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  1. #1
    I haven't visited this forum often enough to know who wants to provide useful information, and who wants to troll it and call others names. I have no use for any name calling and bullshit information. Yeah, I'm only a red chipper player and I'm very happy in any given year if I can hit the 5 figure mark. Most of the time I don't make it.

    I really only know a couple of posters here well. On the top of my list of the good guys is KJ. I have been following his posts for probably 15 years across many different internet sites and have yet to find any consistences in any of his postings. I believe what he posts is true and not bullshit.

    I believe, I first saw a post by Mickeycrimm, over on BJ21 where he posted his life story. I believe he is posting good information since I have been to Laughlin and can confirm alot of what he said. I will add him to the good list. And it is a shame how some posters derailed Mickey's Laughlin thread.

    The only other poster I'm familiar with is Moses who has been banned from several other forum sites. I won't classify him as either a good or bad guy. It seems to me he is really to pound the shit out of anyone at any time which is definitely not good. This attitude has got him banned. I do enjoy reading his posts.

    I will leave it up to others to say who will give good trustworthy information.
    Last edited by Midwest Player; 10-14-2018 at 10:19 AM.

  2. #2
    Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    I really only know a couple of posters here well. On the top of my list of the good guys is KJ. I have been following his posts for probably 15 years across many different internet sites and have yet to find any consistences in any of his postings. I believe what he posts is true and not bullshit..
    I was sitting at a table the other day with a couple of guys that were making KJ type money. Could be the old saying "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas." One guy employed Hi Lo. The other emloyed the "tweety bird" count. Now I walk through last night and happened to notice the HiLO guy was still sitting at the same table. He looked like he hadn't eaten, slept, or showered since I seen him a couple days prior. Now he has that beaten down WFT just happened look and was now employing the "HIA" count.

    KJ is a bright kid with savvy. Therefore, I value his opinion. But let's not fool ourselves. Probably none of us are choir boys. My cousin is a choir director at a church in Vegas. They came up for a visit awhile back. I can tell you even choir boys are bullshitters. A "guy" comes back to the table after going up to the bar to buy "his" beer a couple of us has already bought him a round. He says, "I have such personal magnitude, I can talk to anyone. You saw the girl at the bar I was talking to? She reaaallly likes me." Uh, THAT was a hooker. "Oh."

    Maybe some should just enjoy the experience and stop thinking they need to learn or teach with every post? Just a thought.


    Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    The only other poster I'm familiar with is Moses who has been banned from several other forum sites. I won't classify him as either a good or bad guy. It seems to me he is really to pound the shit out of anyone at any time which is definitely not good and this attitude has got him banned. I do enjoy reading his posts.
    I'm only aware of being banned from the infamous BJTF. Who hasn't? I've only posted on 4 forums and to my knowledge this one and the other 2 have not banned me. It was the terms like "several" that used to piss me off at BJTF. Perhaps you will enlighten me on the "several" forums that have banned me since you seem to know.

    If you have read other forums, then you know Norm is widely regarded as a horses ass. Flash is a well known fraud. So if I got banned by a horses ass for standing up to a fraud? That's cool, I can live with that.

  3. #3
    I'm RS on both wov and bjtf.

    For the most part, you can just ignore Alan Mendelson, Rob Singer, blackhole, Bill Yung, Barney, and it seems like 1 or 2 more.
    #FreeTyde

  4. #4
    I wish that I could contribute something gambling-related of value to edify and educate folks, but as a recreational gambler who plays craps and slots that ain't likely to happen too often.

    So I hang out for my own amusement.

    Wicked world.
    What, Me Worry?

  5. #5
    Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    I have been following his posts for probably 15 years across many different internet sites and have yet to find any consistences in any of his postings. I believe what he posts is true and not bullshit.
    What the hell happened to the edit button? I meant inconsistencies.

  6. #6
    Originally Posted by MisterV View Post
    I wish that I could contribute something gambling-related of value to edify and educate folks, but as a recreational gambler who plays craps and slots that ain't likely to happen too often.

    So I hang out for my own amusement.

    Wicked world.
    At least your are being truthful. I will add you to the good guy list.

  7. #7
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    I'm RS on both wov and bjtf.

    For the most part, you can just ignore Alan Mendelson, Rob Singer, blackhole, Bill Yung, Barney, and it seems like 1 or 2 more.
    Yeah, good posts from RS on BJTF. You are on my good guy list.

  8. #8
    What a ridiculous post....good guy/bad guy list?....are you 12 yrs old?...You should have added a moron list and put yourself right on top
    Last edited by Keystone; 10-14-2018 at 01:57 PM.

  9. #9
    Originally Posted by Keystone View Post
    What a ridiculous post....good guy/bad guy list?....are you 12 yrs old?...You should have put a moron list and put yourself right on top
    LOL. My quarter says you just made the bad guy list. Perhaps start a pole/poll.

  10. #10
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Perhaps you will enlighten me on the "several" forums that have banned me since you seem to know.
    Okay, maybe several was the wrong word. However, several times you were banned at Norm's site and then given more chances. If I remember correctly many of those bannings were due to threats of violence.

    Also I and others believe you were posting as "Tater" on blackjackinfo and threatened KJ you were actually coming to Vegas to kick his ass. I sure don't know why. However, it was enough of a threat to get banned on blackjackinfo also.

  11. #11
    There are no "good guys" in the land of casino gambling. Why the heck would anyone think that?
    78255585899=317*13723*17989=(310+7)*[(13730-7)*(100*100+7979+10)]-->LOVE avatar@137_371_179_791, or 137_371_17[3^2]_7[3^2]1, 1=V-->Ace, low. 78255585899-->99858555287=(99858555288-1)=[-1+(72*2227)*(722777-100000)]={-1+(72*2227)*[(2000+700777+20000)-100000]}-->1_722_227_277_772_1. 7×8×2×5×5×5×8×5×8×9×9=362880000=(1000000000-6√97020000-100000)-->169_721. (7/8×2/5×5/5×8/5×8/9×9)={[(-.1+.9)]^2×(6+1)}-->1961=√4*2.24; (1/7×8/2×5/5×5/8×5/8×9/9)={1/[7×(-.2+1)^2]}-->1721=[(10*10/4)/(√4+110)].

  12. #12
    Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    I haven't visited this forum often enough to know who wants to provide useful information, and who wants to troll it and call others names. I have no use for any name calling and bullshit information. Yeah, I'm only a red chipper player and I'm very happy in any given year if I can hit the 5 figure mark. Most of the time I don't make it.

    I really only know a couple of posters here well. On the top of my list of the good guys is KJ. I have been following his posts for probably 15 years across many different internet sites and have yet to find any consistences in any of his postings. I believe what he posts is true and not bullshit.

    I believe, I first saw a post by Mickeycrimm, over on BJ21 where he posted his life story. I believe he is posting good information since I have been to Laughlin and can confirm alot of what he said. I will add him to the good list. And it is a shame how some posters derailed Mickey's Laughlin thread.

    The only other poster I'm familiar with is Moses who has been banned from several other forum sites. I won't classify him as either a good or bad guy. It seems to me he is really to pound the shit out of anyone at any time which is definitely not good. This attitude has got him banned. I do enjoy reading his posts.

    I will leave it up to others to say who will give good trustworthy information.
    What do you play? The on!y info here is mostly mathematical theories or methodology. I found out that picking up an occasional tip or two and applying it to your own personal style of play is probably the best way to learn. Any further attempt and you're labeled a know-it-all. I picked up some info from Arci, Rob,,et al-so best to just use your own mind.

  13. #13
    Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Perhaps you will enlighten me on the "several" forums that have banned me since you seem to know.
    Okay, maybe several was the wrong word. However, several times you were banned at Norm's site and then given more chances. If I remember correctly many of those bannings were due to threats of violence..
    As KJ points out, Flash and others had an agenda. For whatever reason, he chose me, like he does most newbies who do not submit to his ideas. I took his crap from August 2013 until September 2016. Then I had enough and decided to GIVE back. I admit, I'm the wrong guy to get fired up.

    I think it was you, but maybe Tarzan wrote they couldn't understand why I was banned as they didn't read anything off course. That's because Norm deleted posts I was simply responding to where I was threatened first. "Threat of violence" is another term they love to employ to dramatize the situation. I wrote T3 privately because it was Flash who threatened me with T3. We resolved it off forum. Notice the blue ink bullshitter rarely posts as well as his "legions" (another overblown word) of followers. Why is that? Because Flash is also the follower.

    Originally Posted by Midwest Player View Post
    Also I and others believe you were posting as "Tater" on blackjackinfo and threatened KJ you were actually coming to Vegas to kick his ass. I sure don't know why. However, it was enough of a threat to get banned on blackjackinfo also.
    Tater is not me. There is a group that enjoys reading the forums. Particularly some of Zee's off the wall stuff. There was a Moses who was banned on blackjackinfo in 2010. That was not me. I didn't even know about forums until August 2013. Tater represented a round table of guys who contributed. Bobby, Skip, Lou, the Pulling Guard to name a few. He is a throwback to the old midwest. Like Gunsmoke. But he is harmless. I can't imagine him walking across the street for a free hot dog, let alone going to kick ass in Vegas. But I have seen a couple of guys choose him that wish they didn't. Tater is a very bright guy on several levels. I will bounce ideas off him on deeper level discussions in blackjack. But for the most part we all just joke around.

    KJ admits that thread did not sit well with alot of players and it didn't with me either. But you'll have to refresh my memory. Physical altercations are not at all unusual in my neck of the woods. It's pretty much a way of life. But one doesn't have to look for it. Unless one holds up in a cave it will find a person soon enough.
    Last edited by Moses; 10-14-2018 at 03:51 PM.

  14. #14
    Hello, this is MCAP.

    Barney is a not a bad guy. Prozema just doesn’t like that he wants to call a machine in an advantageous mode a slut machine. I think it fits because the machine is currently expected to put out more than a machine usually does.

  15. #15
    Okay. I went over and looked at the thread. I didn't realize you actually started the thread. You kind of like to stir shit up and then watch it unfold doncha. Just like you're doing now and have done numerous times at BJTF. I don't see where Bobby ever threatened anyone. But I do see now where you picked your spots to keep the pot stirred.

    I have the ability to count 4 columns of cards and side count Aces. So if there were clumping, I'd be able to recognize it like the old Boston "more than a feeling" tune. I told Bobby it would be worth it to drive to Vegas, see my cous, and check it out. Bobby knows I'm not the type of person who takes much shit when a bully was picking on one of my older gent friends and others around him.
    Last edited by Moses; 10-14-2018 at 09:15 PM.

  16. #16
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Okay. I went over and looked at the thread. I didn't realize you actually started the thread. You kind of like to stir shit up and then watch it unfold doncha. Just like you're doing now and have done numerous times at BJTF. I don't see where Bobby ever threatened anyone. But I do see now where you picked your spots to keep the pot stirred.

    I have the ability to count 4 columns of cards and side count Aces. So if there were clumping, I'd be able to recognize it like the old Boston "more than a feeling" tune. I told Bobby it would be worth it to drive to Vegas, see my cous, and check it out. Bobby knows I'm not the type of person who takes much shit when a bully was picking on one of my older gent friends and others around him.
    The thread I started over at blackjackinfo had nothing to do with either you or Tater. It involved suspected cheating and was directed to KJ. Tater jumped in the thread who I still think is Moses and implied Moses is coming to Vegas to kick KJ's ass. There is no way to interpret this post except as a threat.

    Read it again. Where I come from this would be considered a threat. Tater says:
    I am not Moses. You can ask BigJer. He has met us both. I've explained it to you in a PM. However, you keep harassing me. But the good news is you get to meet Moses real soon. He's decided to come to Vegas. Find you so you can take your girly rants up with him personally. If you have it in you. His words. Not Mine. Actually, he used a stronger word than "girly."

    Now if you want to meet me I'm easy to find. I'm the biggest guy in the sportsbook. Also, one of the most easy going. PM me and I will let you know which one. Or you can sit and talk to both of us at the same time. Except I don't think you will be having a folksy chat with Moses.

    Yes, the Tater plays $5 tables. KJ, you have a problem with that? Like Moses, I still work hard to advance my game. I enjoy a challenge. There is always one more thing you can do. I don't place the same value on money as most people. Houses, cars who needs it? I've been a casino rat since 1980. I enjoy sleeping under the stars. Since you referred Zen Zone, I happened to read what you think about stinky homeless people.

    Man, you are really full of yourself. I expect Moses will knock you off your pedestal and your thrown where you sit in judgement of others.

  17. #17
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    I'm RS on both wov and bjtf.

    For the most part, you can just ignore Alan Mendelson, Rob Singer, blackhole, Bill Yung, Barney, and it seems like 1 or 2 more.
    First of all, I’m a retired old man with no AP experience what so ever. I visited and played in casinos all over the world. Whenever I gambled throughout my adult life it was always treated as entertainment. Great foods by known chefs, awesome accommodations, shows, boxing, shopping for the wife, along with endless interesting nearby sites and fun entertainments outside the perimeters of different casinos all over the world.

    Never once did I ever consider going to a casino with expectations of earning money to live and support my family. I couldn’t even phantom sitting at a video poker machine like Bob Dancer wrote about, playing as fast as possible with one hand, while feeding another with 100-dollar bills not to waste time trying to eventually gain the mathematical edge with casino promotions before he gets thrown out, or goes broke. If that isn’t still considered gambling, I don’t know what is.

    So, when I contribute a post, it’s usually an observation as an outsider when AP is involved. I’ve read about some famous successful AP moves and their financial gains and believe it cause the casinos themselves printed it. I believe what poker pros can make because it’s public knowledge. But, because a guy like RS and all the others that come here and proclaim great financial success beating up on casinos without a single ounce of proof, I can’t help but go into doubtful mode.

    RS and others claim I don’t add to this site simply because I don’t drink the AP cool-aid. I read over the last 30 posts by RS. If the steak he ate somewhere years ago was the only contribution throughout those posts he should be banned.

    Just read what these weirdos like Midwest Player, Mosses, talk about in this thread. Look at the name of this thread. Them along with the gay guy just bring their arguments here after being banned for the same nonsense elsewhere.

    Dan moved around a lot of posts and I think my thoughts about Kewlj were lost so I just copied some of it and posted it here below. By the way, most of the AP’s here are from the WOV and are the same group calling for everyone’s head here who don’t agree. Below are known facts about Mike S. which confirms how phony most from there (like RS) who post here actually are.

    Funny how the members of the wizard of bullshit never talk about their fearless leader Mike, who’s only claim to fame from gambling was going broke. Then he colluded with illegal banking transferring from USA to off shore gambling sites to drag himself out of the gutter. Then he even used his alleged famous name to guarantee payment from off shore sites if members were not paid. That in of itself should confirm his true snaky skumbag addictive gambling intentions.

    All Kewlj worries and talks about is being rejected from such a fucking asshole and his site. That says all anyone here needs to know about you Kewlj.


    This also tells the truth about all the other phonies from WOV. Funny how they post there all the while being forced feed what they can or can't say. Not one of they call out the lying leader, or the goon moderators. Yet, they want to come here and rule while in complete denial of the WOV.
    Last edited by blackhole; 10-15-2018 at 05:45 AM.

  18. #18
    Imagine the king of casino game math and outcomes, the one and only Wizard of Vegas is nothing but a losing, lying, bullshit artist, promoting illegal online gaming in the USA to survive. You phonies should go choke on chicken nuggets.

    This behavior and denial is no different than the present left wing liberal MOB.

  19. #19
    I can hardly wait for the RS__ hat and badge pictures to go along with the Crimm¯¯ wallet and belt pictures.
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  20. #20
    Originally Posted by blackhole View Post
    First of all, I’m a retired old man with no AP experience what so ever.
    I'm only going to respond to this, because the rest is just complete stupidity.

    Since you have NO experience, just STFU! As usual, you have no damn clue what is going on in the casinos.

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