"More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ
"More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ
"More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ
Why don't you grill the ditz about it? They are, after all, your questions.
The ditz doesn't seem to want to offer much info, I think he's ducking the questions for some reason.
So I'll ask you...
If a patron cashes a winning ticket for $10K or more, or bets a total of $10K+ in cash, is the casino required to file a CTR?
78255585899=317*13723*17989=(310+7)*[(13730-7)*(100*100+7979+10)]-->LOVE avatar@137_371_179_791, or 137_371_17[3^2]_7[3^2]1, 1=V-->Ace, low. 78255585899-->99858555287=(99858555288-1)=[-1+(72*2227)*(722777-100000)]={-1+(72*2227)*[(2000+700777+20000)-100000]}-->1_722_227_277_772_1. 7×8×2×5×5×5×8×5×8×9×9=362880000=(1000000000-6√97020000-100000)-->169_721. (7/8×2/5×5/5×8/5×8/9×9)={[(-.1+.9)]^2×(6+1)}-->1961=√4*2.24; (1/7×8/2×5/5×5/8×5/8×9/9)={1/[7×(-.2+1)^2]}-->1721=[(10*10/4)/(√4+110)].
"More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ
78255585899=317*13723*17989=(310+7)*[(13730-7)*(100*100+7979+10)]-->LOVE avatar@137_371_179_791, or 137_371_17[3^2]_7[3^2]1, 1=V-->Ace, low. 78255585899-->99858555287=(99858555288-1)=[-1+(72*2227)*(722777-100000)]={-1+(72*2227)*[(2000+700777+20000)-100000]}-->1_722_227_277_772_1. 7×8×2×5×5×5×8×5×8×9×9=362880000=(1000000000-6√97020000-100000)-->169_721. (7/8×2/5×5/5×8/5×8/9×9)={[(-.1+.9)]^2×(6+1)}-->1961=√4*2.24; (1/7×8/2×5/5×5/8×5/8×9/9)={1/[7×(-.2+1)^2]}-->1721=[(10*10/4)/(√4+110)].
78255585899=317*13723*17989=(310+7)*[(13730-7)*(100*100+7979+10)]-->LOVE avatar@137_371_179_791, or 137_371_17[3^2]_7[3^2]1, 1=V-->Ace, low. 78255585899-->99858555287=(99858555288-1)=[-1+(72*2227)*(722777-100000)]={-1+(72*2227)*[(2000+700777+20000)-100000]}-->1_722_227_277_772_1. 7×8×2×5×5×5×8×5×8×9×9=362880000=(1000000000-6√97020000-100000)-->169_721. (7/8×2/5×5/5×8/5×8/9×9)={[(-.1+.9)]^2×(6+1)}-->1961=√4*2.24; (1/7×8/2×5/5×5/8×5/8×9/9)={1/[7×(-.2+1)^2]}-->1721=[(10*10/4)/(√4+110)].
Finally, something we are in agreement about! Actually you should have done so about 6 months ago. Because of mention of this site at least on two occasions at one of the more legitimate forums, there was twice, a number of good legitimate members of the AP/Gambling community that visited this site to take a look. A handful signed up, posted once or twice, of those moses and Midwest player have stuck around. But we had the chance for many more, but most took a look and vanished because of you jackoffs.
And I sometimes think the other way as well, that mickey, myself, jbjb, RS, the other AP's and even non-AP that try to contribute in a positive manner should all stop posting and just let this site be you 3 or 4 angry, bitter "haters" talking to yourselves, shades of gambler's glen, when I last checked in a year or so ago. That is most likely what this site is destine to become.
As mickey and red try to make people believe they know the answers to the $10k question by using the "everybody KNOWS I know the answer to THAT easy question" strategy "so there's no need to actually answer it" as a cover-up for their phoniness, I have no problem saying "I don't know". And why is that? Because if this pair of geniuses had the abilities to go back and read history, they'd see my win was broken down into multiple similar winning tickets at different casinos.
Not so problematic that mickey has no clue because he's never been anything but a two-bit gambler with a bag full of BS. The interesting part of this is how redietz--oh he of "5 and 6-figure winners"--also has no clue. Anybody want to guess why?
"More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ
Is this some kind of trick question? Maybe some kind of gottch ya" thing that I am not seeing?
I am not an expert in winning tickets totaling $10k as I don't believe I have ever had one (my late partner did).
But in blackjack or other table games it is even worse than that. It's not just a total bet or cashout of $10k, but buy-in as well. A 10k buyin requires a CTR. A player may not win a dime just buy in. AND it is even worse than that. It is buy-in over a single day (casino day). So a player buying in for $3k, 4 different times during the day, the casino is required to issue a CTR. lol. And it could be the same $3000. Suppose he breaks even or wins/losses some small amount, cashes out and buys in 3 more times with that same money. He gets a CTR. Makes no sense. And not only that, but the casino is responsible for tracking that....even if a player is playing unrated.
However, I personally have never understood the negative connotation associated with CTR (other than it wastes time). For AP's, CTR are easily explained. Even for a recreational non-AP player, a CTR is no big deal. Easily offset in most cases. If you are playing enough to win that kind of money, you probably have losses to offset it.
IMO, what is far worse than CTR is SAR (suspicious activity reports), The player person that generates the report often doesn't even know that the report has been generated and sent. And the triggers for such a report are very vague. In a bank frequent deposits and withdraws of just a couple thousand dollars (it is supposed to be $3000) can generate a SAR. In a casino a cashier that thinks a player may be breaking up cashouts can generate a SAR (without even informing the player). There is way too much discretion.
CTR is not that big of a deal. It essentially gets warehoused and ignored unless there is something else that causes further review such as an SAR or an income tax audit or similar situation.
You are better off not trying to avoid the $10,000 transaction by using multiple transactions (Structuring) as that will lead to further examination.
Didn't Caesars get in trouble a few years ago for not filing CTR's?
Looks like their problem was more related to SARs.
https://www.fincen.gov/sites/default...ASSESSMENT.pdf
The CTR form and requirements include SSN. Therefore, the logical assumption would be that they can refuse the transaction if they would then be unable to complete the form. But I don't know that for a fact. If I were a bank, I would refuse without a social.
The casino is supposed to keep track of multiple transactions, and they do have procedures for that. For someone like Kewl ( or at least per Kewl's question) who may buy in several times a day, anonymously, if they are on the ball they should at some point ask for full ID so they can file the report or refuse his cash. But realistically, are they watching that closely and do they really want to create the hassle and send him packing? Both the player and the casino hate the law so would it be surprising if the system failed in such cases.
They DO start badgering you for your social if you are buying in for a lot of cash and it looks like you might approach $10,000. Of course, the player is free to decline while still under 10k . If you hit $10,000 and refuse to give a social they will stop dealing to you.
How about for machine play?
For example, say you are an AP on a play.
Your main objective is to hit the jackpot, but you also use your players card so that you can accumulate cash back, free play, comp and whatever other offers that make the play +EV.
Should you find yourself stuck for $10K+ chasing the play, does the casino issue a CTR?
I'm not sure that the requirements for a players card include providing a ss#...assuming a players card does not require a ss#, will a casino rep approach the player and request a ss# so that the CTR from can be completed?
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