and stop thinking they need to learn or teach with every post? Just a thought.

The only other poster I'm familiar with is Moses who has been banned from several other forum sites. I won't classify him as either a good or bad guy. It seems to me he is really to pound the shit out of anyone at any time which is definitely not good and this attitude has got him banned. I do enjoy reading his posts.

I'm only aware of being banned from the infamous BJTF. Who hasn't? I've only posted on 4 forums and to my knowledge this one and the other 2 have not banned me. It was the terms like "several" that used to piss me off at BJTF. Perhaps you will enlighten me on the "several" forums that have banned me since you seem to know.

If you have read other forums, then you know Norm is widely regarded as a horses ass. Flash is a well known fraud. So if I got banned by a horses ass for standing up to a fraud? That's cool, I can live with that.

[Midwest Player]

Perhaps you will enlighten me on the "several" forums that have banned me since you seem to know.

Okay, maybe several was the wrong word. However, several times you were banned at Norm's site and then given more chances. If I remember correctly many of those bannings were due to threats of violence.

Also I and others believe you were posting as "Tater" on blackjackinfo and threatened KJ you were actually coming to Vegas to kick his ass. I sure don't know why. However, it was enough of a threat to get banned on blackjackinfo also.

[Moses]

Perhaps you will enlighten me on the "several" forums that have banned me since you seem to know.

Okay, maybe several was the wrong word. However, several times you were banned at Norm's site and then given more chances. If I remember correctly many of those bannings were due to threats of violence..

As KJ points out, Flash and others had an agenda. For whatever reason, he chose me, like he does most newbies who do not submit to his ideas. I took his crap from August 2013 until September 2016. Then I had enough and decided to GIVE back. I admit, I'm the wrong guy to get fired up.

I think it was you, but maybe Tarzan wrote they couldn't understand why I was banned as they didn't read anything off course. That's because Norm deleted posts I was simply responding to where I was threatened first. "Threat of violence" is another term they love to employ to dramatize the situation. I wrote T3 privately because it was Flash who threatened me with T3. We resolved it off forum. Notice the blue ink bullshitter rarely posts as well as his "legions" (another overblown word) of followers. Why is that? Because Flash is also the follower.

Also I and others believe you were posting as "Tater" on blackjackinfo and threatened KJ you were actually coming to Vegas to kick his ass. I sure don't know why. However, it was enough of a threat to get banned on blackjackinfo also.

Tater is not me. There is a group that enjoys reading the forums. Particularly some of Zee's off the wall stuff. There was a Moses who was banned on blackjackinfo in 2010. That was not me. I didn't even know about forums until August 2013. Tater represented a round table of guys who contributed. Bobby, Skip, Lou, the Pulling Guard to name a few. He is a throwback to the old midwest. Like Gunsmoke. But he is harmless. I can't imagine him walking across the street for a free hot dog, let alone going to kick ass in Vegas. But I have seen a couple of guys choose him that wish they didn't. Tater is a very bright guy on several levels. I will bounce ideas off him on deeper level discussions in blackjack. But for the most part we all just joke around.

KJ admits that thread did not sit well with alot of players and it didn't with me either. But you'll have to refresh my memory. Physical altercations are not at all unusual in my neck of the woods. It's pretty much a way of life. But one doesn't have to look for it. Unless one holds up in a cave it will find a person soon enough.

[Moses]

Perhaps you will enlighten me on the "several" forums that have banned me since you seem to know.

Okay, maybe several was the wrong word. However, several times you were banned at Norm's site and then given more chances. If I remember correctly many of those bannings were due to threats of violence.

Also I and others believe you were posting as "Tater" on blackjackinfo and threatened KJ you were actually coming to Vegas to kick his ass. I sure don't know why. However, it was enough of a threat to get banned on blackjackinfo also.

What is blackjackinfo up to this month. Maybe 20 posts? Whoa, there is something that will be missed. Sing Sing did that yesterday by himself.

[RS__]

I'm RS on both wov and bjtf.

For the most part, you can just ignore Alan Mendelson, Rob Singer, blackhole, Bill Yung, Barney, and it seems like 1 or 2 more.

[Midwest Player]

I'm RS on both wov and bjtf.

For the most part, you can just ignore Alan Mendelson, Rob Singer, blackhole, Bill Yung, Barney, and it seems like 1 or 2 more.

Yeah, good posts from RS on BJTF. You are on my good guy list.

[blackhole]

I'm RS on both wov and bjtf.

For the most part, you can just ignore Alan Mendelson, Rob Singer, blackhole, Bill Yung, Barney, and it seems like 1 or 2 more.

First of all, I’m a retired old man with no AP experience what so ever. I visited and played in casinos all over the world. Whenever I gambled throughout my adult life it was always treated as entertainment. Great foods by known chefs, awesome accommodations, shows, boxing, shopping for the wife, along with endless interesting nearby sites and fun entertainments outside the perimeters of different casinos all over the world.

Never once did I ever consider going to a casino with expectations of earning money to live and support my family. I couldn’t even phantom sitting at a video poker machine like Bob Dancer wrote about, playing as fast as possible with one hand, while feeding another with 100-dollar bills not to waste time trying to eventually gain the mathematical edge with casino promotions before he gets thrown out, or goes broke. If that isn’t still considered gambling, I don’t know what is.

So, when I contribute a post, it’s usually an observation as an outsider when AP is involved. I’ve read about some famous successful AP moves and their financial gains and believe it cause the casinos themselves printed it. I believe what poker pros can make because it’s public knowledge. But, because a guy like RS and all the others that come here and proclaim great financial success beating up on casinos without a single ounce of proof, I can’t help but go into doubtful mode.

RS and others claim I don’t add to this site simply because I don’t drink the AP cool-aid. I read over the last 30 posts by RS. If the steak he ate somewhere years ago was the only contribution throughout those posts he should be banned.

Just read what these weirdos like Midwest Player, Mosses, talk about in this thread. Look at the name of this thread. Them along with the gay guy just bring their arguments here after being banned for the same nonsense elsewhere.

Dan moved around a lot of posts and I think my thoughts about Kewlj were lost so I just copied some of it and posted it here below. By the way, most of the AP’s here are from the WOV and are the same group calling for everyone’s head here who don’t agree. Below are known facts about Mike S. which confirms how phony most from there (like RS) who post here actually are.

Funny how the members of the wizard of bullshit never talk about their fearless leader Mike, who’s only claim to fame from gambling was going broke. Then he colluded with illegal banking transferring from USA to off shore gambling sites to drag himself out of the gutter. Then he even used his alleged famous name to guarantee payment from off shore sites if members were not paid. That in of itself should confirm his true snaky skumbag addictive gambling intentions.

All Kewlj worries and talks about is being rejected from such a fucking asshole and his site. That says all anyone here needs to know about you Kewlj.

This also tells the truth about all the other phonies from WOV. Funny how they post there all the while being forced feed what they can or can't say. Not one of they call out the lying leader, or the goon moderators. Yet, they want to come here and rule while in complete denial of the WOV.

[jbjb]

First of all, I’m a retired old man with no AP experience what so ever.

I'm only going to respond to this, because the rest is just complete stupidity.

Since you have NO experience, just STFU! As usual, you have no damn clue what is going on in the casinos.

[blackhole]

I'm only going to respond to this, because the rest is just complete stupidity.

Since you have NO experience, just STFU! As usual, you have no damn clue what is going on in the casinos.

Just click onto this AP millionaires class-less past posts here. Talk about contributing to a forum. Imagine taking advice from an un-educated proof-less alleged AP idiot like this? I wonder who's advice would be worst, Mike S. or jbjb. Dumb or dumber?

Believe me when I tell you most here know exactly what your proof is, which is how much of a lying fool you are.

[jbjb]

I'm only going to respond to this, because the rest is just complete stupidity.

Since you have NO experience, just STFU! As usual, you have no damn clue what is going on in the casinos.

Just click onto this AP millionaires class-less past posts here. Talk about contributing to a forum. Imagine taking advice from an un-educated proof-less alleged AP idiot like this? Believe me when I tell you most here know exactly what your proof is, which is how much of a lying fool you are.

Here's the difference. I don't give a flying fuck whether you or another shitforbrains believes me or not.

So genius, how the hell do YOU suppose I make money and pays my bills then?? Better get PROOF before you post it though....

P.S. I dont give a shit what Mike S. or anyone else does. I only care about me and my family. Not anyone else's. Also, I don't want people to follow my advice. Why the fuck would I want the competition???? You're just stupid, aren't you!

[Moses]

First of all, I’m a retired old man with no AP experience what so ever. I visited and played in casinos all over the world. Whenever I gambled throughout my adult life it was always treated as entertainment. Great foods by known chefs, awesome accommodations, shows, boxing, shopping for the wife, along with endless interesting nearby sites and fun entertainments outside the perimeters of different casinos all over the world.

Nice post. You sound like a man who still has alot of piss and vinegar in him. No?

I couldn’t even phantom sitting at a video poker machine like Bob Dancer wrote about, playing as fast as possible with one hand, while feeding another with 100-dollar bills not to waste time trying to eventually gain the mathematical edge with casino promotions before he gets thrown out, or goes broke. If that isn’t still considered gambling, I don’t know what is..

That would unnerve me a wee bit as well.

Just read what these weirdos like Midwest Player, Mosses, talk about in this thread. Look at the name of this thread. Them along with the gay guy just bring their arguments here after being banned for the same nonsense elsewhere. ..

Wait. Who is the gay guy? lol I think have the record for a guy who was banned from a forum he never posted on in the first place.

Not one of they call out the lying leader, or the goon moderators. Yet, they want to come here and rule while in complete denial of the WOV.

To say I haven't called out a goon moderator would be understatement. Not even Norm al? Sorry Mr Hole, you'll have to explain to me what WOV stands for. Wusses on Viagra? Enjoy your bananas. That's a joke. I'm only razzin.

[Rob.Singer]

I'm RS on both wov and bjtf.

For the most part, you can just ignore Alan Mendelson, Rob Singer, blackhole, Bill Yung, Barney, and it seems like 1 or 2 more.

Yup. Only pay attention to and believe the collection of anonymous WoV forum rejects. They can concoct anything the heart desires, and the rest of them will go goo-goo over their "ap-inspired" claims. Especially since kew showed up, it's been like an inimitable fantasyland around here, where any anonymous "AP"can claim any accolade, success, and far-reaching "accomplishments" they like, and they can count on the oohs and ahhs from the other anonymous ap's.

But don't ruin the wet dreams by pointing out any inconsistencies or by asking the tough questions. Then story-manufacturers like kew will scream bloody murder, whine like a wuss that anyone who does that should be banned from "his home away from home" (yes I know....what an idiot) and once again announce something that he'll never do without blowing his own brains out--threaten that he's "quitting for good!"

Makes for a fun place to be for the "banned" guys.

[MisterV]

I wish that I could contribute something gambling-related of value to edify and educate folks, but as a recreational gambler who plays craps and slots that ain't likely to happen too often.

So I hang out for my own amusement.

Wicked world.

[Midwest Player]

I wish that I could contribute something gambling-related of value to edify and educate folks, but as a recreational gambler who plays craps and slots that ain't likely to happen too often.

So I hang out for my own amusement.

Wicked world.

At least your are being truthful. I will add you to the good guy list.

[Midwest Player]

I have been following his posts for probably 15 years across many different internet sites and have yet to find any consistences in any of his postings. I believe what he posts is true and not bullshit.

What the hell happened to the edit button? I meant inconsistencies.

[Keystone]

What a ridiculous post....good guy/bad guy list?....are you 12 yrs old?...You should have added a moron list and put yourself right on top

[Moses]

What a ridiculous post....good guy/bad guy list?....are you 12 yrs old?...You should have put a moron list and put yourself right on top

LOL. My quarter says you just made the bad guy list. Perhaps start a pole/poll.

[Bill Yung]

There are no "good guys" in the land of casino gambling. Why the heck would anyone think that?

[slingshot]

I haven't visited this forum often enough to know who wants to provide useful information, and who wants to troll it and call others names. I have no use for any name calling and bullshit information. Yeah, I'm only a red chipper player and I'm very happy in any given year if I can hit the 5 figure mark. Most of the time I don't make it.

I really only know a couple of posters here well. On the top of my list of the good guys is KJ. I have been following his posts for probably 15 years across many different internet sites and have yet to find any consistences in any of his postings. I believe what he posts is true and not bullshit.

I believe, I first saw a post by Mickeycrimm, over on BJ21 where he posted his life story. I believe he is posting good information since I have been to Laughlin and can confirm alot of what he said. I will add him to the good list. And it is a shame how some posters derailed Mickey's Laughlin thread.

The only other poster I'm familiar with is Moses who has been banned from several other forum sites. I won't classify him as either a good or bad guy. It seems to me he is really to pound the shit out of anyone at any time which is definitely not good. This attitude has got him banned. I do enjoy reading his posts.

I will leave it up to others to say who will give good trustworthy information.

What do you play? The on!y info here is mostly mathematical theories or methodology. I found out that picking up an occasional tip or two and applying it to your own personal style of play is probably the best way to learn. Any further attempt and you're labeled a know-it-all. I picked up some info from Arci, Rob,,et al-so best to just use your own mind.