Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
Originally Posted by tableplay View Post
Originally Posted by The Boz View Post

Dan hit it on the head. I’ve posted I’ve observed more wannabe AP’s who are really just degenerates in the past few months for whatever reason. A little knowledge is dangerous and these guys are full of it. But it’s by no means a bash on legitimate AP’s who would never stoop to these tricks.

Every business or profession has its share of losers that are an embarrassment to others. Mr V will tell you there are lawyers who are an embarrassment to the profession. Dan will surely admit there are professional poker players who are low lives. You certainly can’t judge every parent or retiree by Alan’s actions.

The problem is you have junkies or others desperate for money they bother valid casino customers playing machines they want. And no business wants to deal with legitimate customers complaining about being bothered. A little research and the casino is determining what the issue, and machines in questions are.

I’m sure Mickey has seen guys like this since his early AP days in Laughlin, there just seems to be more lately. The people I have met or talked to off line don’t go for garbage like this and have never given me a reason to believe they are not trustworthy. And they all make a good living playing the game without resorting to stuff like this. They are in it for the long haul and drawing attention is not good for business.

So yes Alan, they are AP’s out there and there are shitty wannabe AP’s out there ruining it for others.
There is another type of hustler (one of many types I'm sure) besides Creators. I don't have a name for them, but these are the people who say "I've already checked all those machines" (when they haven't), or "I though I saw security looking at a picture of you". etc. Basically they try and talk regular APs out of plays.
If I know the person and I know for a fact nothing is on a game, I'll let them know. We may be competition, but we're also friendly to each other. If I dont know the person, I won't say a word. Let them waste their time.

A few weeks ago, a guy gave me the "there's nothing there" speil but then got pissed when I found some.
Yes exactly, I've found some when told there weren't any. I do the same as you and if I haven't found any (and know the person), I say so. There are even some friendly civilians - I was checking bartops and a guy a few seats down from told me "they've already gone though those". I said thank you and moved on (I guess he could have been lying but he was drinking away at a modest pace).