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  1. #21
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    If I had KJ's money to lose, I' burn mine.
    I get the feeling some here think I am in a much stronger financial position than I am.

    I have made a little over 1.2 million dollars as an AP. Just under a million (thanks to the last 7 days) from blackjack. That milestone has no significant meaning except to me, because early on I had a plan for that target amount from blackjack.

    So anyway, living what I think is pretty modestly, and taxes and just general living expenses, have taken just about half that amount. That is my current net worth, about half that amount. And of that, about half THAT amount is currently tied up in real estate. So I don't have as much wealth as some of you think and especially liquid wealth.
    If I'm reading correctly, you lost 10% of your cash reserves in a week? Your primary equity position is in the property you reside and that's not strong because you purchased it recently. I would assume others are contributing to rent etc., It appears you're doing well working for your money. But your money is not working for you?

  2. #22
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I can and will say that I don't use markers.
    Then you are either buying chips at the table with cash, or bringing chips already in your possession to the table?

    Is there another way to play...without chips?

  3. #23
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Nobody anywhere near their right mind would answer those questions, obviously. So why even ask them?
    If we don't know who kj is, then what is the risk of him answering honestly without your interference?

    He's already admitted to losing 10K+ per day on back-to-back days, so how does he manage that without markers?

    The buy-ins have to come from somewhere.
    1) Given the fact that multiple people on this forum have indicated they wanted to meet kewlJ in person either for demonstrations or wagers, there is reason to believe certain posters have a real interest in knowing who he is, possibly for nefarious reasons. There is no way for kewlJ to delineate if the reasons for wanting to meet him were as posted.

    2) Assuming Mr. Mendelson and Mr. Argentino's "casino contacts" are real, multiple casino management might be reading and interested in how blackjack players manage their funds. Why share that?

    3) Mr. Argentino has reported ad nauseum that he knows where kewlJ lives and such. If that's the case, why would kewlJ report how he manages his funds? All it does is make him more vulnerable.


    There is zero reason for him to even consider answering the questions you posed.
    Once again redietz, you're showing what an idiotic mind you have.

    Kew's a fool for writing any of this stuff about himself....if it were real. But because he craves attention as well as an unusual amount of anonymous online relevance, we get stories such as this.

    Yes red, I know who he really is, and based solely on where/how he lives it would be a VERY good bet that he has nowhere near $29k to throw away. But you know he only says this red, because he'll soon tell us how "the long-term math came thru for him AGAIN--whoopee!!" In other words, he was due, and he once again had another winning year!

    Wise up.

  4. #24
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    If I had KJ's money to lose, I' burn mine.
    Yes, there is something that says I will not continue losing like this. It is math. And despite your efforts of sticking voodoo pins in your KJ doll you can't change that, Blackhole. I have mathematics on my side.
    Careful Kewl--that ain't a pin he's sticking in the doll.

  5. #25
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Once again redietz, you're showing what an idiotic mind you have.

    Kew's a fool for writing any of this stuff about himself....if it were real. But because he craves attention as well as an unusual amount of anonymous online relevance, we get stories such as this.

    Yes red, I know who he really is, and based solely on where/how he lives it would be a VERY good bet that he has nowhere near $29k to throw away. But you know he only says this red, because he'll soon tell us how "the long-term math came thru for him AGAIN--whoopee!!" In other words, he was due, and he once again had another winning year!

    Wise up.
    Among your alternative reality babbling, you have managed to state something true. (That is known as the blind squirrel theory )

    I don't have 29k to "throw away".

    But I didn't throw 29k away. You thinking that I did and insinuating that, just once again proves that you have no clue about advantage play, particularly blackjack card counting advantage play.

    I mean I sort of expected one of you clueless people would say something along those lines or some sort of reference that I should have stopped playing a week ago. But really, I thought it would be Alan. Doesn't matter...you two are almost inter-changeable at this point. Both clueless about advantage play and living in an alternative (fantasy) reality.

  6. #26
    I don't think it matters how kewlj got the money to the casino. If he doesn't use markers he's using cash or chips or checks or wire transfers or his Mom has it in her purse or whatever. It makes no difference to me. Carrying $20,000 in cash is not unusual for people who are used to carrying cash. For anyone shocked that someone carries $10k or $20k in their jacket pocket only tells me they've never carried big cash themselves.

    My question for kewlj:

    Holy shit, did you get physically ill losing that fucking much in one fucked up week?

  7. #27
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Holy shit, did you get physically ill losing that fucking much in one fucked up week?
    He didn't lose. He was ahead in EV but on the wrong side of varience. LOL

  8. #28
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Once again redietz, you're showing what an idiotic mind you have.

    Kew's a fool for writing any of this stuff about himself....if it were real. But because he craves attention as well as an unusual amount of anonymous online relevance, we get stories such as this.

    Yes red, I know who he really is, and based solely on where/how he lives it would be a VERY good bet that he has nowhere near $29k to throw away. But you know he only says this red, because he'll soon tell us how "the long-term math came thru for him AGAIN--whoopee!!" In other words, he was due, and he once again had another winning year!

    Wise up.
    Among your alternative reality babbling, you have managed to state something true. (That is known as the blind squirrel theory )

    I don't have 29k to "throw away".

    But I didn't throw 29k away. You thinking that I did and insinuating that, just once again proves that you have no clue about advantage play, particularly blackjack card counting advantage play.

    I mean I sort of expected one of you clueless people would say something along those lines or some sort of reference that I should have stopped playing a week ago. But really, I thought it would be Alan. Doesn't matter...you two are almost inter-changeable at this point. Both clueless about advantage play and living in an alternative (fantasy) reality.
    These guys have no problem believing in the laws of probability when a bet (or series of bets) is made and the casino has the edge. Yet whenever the player enjoys a similar advantage (favorable count,close to a must hit progressive, sloppy dealer,100%+ vp paytable,middling a sports bet,generous play through requirements for online deposit bonus,etc.), the laws of probability suddenly cease to exist. In other words, they're very clearly trolls.
    Last edited by tableplay; 10-29-2018 at 03:06 AM.

  9. #29
    Tableplay... the laws of probability will never change. It's just that some gamblers get wrongly convicted.

    What we need are more probability police to be sure the laws are enforced.

  10. #30
    Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Once again redietz, you're showing what an idiotic mind you have.

    Kew's a fool for writing any of this stuff about himself....if it were real. But because he craves attention as well as an unusual amount of anonymous online relevance, we get stories such as this.

    Yes red, I know who he really is, and based solely on where/how he lives it would be a VERY good bet that he has nowhere near $29k to throw away. But you know he only says this red, because he'll soon tell us how "the long-term math came thru for him AGAIN--whoopee!!" In other words, he was due, and he once again had another winning year!

    Wise up.
    Among your alternative reality babbling, you have managed to state something true. (That is known as the blind squirrel theory )

    I don't have 29k to "throw away".

    But I didn't throw 29k away. You thinking that I did and insinuating that, just once again proves that you have no clue about advantage play, particularly blackjack card counting advantage play.

    I mean I sort of expected one of you clueless people would say something along those lines or some sort of reference that I should have stopped playing a week ago. But really, I thought it would be Alan. Doesn't matter...you two are almost inter-changeable at this point. Both clueless about advantage play and living in an alternative (fantasy) reality.
    These guys have no problem believing in the laws of probability when a bet (or series of bets) is made and the casino has the edge. Yet whenever the player enjoys a similar advantage (favorable count,close to a must hit progressive, sloppy dealer,100%+ vp paytable,middling a sports bet,generous play through requirements for online deposit bonus,etc.), the laws of probability suddenly cease to exist. In other words, they're very clearly trolls.
    Anyone who plays anything at offshore online casinos does have a big advantage over those who dont: they're 100%+ dumbasses.

  11. #31
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I can and will say that I don't use markers.
    Then you are either buying chips at the table with cash, or bringing chips already in your possession to the table?

    Is there another way to play...without chips?
    Coach, a long long time ago, and for a very long long time, you could have asked Rob about getting a 57K bankroll in and out of casinos. Why didn't you think of asking Rob?
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  12. #32
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Your comment makes zero sense. It would be completely and idiotically inappropriate for him to explain how that is accomplished, with or without markers.
    Well I can and will say that I don't use markers. That will surprise no one familiar with me. I have frequently stated that I play blackjack unrated, and avoid the cage as much as possible because that is the best opportunity for a headshot photo.

    But I certainly am not going to get into how I handle things more than that, especially on THIS forum. If it was a legitimate forum, where I could give some tips or suggestions on that subject, that might be of benefit to some other players, I probably would. But that is NOT this site.
    You're so full of it kew. You create this story of losing real money but winning a bunch of phantom bucks just to get the spotlight on you once again. And within your silly tale you do what you always do when you try to push a point across your arbitrary finish line--you claim "the people who know me" this and "the people who know me" that.

    What anyone with a brain knows is that any true "AP" would NEVER go around saying any of the nonsense you do....esp. if all these mystery people "know" you. So many of you phonies should have stayed in school so you wouldn't get exposed so easily for your pretend online personalities.

  13. #33
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Originally Posted by redietz View Post
    Your comment makes zero sense. It would be completely and idiotically inappropriate for him to explain how that is accomplished, with or without markers.
    Well I can and will say that I don't use markers. That will surprise no one familiar with me. I have frequently stated that I play blackjack unrated, and avoid the cage as much as possible because that is the best opportunity for a headshot photo.

    But I certainly am not going to get into how I handle things more than that, especially on THIS forum. If it was a legitimate forum, where I could give some tips or suggestions on that subject, that might be of benefit to some other players, I probably would. But that is NOT this site.
    You're so full of it kew. You create this story of losing real money but winning a bunch of phantom bucks just to get the spotlight on you once again. And within your silly tale you do what you always do when you try to push a point across your arbitrary finish line--you claim "the people who know me" this and "the people who know me" that.

    What anyone with a brain knows is that any true "AP" would NEVER go around saying any of the nonsense you do....esp. if all these mystery people "know" you. So many of you phonies should have stayed in school so you wouldn't get exposed so easily for your pretend online personalities.
    Robocchio is showing how ignorant and stupid he is.....again.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  14. #34
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post

    You're so full of it kew. You create this story of losing real money but winning a bunch of phantom bucks just to get the spotlight on you once again. And within your silly tale you do what you always do when you try to push a point across your arbitrary finish line--you claim "the people who know me" this and "the people who know me" that.

    What anyone with a brain knows is that any true "AP" would NEVER go around saying any of the nonsense you do....esp. if all these mystery people "know" you. So many of you phonies should have stayed in school so you wouldn't get exposed so easily for your pretend online personalities.
    If I had a day like Wednesday I'd certainly wouldn't have played Thursday or Friday. The worst I ever got down in sports was $10k. I remember taking a shower and cussing at the top of my lungs, thinking I was home alone. My lady friend had come over to surprise me. I come walking out and she has this look on her face. lol While I was in the shower my team scored 6 runs to take the lead. I rarely watch games I bet anymore.
    Last edited by Moses; 10-29-2018 at 08:35 AM.

  15. #35
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Carrying $20,000 in cash is not unusual for people who are used to carrying cash.
    Based on what he's written in the past, I wouldn't expect kj to be carrying $20K in cash, or expect his mother to be carrying too much cash in her purse on his behalf.

    He's explained how cash buy-ins draw more scrutiny than does bringing chips to the table, and how chips make wonging in and out of multiple tables a smoother operation.

    So I'm interested on how he managed to get the $30K into action.

    Assuming multiple casinos, does he bring his entire chip inventory with him to work every day? Or just a percentage of his inventory for each casino on that day's route? If he taps out of the chips he brought, does he then use cash, or go home and get more chips, or just move on to the next location...like a stop-loss measure?

    He broke his losses down to the penny, so he must have a record or recollection of the transactions...buy-ins, cash-outs, color-ups, etc. It's interesting and no harm in asking, so no need to stifle the inquisitor.

    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Coach, a long long time ago, and for a very long long time, you could have asked Rob about getting a 57K bankroll in and out of casinos. Why didn't you think of asking Rob?
    Rob explained that before I had a chance to ask, he wrote about carrying cash and playing near his bank so that he could reload if necessary.

  16. #36
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    It's interesting and no harm in asking, so no need to stifle the inquisitor..
    Great line to use on a Ref.

  17. #37
    Originally Posted by coach belly View Post
    Rob explained that before I had a chance to ask, he wrote about carrying cash and playing near his bank so that he could reload if necessary.
    As have I coach.

    First stop with the "mother's purse nonsense" both you and Alan have posted in the last few hours. Don't continue down this path of Rob Singer bullshit. Isn't one Rob Singer asshole on this site enough? I do not live with my mother. She lives miles away in a 55+ adult community. She does not drive me, nor is responsible for my playing funds as my late partner used to be. My mom had an interest in becoming involved after my partner passed, but that only lasted about 2 weeks. So just stop with this shit, if you expect a respectful answer from me.

    I do use a chip inventory for my local rotation of games. A chip inventory allows you to enter a game quickly and at times with no interaction with pit. It also allows you to exit a game without that "color up" interaction. And thirdly it may eliminate the need to cash out at the cage, where the casino has the best opportunity to get a head shot photo, if they desire. These are all major pluses. The downside is that it takes some time and effort to manage a chip inventory properly. You want to have just enough chips to enter games at locations you play regularly, but not excess at any property. My late partner became an expert in his handling of my chip inventory. I didn't realize how good he was and how beneficial his handling of this responsibility was.

    In addition, I have two banks, one a local Nevada bank and one a national type bank, where I have arranged higher than normal ATM withdraw amounts. All you have to do is go into the bank and explain your needs to the manager and they are most accommodating. Making these arrangements with a national type bank, solves some of the problem of carrying funds when traveling as well.

  18. #38
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    stop with the "mother's purse nonsense" both you and Alan have posted in the last few hours.
    I was responding to Alan's suggestion that your mother could carry your cash. He only brought her up because you wrote some time ago that your mother was driving you. You never explained that it was for only 2 weeks and no longer, until now.

    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    I have two banks, one a local Nevada bank and one a national type bank, where I have arranged higher than normal ATM withdraw amounts.
    To be clear, if you tap out of your chip inventory on hand for the casino you are visiting, then you hit the ATM and buy back in with cash? Is that correct?

    Understanding that you are playing green & black chips w/$25-$200 spread, and should you win $10K or so at a single table or group of nearby tables...don't they ask you to color up before you leave? Do you typically comply, or just carry 100 or more chips away from the table, and then stash them in your pocket and leave?

  19. #39
    In furtherance of Coach's question, when you do win, I assume that you can't just walk out with all chips. At some point you do have to go to the cage and convert some to cash or you wouldn't be able to live. Is there a process for that. At 100K profit a year you have to be going to the cage fairly often I would think. Do you have others make the conversion (that is what I used to do). I got in trouble years ago after a big win at Paris. I cashed just a small amount at the cage there and tried to cash the rest at Bally. I got pulled aside and questioned. They didn't really buy the argument that I was not done for the night and just was going to play at Bally after the big hand at Paris. But they didn't really have anything either as where was the crime?

  20. #40
    Originally Posted by regnis View Post
    I got in trouble years ago after a big win at Paris. I cashed just a small amount at the cage there and tried to cash the rest at Bally.
    You can use and/or cash out Paris' chips at Bally's ?

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