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  1. #81
    Why would any casino care about a slot pro unless they were cheating, as in tampering with the machines?

  2. #82
    Originally Posted by Bill Yung View Post
    The problem with such a "play" is getting paid off. A jury has a lot less sympathy for a bum/gambler/crook. Maybe more sympathy for an author of gambling corn.
    It might have been that way "back in the day," but not anymore.

    The current population of Las Vegas is very mobile, not particularly affluent, and as with all Americans able to be manipulated.

    To a skillful trial attorney they're like putty in his hands.
    What, Me Worry?

  3. #83
    Bill,

    C'mon, man. Don't go misquoting your own quote. LOL.

    He said, "although it is generally a low income living." The inclusion of the word "generally" obviously implies that he is aware of exceptions.

    Besides, I don't understand your point -- the VP is explaining that it can be done, which goes against your entire bloviating. Mickey never said he was driving a million dollar RV.

    But really, you misquoted your own quote. Man, I don't know what to say. I guess next time you put something in quotes, make sure it matches what you originally put in quotes. LOL.

  4. #84
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Why would any casino care about a slot pro unless they were cheating, as in tampering with the machines?
    This is another tough question that the ap clowns here including mickey need a lot more time to spin an answer out of their fuzzy heads.

    No casino cares one bit about people who look for "must hit by" machines in their final trimester. They don't care who hits them because they get the profitable amount of play regardless.

    I was talking to the Peppermill chain slots director about this earlier in the week. There's 3 of these type machines at Western Village that "must hit by" $10,000. They reset at $7500. Casino mgmt. knows at least 6 players who come in and scout and/or play them as soon as the machines get to $9700, which they always do. From that point on the seats are packed 24/7 with people waiting in line for hours. Obviously someone eventually hits them, and casino management couldn't care less who it is. The last five have been hit by truckers or their wives staying at the motel while their big rigs were parked at Sierra Sid's.

    So no, casinos don't care, and anyone who says otherwise or makes up stories about "slot ap's getting banned" are doing nothing but blowing smoke....as usual.

  5. #85
    This comment by Rob makes sense:

    They don't care who hits them because they get the profitable amount of play regardless.

  6. #86
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    This comment by Rob makes sense:

    They don't care who hits them because they get the profitable amount of play regardless.
    Sure it does. But they only want the suckers to win them as they'll lose it all back. The sharps will walk out the door with it looking for the next mark.

  7. #87
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    This comment by Rob makes sense:

    They don't care who hits them because they get the profitable amount of play regardless.
    Sure it does. But they only want the suckers to win them as they'll lose it all back. The sharps will walk out the door with it looking for the next mark.
    Oh please. Since when do APs quit when ahead?

  8. #88
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by jbjb View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    This comment by Rob makes sense:

    They don't care who hits them because they get the profitable amount of play regardless.
    Sure it does. But they only want the suckers to win them as they'll lose it all back. The sharps will walk out the door with it looking for the next mark.
    Oh please. Since when do APs quit when ahead?
    Whether I'm ahead or behind has nothing to do with it. I quit when the play is no longer at advantage. But I'm usually ahead when that happens.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  9. #89
    Mickeycrimm I was being sarcastic in my response to jbjb.

    I don't think the casinos care one bit if an AP wins these games or not. As Rob pointed out, the casinos already made their money.

    Frankly this whole thing sounds incredible.

    Now I just don't care anymore. Keep gossiping and making your AP banner waving claims. It's par for the course.

  10. #90
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Mickeycrimm I was being sarcastic in my response to jbjb.

    I don't think the casinos care one bit if an AP wins these games or not. As Rob pointed out, the casinos already made their money.

    Frankly this whole thing sounds incredible.

    Now I just don't care anymore. Keep gossiping and making your AP banner waving claims. It's par for the course.
    Just because the casino has already made their money doesn't mean they can't make more. The casino would rather there be an extra $100 in a degenerate's pocket than an AP's, because the degenerate is more likely to keep playing the -EV game while the AP isn't going to play the -EV game.
    #FreeTyde

  11. #91
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Why would any casino care about a slot pro unless they were cheating, as in tampering with the machines?
    This is another tough question that the ap clowns here including mickey need a lot more time to spin an answer out of their fuzzy heads.

    No casino cares one bit about people who look for "must hit by" machines in their final trimester. They don't care who hits them because they get the profitable amount of play regardless.

    I was talking to the Peppermill chain slots director about this earlier in the week. There's 3 of these type machines at Western Village that "must hit by" $10,000. They reset at $7500. Casino mgmt. knows at least 6 players who come in and scout and/or play them as soon as the machines get to $9700, which they always do. From that point on the seats are packed 24/7 with people waiting in line for hours. Obviously someone eventually hits them, and casino management couldn't care less who it is. The last five have been hit by truckers or their wives staying at the motel while their big rigs were parked at Sierra Sid's.

    So no, casinos don't care, and anyone who says otherwise or makes up stories about "slot ap's getting banned" are doing nothing but blowing smoke....as usual.
    The caring thing is regional. In Vegas, at least on the strip, they care - people are getting 86ed for looking through rules screens. In Sparks, they don't give a shit.

  12. #92
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Oh please. Since when do APs quit when ahead?
    About 60% of my sessions.

  13. #93
    Originally Posted by RS__ View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Mickeycrimm I was being sarcastic in my response to jbjb.

    I don't think the casinos care one bit if an AP wins these games or not. As Rob pointed out, the casinos already made their money.

    Frankly this whole thing sounds incredible.

    Now I just don't care anymore. Keep gossiping and making your AP banner waving claims. It's par for the course.
    Just because the casino has already made their money doesn't mean they can't make more. The casino would rather there be an extra $100 in a degenerate's pocket than an AP's, because the degenerate is more likely to keep playing the -EV game while the AP isn't going to play the -EV game.
    This is just ridiculous.More AP banner waving. You're in a dream world.

  14. #94
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Oh please. Since when do APs quit when ahead?
    About 60% of my sessions.
    Excellent!

  15. #95
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Why would any casino care about a slot pro unless they were cheating, as in tampering with the machines?
    This is another tough question that the ap clowns here including mickey need a lot more time to spin an answer out of their fuzzy heads.

    No casino cares one bit about people who look for "must hit by" machines in their final trimester. They don't care who hits them because they get the profitable amount of play regardless.

    I was talking to the Peppermill chain slots director about this earlier in the week. There's 3 of these type machines at Western Village that "must hit by" $10,000. They reset at $7500. Casino mgmt. knows at least 6 players who come in and scout and/or play them as soon as the machines get to $9700, which they always do. From that point on the seats are packed 24/7 with people waiting in line for hours. Obviously someone eventually hits them, and casino management couldn't care less who it is. The last five have been hit by truckers or their wives staying at the motel while their big rigs were parked at Sierra Sid's.

    So no, casinos don't care, and anyone who says otherwise or makes up stories about "slot ap's getting banned" are doing nothing but blowing smoke....as usual.
    I have a friend who was 86'd from the Santa Ana Star because he dominated the 10K musts hits. Your supposition that the seats on 10K's are taken 24/7 once the number reaches $9700 is based in ignorance. It doesn't take days to spin one off from that number. At $25 a spin average 4000 spins. At $5 a spin average 20,000 spins. Many, but not all, 10K's are in the 93% to 94% pay range. At 9700 its about a 3% edge. At 9800 it's about a 10% edge. That's based on a $6.67 meter.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  16. #96
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Rob.Singer View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Why would any casino care about a slot pro unless they were cheating, as in tampering with the machines?
    This is another tough question that the ap clowns here including mickey need a lot more time to spin an answer out of their fuzzy heads.

    No casino cares one bit about people who look for "must hit by" machines in their final trimester. They don't care who hits them because they get the profitable amount of play regardless.

    I was talking to the Peppermill chain slots director about this earlier in the week. There's 3 of these type machines at Western Village that "must hit by" $10,000. They reset at $7500. Casino mgmt. knows at least 6 players who come in and scout and/or play them as soon as the machines get to $9700, which they always do. From that point on the seats are packed 24/7 with people waiting in line for hours. Obviously someone eventually hits them, and casino management couldn't care less who it is. The last five have been hit by truckers or their wives staying at the motel while their big rigs were parked at Sierra Sid's.

    So no, casinos don't care, and anyone who says otherwise or makes up stories about "slot ap's getting banned" are doing nothing but blowing smoke....as usual.
    I have a friend who was 86'd from the Santa Ana Star because he dominated the 10K musts hits. Your supposition that the seats on 10K's are taken 24/7 once the number reaches $9700 is based in ignorance. It doesn't take days to spin one off from that number. At $25 a spin average 4000 spins. At $5 a spin average 20,000 spins. Many, but not all, 10K's are in the 93% to 94% pay range. At 9700 its about a 3% edge. At 9800 it's about a 10% edge. That's based on a $6.67 meter.
    Mickey, don't waste your time confusing these fools with the facts. Rob is just blowing smoke out of his ass as usual. No doubt he talked to NOBODY about slots AP'ing. Let him and the rest of his crew be the jealous, degenerate losers that they are. None us are are impressed with his $30 thrift store pile of outdated junk he's got at that computer desk.

  17. #97
    Mickeycrimm wrote "I have a friend who was 86'd from the Santa Ana Star because he dominated the 10K musts hits."

    Really? What else did he do?

    I really find it absurd that a casino would do that. Are you going to say it really happened because other players complained they couldn't get a seat?

    It sounds just absurd. Sorry.

  18. #98
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Mickeycrimm wrote "I have a friend who was 86'd from the Santa Ana Star because he dominated the 10K musts hits."

    Really? What else did he do?

    I really find it absurd that a casino would do that. Are you going to say it really happened because other players complained they couldn't get a seat?

    It sounds just absurd. Sorry.
    No, dice controll, influence or whatever you want to call it is absurd. Seriously, just stick to your ploppy playing 8/5 BP game. You're oblivious to the rest of what's going on.

  19. #99
    No I think you self proclaimed APs are just getting carried away with yourselves and your self importance.

    But carry on. It's entertaining.

  20. #100
    Whatever floats your boat. But yours has many holes in it....

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