Dan deleting posts and threads ?

[Moses]

JBJB: I had to think about it for a few minutes. But I can't name one person that doesn't have a strong emotional attachment to money that isn't broke or struggling to pay bills.

KJ: It's your game and your ride. But it's seems to me it would be more prudent to find a game where you have the ability to fight variance that lead to such horrific losses. Hell, it makes me ache. lol I'm glad you were able to handle going down go down without being phased and come out on the other side in the positive. As I said before, it speaks to your uncommon valor. But wouldn't this volatility also suggest to going down again?

Did you learn anything at all about your game or yourself during that $29K week or $8,800 day losses?

[Alan Mendelson]

Kewlj if your position is that pausing or stopping for the day will not help you, please tell me if it will hurt you?

Sure it will. Just the same as if Caesars Palace quit for the day.

Caesars Palace has 169 table games and 1,324 machines. Every seat in the place has a built-in casino edge.

Each AP takes only one seat... maybe a few seats at most... and hopes that they can beat that casino edge.

Caesars can afford to be beaten by some of those "seats" which is why it never quits for the day.

So a question for you jbjb: what makes you think that the math that applies to a casino with 1,324 machines and 169 table games will work out for you in your one, two, three or possibly five seats?

[mickeycrimm]

They will get payed but not the way your dumb ass thinks. Team members are paid an hourly plus a bonus for hitting a royal. So yes, they will get paid even if a non-team member gets the royal. What you don't get about teams is there is an owner of the team....and his employee's.

Mickey, please, read what kewlj wrote. Please.

Edited to add: Mickey I'll save you the trouble. Here's what he wrote:

"Most of the successful teams and even many solo player pay themselves according to EV results. For team platers EV accumulated represents you share of contribution to team win."

He's talking about blackjack teams. I'm talking about video poker teams. As I understand it everyone on a blackjack team is also an investor in the team. Video poker teams traditionally have just had one or two people that were the brains and the bankroll and they payed people to play the game.

[mickeycrimm]

Kewlj if your position is that pausing or stopping for the day will not help you, please tell me if it will hurt you?

Sure it will. Just the same as if Caesars Palace quit for the day.

Caesars Palace has 169 table games and 1,324 machines. Every seat in the place has a built-in casino edge.

Each AP takes only one seat... maybe a few seats at most... and hopes that they can beat that casino edge.

Caesars can afford to be beaten by some of those "seats" which is why it never quits for the day.

So a question for you jbjb: what makes you think that the math that applies to a casino with 1,324 machines and 169 table games will work out for you in your one, two, three or possibly five seats?

There are thousands of slot parlours in Oregon, Illinois, West Virginia, that have just 5 or six machines in them, nothing else. These slot parlours are not in business to lose money. They are open 7 days a week. The machines have a built in casino advantage. You don't need hundreds of machines and table games in your casino to insure the edge manifests itself. It's the same for advantage players. I make a profit damn near everyday of the year.

[Alan Mendelson]

Congratulations on making a profit "damn near everyday of the year" mickeycrimm. You should give kewlj lessons.

[MaxPen]

Congratulations on making a profit "damn near everyday of the year" mickeycrimm. You should give kewlj lessons.

You should just shut up and keep dumping your pension check at Red Rock. You continue to criticize that which you know nothing about. Mickey gets large percent edges 5%+ with a lot @ 20%+ but gets in minimal total dollar amount action and KJ is working a 1-1.5% edge on a larger amount of total action. The variance and expectations are completely different. All of this has been explained in detail to you ad nauseum. You really are a moron and should be ignored at this point. If you had half the persistence that you demonstrate being an idiot, in business, you would have been able to pay your son.

You really are an idiot and should just be ignored at this point.

[mickeycrimm]

Kewlj, I'm sorry, but you cannot use the analogy of an hourly worker. You are not working construction or retailing. You have no assurance of anything.

Au contraire, bison breath. If I have a 1% edge on a 10K wager per hour then the play is worth $100 an hour. This is another measuring stick AP's use to determine if they want to get involved in a play.

[mickeycrimm]

The problem here is the civilian crowd adding emotion to currency. Money is an inanimate object with no emotion. To us, it's just a tool.

This is a great explanation, jbjb. It is basically what I attempted to convey to Alan, in post # 191, except I took several paragraphs and it still was not as precise as this single line.

"Money is the mule that plows the ground that let's the crops grow."
Puggy Pearson, a country boy gambler with a 3rd grade education. But he had big city smarts.

[Alan Mendelson]

Kewlj, I'm sorry, but you cannot use the analogy of an hourly worker. You are not working construction or retailing. You have no assurance of anything.

Au contraire, bison breath. If I have a 1% edge on a 10K wager per hour then the play is worth $100 an hour. This is another measuring stick AP's use to determine if they want to get involved in a play.

Like I said Mickey you should give lessons to kewlj. He had about a 1% edge, right? But he admits to months of losing but you win "damn near every day of the year."

Bison breath? Anything like bottom shelf booze breath?

[mickeycrimm]

One last question. I promise.

You say you have an advantage because you have the skill to count cards. When you were losing $8800 in one day or $29,000 in one week did you ever stop to think your card counting was off?

When he won a million dollars over 14 years did he ever stop to think his card counting was off?

[mickeycrimm]

Congratulations on making a profit "damn near everyday of the year" mickeycrimm. You should give kewlj lessons.

He's a blackjack player. I know very little about blackjack. I'm a machine pro. Low risk high reward plays are my specialty. From the very beginning I looked for ways to take the downside variance out of it. To do it you have to be able to look for, recognize, and exploit unusually large advantages.

Take a $5 video poker player with a .5% advantage. His expectation on a 2 million dollar wager is a 10K profit. Let's break it down to 800 hands per hour which is a 20K wager per hour. His bankroll is taking huge fluctuations, to the tune of thousands of dollars per hour, to gain the expectation. And it's highly possible he could book a loser through a 2 million dollar wager.

I know how to make 10K on a 70K wager. Thats because I'm working edges about 30 times greater than the $5 video poker player. Such a small wager compared to his means my bankroll don't take the huge fluctuations that his does. I would have to give away to much information to the public to thoroughly explain how its done. But my downside risk is somewhere between slim and none. I bitch and complain when I only make $200 for the day.

[blackhole]

There is no doubt that Alan and Rob are the only reasons this site even gets traffic. Other than a great deal of comic relief, this site offers nothing to do with Las Vegas, and Dan knows it. If Alan and Rob didn’t respond in the first two or three pages of this thread, the thread would’ve died at page one.

It’s amazing how these intelligent AP’s who call Alan, Rob, and everyone else who doubts their bullshit stories complete foolish idiots. Yet, these alleged intelligent AP’s can’t wait to join the feeding frenzy of endless repeated arguments with the group of foolish idiots like a fish tank full of starving piranha.

This site has nothing to offer but hopefully traffic for Dan with some type of hope for future advertising or buy-out. Having people rejected from other sites like the great Kewlj, and Mickey as your primary alleged AP contributors, then through in Reditz from Mars should be enough to confirm what I’m saying here. Imagine Mickey Crimm being the main character of anything? This is the only site that will tolerate them anymore.

Dan is using Alan and Rob for the bait to feed his little group of AP piranha all in the name of traffic. Nothing else makes any sense.

[mickeycrimm]

There is no doubt that Alan and Rob are the only reasons this site even gets traffic. Other than a great deal of comic relief, this site offers nothing to do with Las Vegas, and Dan knows it. If Alan and Rob didn’t respond in the first two or three pages of this thread, the thread would’ve died at page one.

It’s amazing how these intelligent AP’s who call Alan, Rob, and everyone else who doubts their bullshit stories complete foolish idiots. Yet, these alleged intelligent AP’s can’t wait to join the feeding frenzy of endless repeated arguments with the group of foolish idiots like a fish tank full of starving piranha.

This site has nothing to offer but hopefully traffic for Dan with some type of hope for future advertising or buy-out. Having people rejected from other sites like the great Kewlj, and Mickey as your primary alleged AP contributors, then through in Reditz from Mars should be enough to confirm what I’m saying here. Imagine Mickey Crimm being the main character of anything? This is the only site that will tolerate them anymore.

Dan is using Alan and Rob for the bait to feed his little group of AP piranha all in the name of traffic. Nothing else makes any sense.

LOLOLOL! Rob made himself the laughing stock of the gambling world not only here, but also at vpFREE, LVA Sports Forums and Wizard of Vegas. They laugh at him, not with him. He is known as a quack because of his gambling theories. And this is the only place left he has to post because he's been lifetime banned from the others. He's been pitched off more forums than anyone else here. Alan is known as his slapstick sidekick. Not even Rob is as dumb about gambling as Alan. And now you, blackho, because of your ignorance and stupidity on all things gambling, have become identified with them, and are collectively known as The Confederacy of Dunces.

[Alan Mendelson]

I'm sorry to say blackhole that you make sense. When I wanted to shut down the forum he begged me to let him have it so his many articles about CET (which are now out of date and without relevance and value) would not be lost. He also told me when he was banning certain people including Rob and Keystone -- but then let them return. He said they would be supervised and restricted in their posting and that turned out to be false. Meanwhile traffic and participation here plummeted, which he denies but I know the truth. Dan has had problems winning at the WSOP and his gambling struggles impacted his heath and he admitted it. With poker in decline he started to post sports picks and while he looked at the site often (I could see when) he did nothing to actually do anything to monitor it, except for token gestures that were quickly ignored.

Ironically his hope for traffic from APs only killed what was once a large and active forum. Dan has failed in this venture. It's over. He could shut it down tomorrow and only eight posters would care.

By the way, the limited views that these pages get come from keyword searches. If these were true participants at least some would join in the discussions or more importantly ask new questions.

Honestly, when has any newcomer outside of a spammer posted a new question here.

Congratulations Dan, your out of date posts are all here and you haven't got a snowball's chance on Las Vegas Boulevard on August 25th of finding a buyer or even getting new people to participate.

Edited to add: I gave this forum to Dan free of charge. As soon as I did was immediately saving $400 a year in hosting fees that I paid Dan to host it on his server. So Dan is losing my $400 a year while he preserves his out of date articles and has a place for his sports picks. I guess it was important for him to have all that.

[mickeycrimm]

I'm sorry to say blackhole that you make sense. When I wanted to shut down the forum he begged me to let him have it so his many articles about CET (which are now out of date and without relevance and value) would not be lost. He also told me when he was banning certain people including Rob and Keystone -- but then let them return. He said they would be supervised and restricted in their posting and that turned out to be false. Meanwhile traffic and participation here plummeted, which he denies but I know the truth. Dan has had problems winning at the WSOP and his gambling struggles impacted his heath and he admitted it. With poker in decline he started to post sports picks and while he looked at the site often (I could see when) he did nothing to actually do anything to monitor it, except for token gestures that were quickly ignored.

Ironically his hope for traffic from APs only killed what was once a large and active forum. Dan has failed in this venture. It's over. He could shut it down tomorrow and only eight posters would care.

By the way, the limited views that these pages get come from keyword searches. If these were true participants at least some would join in the discussions or more importantly ask new questions.

Honestly, when has any newcomer outside of a spammer posted a new question here.

Congratulations Dan, your out of date posts are all here and you haven't got a snowball's chance on Las Vegas Boulevard on August 25th of finding a buyer or even getting new people to participate.

Edited to add: I gave this forum to Dan free of charge. As soon as I did was immediately saving $400 a year in hosting fees that I paid Dan to host it on his server. So Dan is losing my $400 a year while he preserves his out of date articles and has a place for his sports picks. I guess it was important for him to have all that.

One of the big problems here is Singer jumps into all educational/informative content threads and trashes them. He has a proven track record of it and it will continue to occur as long as he is allowed to post. Who wants to see their well-intentioned thread get trashed by him? It's the number one obstacle to constructive dialogue on this forum. And the number one reason you don't see new members posting here. They don't want to get trashed by Singer.

How about you, singer and blackho voluntarily leaving the forum and we'll see what happens.

[RS__]

Ironically his hope for traffic from APs only killed what was once a large and active forum.

This forum was never "large and active". lolol wtf are you talking about?

[blackhole]

How about you, singer and blackho voluntarily leaving the forum and we'll see what happens.

Of course you and your gang of eight will get together via PM and start off posting like crazy (about what I don't know) trying to prove a point. But, that would only last a short period.

Lets face it Mickey, without us here for you and your gang to trash and tell stories of how stupid we are, what have you got? Pictures, or some expired two-bit slot +EV story? Redditz with his stone age record looking for backdoor advertising? Who wants to hear another fairy tale from the fairy himself? (Kewlj)

I'm all for your suggestion above and hope Alan and Rob agree along with a couple of others.

Let's put Dan out of his misery with this place so he could concentrate on his health and poker.

[mickeycrimm]

How about you, singer and blackho voluntarily leaving the forum and we'll see what happens.

Of course you and your gang of eight will get together via PM and start off posting like crazy (about what I don't know) trying to prove a point. But, that would only last a short period.

Lets face it Mickey, without us here for you and your gang to trash and tell stories of how stupid we are, what have you got? Pictures, or some expired two-bit slot +EV story? Redditz with his stone age record looking for backdoor advertising? Who wants to hear another fairy tale from the fairy himself? (Kewlj)

I'm all for your suggestion above and hope Alan and Rob agree along with a couple of others.

Let's put Dan out of his misery with this place so he could concentrate on his health and poker.

Hey, blackho! Having another shitty day at home? Hey, you've only got another ten days to sit out then the check will arrive. You should have a fun two days in the casino before you have to sit out another month. Good luck.

[blackhole]

Hey, blackho! Having another shitty day at home? Hey, you've only got another ten days to sit out then the check will arrive. You should have a fun two days in the casino before you have to sit out another month. Good luck.

Comments like that are what make you special. Meanwhile, I could buy another house with just my credit card.

[Moses]

There is no doubt that Alan and Rob are the only reasons this site even gets traffic. Other than a great deal of comic relief, this site offers nothing to do with Las Vegas, and Dan knows it. If Alan and Rob didn’t respond in the first two or three pages of this thread, the thread would’ve died at page one.

Rob is definitely a hoot. Blackhole reminds me of the father on the Raymond show. Sometimes I wonder if Alan isn't intentionally trying to stir up KJ in order to create more posts. KJ was on another site a few years ago. One thing is for sure. When he posts something, several replies follow. Zee was another that seemed to possess this skill. Almost like an artform. The frustrating part was/is, in the end there is never a resolution, only volumes of rhetoric. There was a thread at BJTF the other day that ended with a DON S comment. I thought, o good, maybe a conclusion where Don S wil chew some silly asses and provide answers. HE merely complimented them on their spelling.

Dan is using Alan and Rob for the bait to feed his little group of AP piranha all in the name of traffic. Nothing else makes any sense.

Good to know. Humor is essential. But I have no time for bullshit and my patience has run out from over 20k of it at BJFT from two posters. Another site provides conclusions and solutions. But few hardly ever posts. Evidently, manure is key ingredient that keeps a forum growing? It works on my lawn.