Tiffany's gift cards

[AxelWolf]

I have $2800 in Tiffany's gift cards or store credit if anyone wants them for 40% off.

My Wife does not really care for that kinda stuff, the more expensive stuff that she does have just sits in its original boxes in storage.

[The Boz]

Many people know Axel, trust him and know it’s a good deal IF you are into Tiffany’s merchandise. That said it’s a limited market and $2800 doesn’t go that far there are you are overpaying for the name.

The man’s not risking a reputation he built over many years for a couple thousand dollars.

[AxelWolf]

Many people know Axel, trust him and know it’s a good deal IF you are into Tiffany’s merchandise. That said it’s a limited market and $2800 doesn’t go that far there are you are overpaying for the name.

The man’s not risking a reputation he built over many years for a couple thousand dollars.

Thanks Boz.
That's much appreciated.

And so others know....

I have sold many thousands in various different gift cards
Coach, Macy's, Tiffanys, etc to various members on the forum and non members. All the gift cards were earned legit at a casino. I got an offer for 50% from an AP but I thinks that's too low. I can probably get 50% from a pawn shop if it's a gold item. That's what the girl who worked there said.

$1,700 is already spoken for. I do ussully have people lined up who buy them, but things didn't work out this year.
Im sure they are flush on all the other gift cards I sold them. Ill have more gift cards soon from various other more reasonably priced store's.

I even have 2k in Amazon Gift cards but Ill probably just hang on to those unless I get a good offer. I just sold 1k in gas cards for 15% off because I didn't have that gas station near me. And I tend to lose(misplace )shit like that.

If anyone who's actually interested in the cards has any concerns I can make sure you no longer have any.

I won't even consider selling anything to anyone I don't have a good feeling about.

[mickeycrimm]

It can be quite lucrative to work a gift card promotion then sell the gift cards. Axel has had many business dealings with members of the forums and has a spotless reputation.

[AxelWolf]

It can be quite lucrative to work a gift card promotion then sell the gift cards. Axel has had many business dealings with members of the forums and has a spotless reputation.

Thank you Mickey for your support. Happy Thanksgiving.

[pkspins]

They have simple jewelry too, if you haven't had her look and/or can't find a buyer.
I got a $500 one to burn off comps figuring I'd just sell it since I don't wear fancy stuff either. But they had simple gold chains and charms/pendants, every day type jewelry, so it was easy to spend it.

[MaxPen]

I have bought many gift cards from Axel and have never had a problem. Most recently a couple Gucci purses worth which made the wife unit very happy.

[AxelWolf]

I have bought many gift cards from Axel and have never had a problem. Most recently a couple Gucci purses worth which made the wife unit very happy.

Thanks Max I appreciate your support and business. I think you spanked me on that deal. Had I waited or went to ebay I could have done much better.


I hope you are enjoying the upper class tranny dress up time with my discounted upper clas swag. You the ...man/girl.

[The Boz]

Happy Thanksgiving anyways to the good ones out there. You know who you are.

Enjoy the day, whatever you are doing.

Me, I’ve already had a walk on the beach and am going to grill some burgers and watch some football.

[monet]

Happy Thanksgiving anyways to the good ones out there. You know who you are.

Enjoy the day, whatever you are doing.

Me, I’ve already had a walk on the beach and am going to grill some burgers and watch some football.

[mickeycrimm]

Thanksgiving is a working holiday for me. It's always a busy 4 days for the casinos so the money is good. I've got a comped Thanksgiving buffet coming and I'll be taking breaks today to watch some football. I think we're not far from a kickoff now. Happy Turkey Day everyone, even the Confederacy of Dunces.

[Rob.Singer]

I have a Thanksgiving thought/question related to axel's first post.

When these comps came rolling in, I assume it was part of some theoretically positive ap play. Of course, he didn't say whether he won cash or phantom bucks for that/those particular "play or plays" and from the AP-rhetoric we understand that to them it doesn't matter anyway.

However, shoving these comps out the door at a discount tells me that whatever value they placed on the theory of getting them is now worth 40% less. That could mean that the AP was actually playing a -EV game, or he played one of those small edges that "good ap's just don't play."

Truthfully, if you were penning this to a blog, how do you guys handle this? Or is there some kind of slick wordsmithing that's needed?

[MaxPen]

I have a Thanksgiving thought/question related to axel's first post.

When these comps came rolling in, I assume it was part of some theoretically positive ap play. Of course, he didn't say whether he won cash or phantom bucks for that/those particular "play or plays" and from the AP-rhetoric we understand that to them it doesn't matter anyway.

However, shoving these comps out the door at a discount tells me that whatever value they placed on the theory of getting them is now worth 40% less. That could mean that the AP was actually playing a -EV game, or he played one of those small edges that "good ap's just don't play."

Truthfully, if you were penning this to a blog, how do you guys handle this? Or is there some kind of slick wordsmithing that's needed?

Did Alan hijack your account or something? Are you parked in his driveway, jacking his internet, for the Holidays?
Why do the gift cards have to be calculated at full value when deciding whether the play is a go or no go? Wise Up

[RS__]

Anyone I know in the AP world doesn’t include stuff like gift cards, hotels, food, or other comps when determining if a play is good or not, nor the value of the play. OCCASIONALLY there may be something where you have to put in minimal coin in to get lots of food, but 99.9% of the stuff isn’t going to be that. Comps are viewed as extra benefits like “the play is worth 5%, but will also probably get ______ on top of the 5%”.

Exception would be if you’re playing specifically for gift cards, in which case you’ll already know what gift cards to expect and the going rate for them. Gas, grocery, etc. are 100% of value because you’re going to be spending money on that stuff anyway. WalMart and Best Buy are pretty high % because they sell for something like 90-95%+ of face value.

[Rob.Singer]

Then you don't know Bob Dancer, Jean Scott, Elliott Fromm, Frank Kneeland and a few more AP's. All of them use the full value of gift cards every time they're part of the equation, in their claims of turning -EV plays into positive ones. But not the higher-up folks here. Selling them at discounts just because someone needs the money destroys the going-in position. It's like Dancer claiming to have made $150,000 in a calendar year, then getting thrown out of the house in a nasty divorce, thereby being scalped of a quick quarter mil. Anybody think he ever went back and adjusted any of his numbers claims because his ex is the one who hit "his" $400k jackpot?

Sense says these are excuses. We keep getting lectured by the self-proclaimed ap's here that "no AP would ever go into a play without knowing the exact value of the play." Now we can easily discount max's usual stupid reply because of his envy. And I strongly suspect that if the cast of characters above say they use gift cards in their calculations, all ap's do. What is unclear is why I can't get another SD implement answer without a world of contradiction from other ap-gurus.

[MaxPen]

Then you don't know Bob Dancer, Jean Scott, Elliott Fromm, Frank Kneeland and a few more AP's. All of them use the full value of gift cards every time they're part of the equation, in their claims of turning -EV plays into positive ones. But not the higher-up folks here. Selling them at discounts just because someone needs the money destroys the going-in position. It's like Dancer claiming to have made $150,000 in a calendar year, then getting thrown out of the house in a nasty divorce, thereby being scalped of a quick quarter mil. Anybody think he ever went back and adjusted any of his numbers claims because his ex is the one who hit "his" $400k jackpot?

Sense says these are excuses. We keep getting lectured by the self-proclaimed ap's here that "no AP would ever go into a play without knowing the exact value of the play." Now we can easily discount max's usual stupid reply because of his envy. And I strongly suspect that if the cast of characters above say they use gift cards in their calculations, all ap's do. What is unclear is why I can't get another SD implement answer without a world of contradiction from other ap-gurus.

What are you prattling on about now? I wouldn't consider most of those people you named as AP's. They are more like system hucksters, such as you tried to be. The difference is your failure. Most of them are succeeding while you continue trying to yank your dick while prattling on with a bunch of truckers in your man closet on wheels.

[mickeycrimm]

Then you don't know Bob Dancer, Jean Scott, Elliott Fromm, Frank Kneeland and a few more AP's. All of them use the full value of gift cards every time they're part of the equation, in their claims of turning -EV plays into positive ones. But not the higher-up folks here. Selling them at discounts just because someone needs the money destroys the going-in position. It's like Dancer claiming to have made $150,000 in a calendar year, then getting thrown out of the house in a nasty divorce, thereby being scalped of a quick quarter mil. Anybody think he ever went back and adjusted any of his numbers claims because his ex is the one who hit "his" $400k jackpot?

Sense says these are excuses. We keep getting lectured by the self-proclaimed ap's here that "no AP would ever go into a play without knowing the exact value of the play." Now we can easily discount max's usual stupid reply because of his envy. And I strongly suspect that if the cast of characters above say they use gift cards in their calculations, all ap's do. What is unclear is why I can't get another SD implement answer without a world of contradiction from other ap-gurus.

Per the usual you are ass backwards. No one calculates the full value of gift cards into the play if they plan on selling them at a discount. It's the discounted price thats calculated into the play, dumass. You are clutching at straws and looking stupid as ever.

And Bob kept the house. Shirley moved to California, idiot. Remember? Bonnie helped her pack. No way that fact escaped you. You are just straight up lying about it, Robocchio.

And on the 400K royal they were playing as a team on his bankroll. No way that escaped you either.

[Rob.Singer]

Then you don't know Bob Dancer, Jean Scott, Elliott Fromm, Frank Kneeland and a few more AP's. All of them use the full value of gift cards every time they're part of the equation, in their claims of turning -EV plays into positive ones. But not the higher-up folks here. Selling them at discounts just because someone needs the money destroys the going-in position. It's like Dancer claiming to have made $150,000 in a calendar year, then getting thrown out of the house in a nasty divorce, thereby being scalped of a quick quarter mil. Anybody think he ever went back and adjusted any of his numbers claims because his ex is the one who hit "his" $400k jackpot?

Sense says these are excuses. We keep getting lectured by the self-proclaimed ap's here that "no AP would ever go into a play without knowing the exact value of the play." Now we can easily discount max's usual stupid reply because of his envy. And I strongly suspect that if the cast of characters above say they use gift cards in their calculations, all ap's do. What is unclear is why I can't get another SD implement answer without a world of contradiction from other ap-gurus.

Per the usual you are ass backwards. No one calculates the full value of gift cards into the play if they plan on selling them at a discount. It's the discounted price thats calculated into the play, dumass. You are clutching at straws and looking stupid as ever.

And Bob kept the house. Shirley moved to California, idiot. Remember? Bonnie helped her pack. No way that fact escaped you. You are just straight up lying about it, Robocchio.

And on the 400K royal they were playing as a team on his bankroll. No way that escaped you either.

You're like the apologist who never gives up.

Instead of reading whatever your idol Dancer writes you should be reading the divorce decree....or even talk to Shirley's family as I have. You act like he got everything and gave her nothing, which is just the opposite of what occurred, only because you want it to be your way and not the actual way. You want it to be that the woman got screwed, because of your bad/inactive life with women. He does not have the house you moron. Look it up--it's all old news.

Shirley's family says she hit the royal and the W2G was issued in her name because she was sitting at the machine playing it while he "instructed". It was played on money just won from a $25 royal where the W2G was issued to him because he was the player and she sat at the machine next to him watching. That's clear evidence that she won the $400k. Again, old news. Get your facts right next time. You'd have learned that trait if you weren't a high school dropout driving a junker with over 100,000 miles on it.

Now it's time to put your thinking cap on. All the apologist "AP's" are running on to defend "sure thing/good guy/AP-extraordinaire" Axel, who supposedly is well-known and has a plethora of contacts in the gambling community. Yet for some reason, because neither he nor his wife don't know how to appreciate the artistic and overall value of Tiffany products--and I agree, for a street gambler that's not at all unusual--with ALL these "highly bankrolled" and "highly respected" friends and associates he's said to have, HE NEEDS TO COME ON A FORUM WITH EIGHT POSTERS AND BEG TO SELL THEM?

mickey, if that doesn't smack of needing cash FAST....what does??

But I know this is not something the anonymous bunch here can fathom, so just push it under the rug.

[mickeycrimm]

Then you don't know Bob Dancer, Jean Scott, Elliott Fromm, Frank Kneeland and a few more AP's. All of them use the full value of gift cards every time they're part of the equation, in their claims of turning -EV plays into positive ones. But not the higher-up folks here. Selling them at discounts just because someone needs the money destroys the going-in position. It's like Dancer claiming to have made $150,000 in a calendar year, then getting thrown out of the house in a nasty divorce, thereby being scalped of a quick quarter mil. Anybody think he ever went back and adjusted any of his numbers claims because his ex is the one who hit "his" $400k jackpot?

Sense says these are excuses. We keep getting lectured by the self-proclaimed ap's here that "no AP would ever go into a play without knowing the exact value of the play." Now we can easily discount max's usual stupid reply because of his envy. And I strongly suspect that if the cast of characters above say they use gift cards in their calculations, all ap's do. What is unclear is why I can't get another SD implement answer without a world of contradiction from other ap-gurus.

Per the usual you are ass backwards. No one calculates the full value of gift cards into the play if they plan on selling them at a discount. It's the discounted price thats calculated into the play, dumass. You are clutching at straws and looking stupid as ever.

And Bob kept the house. Shirley moved to California, idiot. Remember? Bonnie helped her pack. No way that fact escaped you. You are just straight up lying about it, Robocchio.

And on the 400K royal they were playing as a team on his bankroll. No way that escaped you either.

You're like the apologist who never gives up.

Instead of reading whatever your idol Dancer writes you should be reading the divorce decree....or even talk to Shirley's family as I have. You act like he got everything and gave her nothing, which is just the opposite of what occurred, only because you want it to be your way and not the actual way. You want it to be that the woman got screwed, because of your bad/inactive life with women. He does not have the house you moron. Look it up--it's all old news.

Shirley's family says she hit the royal and the W2G was issued in her name because she was sitting at the machine playing it while he "instructed". It was played on money just won from a $25 royal where the W2G was issued to him because he was the player and she sat at the machine next to him watching. That's clear evidence that she won the $400k. Again, old news. Get your facts right next time.

You just can't help yourself, can you. More lies and tall tales from Robocchio. So after years of you trashing Bob AND Shirley in the forums her family just sat right down with you and had a nice chat....giving you all the juicy details of the divorce....and even showing you the divorce decree. Yeah, you betcha, Robocchio. Shirley hates you just as much as Bob does. That nose is getting longer and longer.

I never said she didn't hit the 400K royal, dumbo. I said they were playing as a team and on his bankroll. According to the book, which I can go back to and easily dig it out, after he hit the 100K royal he gave her a certain amount of money to potshot the $100 machine. Who the W2-G's were issued to are irrelevant. He taught her how to play. He bankrolled her. Your harping on "She hit the royal! She hit the royal!" is a red herring and totally irrelevant.

And I never said that in the divorce he got the goldmine and she got the shaft. What is public knowledge is the financial end of the divorce went smoothly. The communal property was divided equally and she moved to California.

[mickeycrimm]

Now it's time to put your thinking cap on. All the apologist "AP's" are running on to defend "sure thing/good guy/AP-extraordinaire" Axel, who supposedly is well-known and has a plethora of contacts in the gambling community. Yet for some reason, because neither he nor his wife don't know how to appreciate the artistic and overall value of Tiffany products--and I agree, for a street gambler that's not at all unusual--with ALL these "highly bankrolled" and "highly respected" friends and associates he's said to have, HE NEEDS TO COME ON A FORUM WITH EIGHT POSTERS AND BEG TO SELL THEM? mickey, if that doesn't smack of needing cash FAST....what does?? But I know this is not something the anonymous bunch here can fathom, so just push it under the rug.

So if someone is selling something they are hard up for cash? You must have been hard up so you sold that camper, right? He could easily sell the stuff on eBay. And I didn't see any begging going on. That's just your phony embellishment. What you don't know and won't learn is how these kind of advantage plays work.