Question for APs

[mickeycrimm]

Kewlj = Fairy tale (pun intended)

Fairy Tale
noun

1) a story, usually for children, about elves, hobgoblins, dragons, fairies, or other magical creatures.
2) an incredible or misleading amount of statements, accounts, or beliefs:

blackhole = moron
noun
a stupid person
fool, idiot, ass, blockhead, dunce, dolt, ignoramus, imbecile, cretin, dullard, simpleton, clod, nitwit, halfwit, dope,chump, dimwit, dingbat, dipstick, goober, coot, goon, dumbo, dummy, ditz, fathead, numbskull, airhead, butthead....

[redietz]

I seem to recall that a blackjack dealer goes through about three eight-deck shoes an hour, with about 15 hands a shoe for a full table. Be my guest, work it out. Who cares?

In my questions to KJ, I wrote about playing every hand at a table with about four or five players, on average. That requires about 16 shoes a day? It's a better way to play if you want to wait to make a big bet, and, then, leave. You see a bunch more cards without having to bet on all of them.

Btw, you can wait for a particular card count to make your big bet, but it makes a lot more sense to bet along with the count to whichever highs and lows result, as you don't know where the composition of a deck heads.

You've never played BJ? Do you know how long five hours is at a blackjack table to a card counter? You have no f'ing idea what you are talking about. Just the mental fatigue involved. The dealers shift off, every twenty minutes. If you're lucky, they won't throw in a "ringer" to completely wreck your game, if you are actually making any money.

Redietz, take your calculations, and shove those the rest of the way up your ass.

Now, Bill, that wasn't nice. I don't know what I'm talking about, but evidently I know more than you, which is really sad.

Let's go through your last post. The "five hours," which you describe as being a really long time at a blackjack table, is a long time. However, that was the absolute upper end number with very slow dealers and full tables. I used that number even though it can be argued that very rarely are tables that slow. The three to four hour number is more realistic, and kewlJ already stated numerous times that the three hours and change (the most likely number) is broken up into short sessions of 20-40 minutes.

Now, how about that, "I was wrong about the 100,000 hands?" C'mon, Bill, you can do it.

[Bill Yung]

KJ has to be one of the screwest guys ever on any gambling forum. An AP's AP.

Not only was it not his older, dead partner's money, he was paying for and looking after everyone in his life. "Yeah, I felt sorry for the guy, so, I put the title of my house in his name."

"Hey, if the pit boss asks the dealer a question about you, pipe up, and tell the pit boss whatever bullshit you want to."

One piece of shit after another.

[mickeycrimm]

You guys tacitly stick together here, so regale us with some of that math youze always talk about.

It would be useless to do so. You don't understand math.

[mickeycrimm]

Like MrV lays into the Wizard. The Wizard couldn't have a better friend. These forums are "deathly" afraid of someone standing up to them.

Btw, still waiting on an answer to my first question to KJ. He tried to deflect by saying that he knows nothing of poker. Lol. Yet, he, himself, made the above claim, with bold letters.

Incessant + delusional + fantasy = KJ, and all the other bigwig gamblers.

Fuck your questions. You're the same kind of moron blackstinkhole is.

[Bill Yung]

I seem to recall that a blackjack dealer goes through about three eight-deck shoes an hour, with about 15 hands a shoe for a full table. Be my guest, work it out. Who cares?

In my questions to KJ, I wrote about playing every hand at a table with about four or five players, on average. That requires about 16 shoes a day? It's a better way to play if you want to wait to make a big bet, and, then, leave. You see a bunch more cards without having to bet on all of them.

Btw, you can wait for a particular card count to make your big bet, but it makes a lot more sense to bet along with the count to whichever highs and lows result, as you don't know where the composition of a deck heads.

You've never played BJ? Do you know how long five hours is at a blackjack table to a card counter? You have no f'ing idea what you are talking about. Just the mental fatigue involved. The dealers shift off, every twenty minutes. If you're lucky, they won't throw in a "ringer" to completely wreck your game, if you are actually making any money.

Redietz, take your calculations, and shove those the rest of the way up your ass.

Now, Bill, that wasn't nice. I don't know what I'm talking about, but evidently I know more than you, which is really sad.
Now let's go through your last post. The "five hours," which you describe as being a really long time at a blackjack table, is a long time. However, that was the absolute upper end number with very slow dealers and full tables. I used that number even though it can be argued that very rarely are tables that slow. The three to four hour number is more realistic, nd kewlJ already stated numerous times that the three hours and change (the most likely number) is broken up into short sessions of 20-40 minutes.

The one constant theme in KJ's story is the bullshit.

[mickeycrimm]

KJ is dead here.

Kj is out working. He's not on welfare like you.

[Moses]

Bill and others. Why does this concern you so much? Not a facetious question. I've ask myself the same question many times. KJ's claims are mild to the many I've read over the years at BJTF.

A 100k hands a year is 1923 a week. No? Easily done if you don't mind sacrificing quality for quantity. So I have to ask myself. How does someone lose $29K in just 1923 hands with a $500 average large bet? And how do they expect to recoup it all back in a short time frame? Something has to give somewhere. Either the wheels came off the system or the cheese fell off his cracker. Or both. At $2,200 a game, a sports bettor would have to go 0-13 in a week to lose $29k. I've never seen that happen and that guy would not remain cool and calm if it did.

KJ excluded. I read/heard claims of those making $300k their first year of play starting out at $5 tables. Since I'm retired and bored shitless, I've offered to shadow them and drive to all these parts of the country. Never heard back. I mean, hell, who wouldn't want to make $300K?

Here is what doesn't make sense to me. Let's suppose I was making $300k at $5 tables. Why in the world would I tell anyone? The pit bosses read forums and some are already so damn twitchy they will be hanging on to a chandelier at the sound of a loud fart.

Now. My 82 year young friend and I were discussing this at breakfast yesterday. He is a great philosopher and has been around casinos for 20+ years. He categorizes it all into two group. Bull shitters and Blowhards. KJ might fall into the class of a bull shitter. These other guys are blowhards.

Obviously, it makes great forum rhetoric.

[Bill Yung]

You guys tacitly stick together here, so regale us with some of that math youze always talk about.

It would be useless to do so. You don't understand math.

Ha. You guys use math. Gambling math. You'll have to take a lesson from KJ about how to play up that aspect of yourselves. Yes, I use math, so believe whatever I say.

[redietz]

Bill, you have to recognize that you have the inability, even when dead wrong, to admit it. You're stuck with your belief system, like a religion. Bill Yung's faith that he's correct.

I have no idea if kewlJ does what he claims, but you messed up the basic premise regarding the possibility of playing the number of hands he claimed the way he claimed. You were simply wrong.

I'm wrong 45% of the time betting sports. I notice on this board, Bill Yung is never wrong. C'mon, Bill, say "I was wrong." You can do it.

[mickeycrimm]

So I'll ask again, "What could KJ say that would convince you he does what he claims?"

How is it that the long-term win-loss rate or graph for poker players is any different from any other game, given each EV? How is it that he simulates his plays when there is no (fantasy) simulator that follows his many different types of (fantasy) plays? How is it possible to "blow through" shoes of heads-up play, and, at the same time, card count one or two more tables? Making one whopper bet when the count is high, and, then, leaving, doesn't attract immediate and fatal attention? The casino can't know what he is doing? That he has any life at the casino seven days a week trying to find some way to improve on his bullshit?

I mean, ask KJ about sticking out at empty tables. He says he plays off the strip (where there are other players.) Ask him about how he plays 100,000 hands a year. He's back to heads-up.

I don't have to know what Moses is doing. Only that he and Mickey gave, in one form or another, full endorsement to KJ.

Say, what happened to KJ's big mouth to answering all of my useless "gotcha" questions?

P.S. The clock is still ticking. No?

Quit avoiding redietz' question and answer it Mr. Answer My Question.

[Bill Yung]

KJ is dead here.

Kj is out working. He's not on welfare like you.

Sure he is. Sure I am.

[Bill Yung]

So I'll ask again, "What could KJ say that would convince you he does what he claims?"

How is it that the long-term win-loss rate or graph for poker players is any different from any other game, given each EV? How is it that he simulates his plays when there is no (fantasy) simulator that follows his many different types of (fantasy) plays? How is it possible to "blow through" shoes of heads-up play, and, at the same time, card count one or two more tables? Making one whopper bet when the count is high, and, then, leaving, doesn't attract immediate and fatal attention? The casino can't know what he is doing? That he has any life at the casino seven days a week trying to find some way to improve on his bullshit?

I mean, ask KJ about sticking out at empty tables. He says he plays off the strip (where there are other players.) Ask him about how he plays 100,000 hands a year. He's back to heads-up.

I don't have to know what Moses is doing. Only that he and Mickey gave, in one form or another, full endorsement to KJ.

Say, what happened to KJ's big mouth to answering all of my useless "gotcha" questions?

P.S. The clock is still ticking. No?

Quit avoiding redietz' question and answer it Mr. Answer My Question.

That was a series of my own questions.

KJ can't answer these. Proof enough.

[mickeycrimm]

I seem to recall that a blackjack dealer goes through about three eight-deck shoes an hour, with about 15 hands a shoe for a full table. Be my guest, work it out. Who cares?

In my questions to KJ, I wrote about playing every hand at a table with about four or five players, on average. That requires about 16 shoes a day? It's a better way to play if you want to wait to make a big bet, and, then, leave. You see a bunch more cards without having to bet on all of them.

Btw, you can wait for a particular card count to make your big bet, but it makes a lot more sense to bet along with the count to whichever highs and lows result, as you don't know where the composition of a deck heads.

You've never played BJ? Do you know how long five hours is at a blackjack table to a card counter? You have no f'ing idea what you are talking about. Just the mental fatigue involved. The dealers shift off, every twenty minutes. If you're lucky, they won't throw in a "ringer" to completely wreck your game, if you are actually making any money.

Redietz, take your calculations, and shove those the rest of the way up your ass.

Must be great to draw welfare and sit around on the computer all day.

[Bill Yung]

I seem to recall that a blackjack dealer goes through about three eight-deck shoes an hour, with about 15 hands a shoe for a full table. Be my guest, work it out. Who cares?

In my questions to KJ, I wrote about playing every hand at a table with about four or five players, on average. That requires about 16 shoes a day? It's a better way to play if you want to wait to make a big bet, and, then, leave. You see a bunch more cards without having to bet on all of them.

Btw, you can wait for a particular card count to make your big bet, but it makes a lot more sense to bet along with the count to whichever highs and lows result, as you don't know where the composition of a deck heads.

You've never played BJ? Do you know how long five hours is at a blackjack table to a card counter? You have no f'ing idea what you are talking about. Just the mental fatigue involved. The dealers shift off, every twenty minutes. If you're lucky, they won't throw in a "ringer" to completely wreck your game, if you are actually making any money.

Redietz, take your calculations, and shove those the rest of the way up your ass.

Must be great to draw welfare and sit around on the computer all day.

Sure is.

[Bill Yung]

Oh, lookie, here comes KJ...

[mickeycrimm]

KJ is dead here.

Kj is out working. He's not on welfare like you.

Sure I am.

Thanks for admitting it.

[mickeycrimm]

Oh, lookie, here comes KJ...

Kj has things to do. So do I. You obviously have nothing to do.

[Bill Yung]

Kj is out working. He's not on welfare like you.

Sure I am.

Thanks for admitting it.

You're welcome.

[Bill Yung]

Oh, lookie, here comes KJ...

Kj has things to do. So do I. You obviously have nothing to do.

Nothing is a great endeavor. Same as indifference.

If you can figure out nothing, then you have it all.