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  1. #121
    Originally Posted by Dankyone View Post
    No, The counter wins the same exact number of hands over time...(Btw he loses more hands than he wins, he just bets more when he has the advantage.)
    Well for heavens sake THAT IS WHAT I was asking about... INCREASING BETS.

    OK, so he will do that when the count is good.

    I hope he gets plenty of good counts. I'm sorry he lost $29,000.

  2. #122
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    "Being due" is exactly what kewlj's "accumulating EV" is all about. Now, where is the sacred math in being due?

    Ironically kewlj had criticized Rob's play as "being due" when Rob is criticized for moving up to higher denominations to wipe out previous losses.

    Frankly kewlj does a good job of doing exactly what he accuses Rob of doing.
    Alan, you are back stuck on stupid. "Being due" is your idea, not KJ's. It's Rob's idea, not KJ's. Thinking that moving up in denomination will wipe out losses is what "being due" is all about. Get a clue.

    You are so focused on the short term that it makes you a long term loser.

    Where did you get the idea that someone with a proven track record of making a million dollars playing blackjack over an extended period of time cannot recover from a short term 29K loss?
    Mickeycrimm I'm asking a question and you just have to attack me, don't you? You have become the #1 troll here. Please block my posts.

  3. #123
    Alan is trying to draw me into discussion with his comments regarding the negative swing (29,000) that I experiences about a month ago. I think he is simply trolling as he has no real interest in blackjack, but what is crystal clear is that he has no understanding about blackjack advantage play.

    Alan thinks there is some finite number where a players results should be at all times. That is not how it works. There is a range (called standard deviation) of normal results based on amount of play. We figure EV, which in itself is an estimate. That is accumulated EV. But there is a range of "normal" results based on that play that accumulated EV will fall in the middle of.

    With a small amount of play or small sample size of a few sessions, days or even weeks, this range (standard deviation) will span both winning and losing possibilities. That is why players playing with an advantage can still lose in the short term as well as the opposite, players playing at a disadvantage can still win in the short term. But the more you play, the more the math takes over and those negative results become less likely. As you play more (accumulate EV) that range or standard deviation will increase to where it only includes positive result possibility and that range will continue to grow higher as you continue to play and accumulate EV.

    So my results both before and after that $29,000 losing week were within this standard deviation range. Completely normal. There is no need "to make up any losses" or "win anything back". Results are completely within the range that they should be...completely normal by mathematical standards. You just keep playing, keep accumulating EV and that range (standard deviation) grows larger and larger.

  4. #124
    Accumulated EV is the target. Standard deviation is the completely normal (mathematical) range surrounding that target or accumulated EV.

  5. #125
    Originally Posted by kewlJ View Post
    Alan is trying to draw me into discussion with his comments regarding the negative swing (29,000) that I experiences about a month ago. I think he is simply trolling as he has no real interest in blackjack, but what is crystal clear is that he has no understanding about blackjack advantage play.
    .
    My point is one has to be careful not to let these forum posts affect their game. Suppose I don't believe KJ. What does that have to do with my game? Suppose I do believe KJ? Should I sell my house, buy a skateboard, and move to Vegas? Hell, there was a time I was giving more thought to Zee's game and issues than my own. How frigging stupid is that?

  6. #126
    I'm sorry kewlj if you think there's a conspiracy against you, but I've been asking questions longer than you've been alive and I was well paid for doing it.

    Good luck.

  7. #127
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I've been asking questions longer than you've been alive and I was well paid for doing it.
    That was then: this is now.

    You left any sense of "journalistic objectivism" by the side of the road long ago; you've rested on your laurels for so long you've contracted bed sores.

    These days you have morphed into a bitter, seemingly desperate gambler whose need to experience schadenfreude far eclipses his search for truth.
    What, Me Worry?

  8. #128
    Alan and KJ. I hate the word DUE and try to keep it out of my head. I love the word "Just DO It" and exercise it to the max. Everything I "do" is in my control. This doesn't mean it's all roses and parades in the winners circle. There is a limit at the top and bottom for each session. The bottom's are like timeouts. They had their run. Now let me collect myself and evaluate why. Quite often, I was go back and win the next session and then the rubber match.

    I'm probably a direct opposite to the mindset you'll read on WOV and BJTF. But I'm still here. Many of those mindsets are gone. gone. gone.
    Last edited by Moses; 11-20-2018 at 10:28 AM.

  9. #129
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I'm sorry kewlj if you think there's a conspiracy against you, but I've been asking questions longer than you've been alive and I was well paid for doing it.

    Good luck.
    You'd think by now that you would be able to comprehend an answer.


    But alas, Tard's gonna Tard. No wonder your life's effort resulted in nothing other than hanging on a craps table.

  10. #130
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    I'm sorry kewlj if you think there's a conspiracy against you, but I've been asking questions longer than you've been alive and I was well paid for doing it.

    Good luck.
    I am well aware that you were a journalist. How objective, I have no idea as I am not familiar with your work. But one thing that I do know without question is that your actions and behavior on this site towards me and other AP's, has not been that of an objective journalist, objectively asking questions out of curiosity and to gain knowledge. Your 'role' on this site has been an agenda to discredit AP's and I have been one of your targets almost since the day I joined, certainly since the night you jumped up at 3am to run to the casino to take pictures, incorrectly thinking they would discredit me and my claims. And you know what....this is not just my opinion. Dan Druff, who has no dog in this fight and is for the most part fairly objective even stated something along the lines that you have an agenda against AP's. I don't have time right now to go back and find it, but you can ask Dan for yourself if you like.


    I will also add this. The only part of your career that I am familiar with is your Alan's best Buy's show and only because you advertise that in our face in every one of your nonsensical posts. So I took a look a while back and that is not the work of a journalist. No way! No how! So I don't know when or how, but at some point you left that rank of objective journalism and crossed over to whatever it is that you are now, which is anything but objective.

  11. #131
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    "Being due" is exactly what kewlj's "accumulating EV" is all about. Now, where is the sacred math in being due?

    Ironically kewlj had criticized Rob's play as "being due" when Rob is criticized for moving up to higher denominations to wipe out previous losses.

    Frankly kewlj does a good job of doing exactly what he accuses Rob of doing.
    Alan, you are back stuck on stupid. "Being due" is your idea, not KJ's. It's Rob's idea, not KJ's. Thinking that moving up in denomination will wipe out losses is what "being due" is all about. Get a clue.

    You are so focused on the short term that it makes you a long term loser.

    Where did you get the idea that someone with a proven track record of making a million dollars playing blackjack over an extended period of time cannot recover from a short term 29K loss?
    Mickeycrimm I'm asking a question and you just have to attack me, don't you? You have become the #1 troll here. Please block my posts.
    No, Alan. You started the troll with "'Being due' is what KJ's 'accumulated EV' is all about." It's a pure out troll. You are the one that equates being due with accumulated EV, not KJ. You are either dumb as fuck or trolling. Take your pick.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  12. #132
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    No, Alan. You started the troll with "'Being due' is what KJ's 'accumulated EV' is all about." It's a pure out troll. You are the one that equates being due with accumulated EV, not KJ. You are either dumb as fuck or trolling. Take your pick.
    Twisting words and manipulating what was actually said? THAT doesn't sound like Alan does it? (we should do a poll on this one)

  13. #133
    [/QUOTE]Where did you get the idea that someone with a proven track record of making a million dollars playing blackjack over an extended period of time cannot recover from a short term 29K loss?[/QUOTE]

    And please explain in precise detail where this anonymous guy "kew" has ever produced even one iota of evidence that has "proven" any type of "track record" whatsoever that he has won "a million dollars" playing by over an "extended period of time". Mickey, can ya do that....can ya do that mickey??

    Alan, I believe you asked the tough question once again, and once again, you caught this collection of anonymous idiots with their pants down as they desperately try to save AP face. Danky ever got her tit in a wringer when she suggested a $30k win can come just as much as a $30k loss could....in one week without increasing bets! Then we were treated to the theory that kew was AHEAD when he lost $29k, so it doesn't really matter much at all These people will reach for any straw that's out there.

    And everyone of these fools knows full well that kew is simply making up his "bj pro life" fantasy here anyway, because they know it's impossible to bet $25, 25, 25, 25, then suddenly throw down a $500 bet when the player knows the count just turned good, the computer upstairs knows the count just turned good, and the eyes in the sky knows the count just turned good. That stuff was stopped years ago and everybody knows it. These clowns just want the "theory" of doing it to live on, and kew wants everybody to believe he does it.

  14. #134
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post

    Alan, you are back stuck on stupid. "Being due" is your idea, not KJ's. It's Rob's idea, not KJ's. Thinking that moving up in denomination will wipe out losses is what "being due" is all about. Get a clue.

    You are so focused on the short term that it makes you a long term loser.

    Where did you get the idea that someone with a proven track record of making a million dollars playing blackjack over an extended period of time cannot recover from a short term 29K loss?
    Mickeycrimm I'm asking a question and you just have to attack me, don't you? You have become the #1 troll here. Please block my posts.
    No, Alan. You started the troll with "'Being due' is what KJ's 'accumulated EV' is all about." It's a pure out troll. You are the one that equates being due with accumulated EV, not KJ. [B]You are either dumb as fuck or trolling. Take your pick.

    I’ll take Door #1 for $50

  15. #135
    If it looks like a duck and walk likes a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck. And accumulating EV because it will make you win is absolutely saying you're due to win. Otherwise why would you be accumulating EV?

    Quack, quack.

  16. #136
    Where did you get the idea that someone with a proven track record of making a million dollars playing blackjack over an extended period of time cannot recover from a short term 29K loss?[/QUOTE]

    And please explain in precise detail where this anonymous guy "kew" has ever produced even one iota of evidence that has "proven" any type of "track record" whatsoever that he has won "a million dollars" playing by over an "extended period of time". Mickey, can ya do that....can ya do that mickey??

    Alan, I believe you asked the tough question once again, and once again, you caught this collection of anonymous idiots with their pants down as they desperately try to save AP face. Danky ever got her tit in a wringer when she suggested a $30k win can come just as much as a $30k loss could....in one week without increasing bets! Then we were treated to the theory that kew was AHEAD when he lost $29k, so it doesn't really matter much at all These people will reach for any straw that's out there.

    And everyone of these fools knows full well that kew is simply making up his "bj pro life" fantasy here anyway, because they know it's impossible to bet $25, 25, 25, 25, then suddenly throw down a $500 bet when the player knows the count just turned good, the computer upstairs knows the count just turned good, and the eyes in the sky knows the count just turned good. That stuff was stopped years ago and everybody knows it. These clowns just want the "theory" of doing it to live on, and kew wants everybody to believe he does it.[/QUOTE]

    Robocchio, please explain in precise detail that you have produced even one iota of evidence that you won a million dollars.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  17. #137
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    Otherwise why would you be accumulating EV?
    There are numerous reasons why a player or team would track EV. Most of the successful teams and even many solo player pay themselves according to EV results. For team platers EV accumulated represents you share of contribution to team win. For solo players it is a way to be sure you don't pay yourself more than you have actually "earned", taking variance instead of money won. But you, Alan, won't understand this.

    Since I pay myself and my partner differently, breaking our bank at the end of the year and distributing all profits and then starting each year with a new bank, this isn't really a consideration for me.

    But another reason why players, both solo and team track accumulated EV is to know where they are in respect to expectation...To know if you are within that "normal range determined by standard deviation. I actually use 2 stand deviations as my results should be within 2 standard deviations 95% of the time. I really have only experienced two occasions that my long-term results were outside 2 standard deviations, one in each direction.

    So why does a player or team need to know if results are within expectation? No it is not to make betting adjustments because you believe you are due. THAT is pure gambling voodoo (and exactly what Singers claims are based on). But there are legitimate reasons for tracking accumulated EV. In my case, if and when I find myself running significantly below accumulated EV, I like take a second look at examining my play and see if I am missing anything. Most notably possible cheating, but also maybe just having gotten sloppy and created holes in my game that I can correct or be more vigilant about.

    Now running above EV? For my situation, since we don't take payments based on accumulated EV as many teams and professional players do, we really don't need to take any action when running above EV. Just sit back and enjoy and hope it continues. But it is still nice to know where you are running in regards to expectation.

  18. #138
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    If it looks like a duck and walk likes a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck. And accumulating EV because it will make you win is absolutely saying you're due to win. Otherwise why would you be accumulating EV?

    Quack, quack.
    Alan, Alan, Alan that is not learning to duck. Hey what happened to Willie Fung U? aka Bill Yung. Say it slowly...VERY slowly.

  19. #139
    Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson View Post
    If it looks like a duck and walk likes a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck. And accumulating EV because it will make you win is absolutely saying you're due to win. Otherwise why would you be accumulating EV?

    Quack, quack.
    Alan, Alan, Alan that is not learning to duck. Hey what happened to Willie Fung U? aka Bill Yung. Say it slowly...VERY slowly.
    Probably spewing dribble to himself at the Penaltybox.
    "More importantly, mickey thought 8-4 was two games over .500. Argued about it. C'mon, man. Nothing can top that for math expertise. If GWAE ever has you on again, you can be sure I'll be calling in with that gem.'Nuff said." REDIETZ

  20. #140
    Why must Kewlj continue on with this endless nonsense? Why is it you can’t realize that no one here gives a flying fuck about you, your bj game, or the cocks you suck or once sucked?

    No one here even plays bj. No one here is going to teach a 15-year million-dollar professional anything about bj. No one here is asking you for bj advice. So why just keep going on and on about all this bullshit you type about?

    Pleas Kewlj, just stop it. It’s so burnt and played out. JUST STOP IT!! How much more meaningless on this forum do you want to be? Why can’t you realize that the people fucking with you enjoy the merry go round and round. Grow some balls and just STOP.

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