Sequential Royal hit at Red Rock $217,592

[mickeycrimm]

I recently was put on a play by an alleged AP who made me swear to secrecy in an attempt to convince me how wrong I am about AP’s.

Combined with the casinos promotion I should average approximately $65.00 per hour. Even if you were paying me $65.00 cash per hour regardless of the outcome out of your pocket, I wouldn’t want to do it. I did it just to see if the math is what they say it is.

I played as fast as I could, and after my first day on this play I put in about 8 hours minus lots of piss breaks and dinner. Totally fatigued I called it a day and got a full night sleep ready to continue the following day. After another 9.5-hour day of grinding my ass off I closed out after including what I earned with the promotion totally down $2,325.00 dollars. If I can’t convert the free play into cash when I get it that number could get worse.

He said I didn’t give it a fair chance and needed to play more.

Describe the play.

[mickeycrimm]

Blackhole I'm expecting you will be told two things:

1. It was a long term play and variance went against you in the short term

2. You played incorrectly

Thanks for posting.

Something doesn't add up. First, blackhole doesn't describe the play. 2nd, this thing about the AP telling him he was showing him how wrong he is about AP's. For all we know this AP, if he really exists, might have had a hard on for blackhole and set him up. And last but not least blackhole said he played just to see "if the math is what they say it is." He didn't have to play to figure that out. He could have just done the math himself. That is, if he knows how to do it. Something is rotten in Denmark.

[blackhole]

Sorry Mick ... sworn to secrecy. So, fuck-off.

We actually meet up in Vegas and he's a hell of a nice and funny guy.

[The Boz]

And no comment on how much FP he is getting. Why would he not be able to turn it into cash? Or a good percentage of it.

I don’t know any AP’s who are going to give a play away to prove a point other than possibly Monet. And if it was him, Blackhole is a bigger idiot than he already comes off as trusting him.

Somewhere in Henderson and in a beaten up RV at a reststop, tissues suffered the ultimate humiliation at the hands of Robbo and Alan after reading this.

[blackhole]

And no comment on how much FP he is getting. Why would he not be able to turn it into cash? Or a good percentage of it.

I don’t know any AP’s who are going to give a play away to prove a point other than possibly Monet. And if it was him, Blackhole is a bigger idiot than he already comes off as trusting him.

Somewhere in Henderson and in a beaten up RV at a reststop, tissues suffered the ultimate humiliation at the hands of Robbo and Alan after reading this.

What a complete fool you are. Oh yea, and you could fuck-off too.

[The Boz]

Sorry Mick ... sworn to secrecy. So, fuck-off.

We actually meet up in Vegas and he's a hell of a nice and funny guy.

Looks like I was right in my assumption. Desperate for anyone to trust him. And exactly what he does. Let me guess, he’s picking up the FP.

[blackhole]

Sorry Mick ... sworn to secrecy. So, fuck-off.

We actually meet up in Vegas and he's a hell of a nice and funny guy.

Looks like I was right in my assumption. Desperate for anyone to trust him. And exactly what he does. Let me guess, he’s picking up the FP.

Maybe you didn't hear me the first time ... FUCK-OFF

[mickeycrimm]

One of the myths Robocchio perpetuates is that casinos are always clamoring to get AP money inside their casinos. This is what one large chain thinks about AP's being suckers. Boyd just added this new rule to their slot club:

24. Boyd reserves the right to determine that anyone who is deemed in the sole and absolute discretion of the Boyd management to be an "advantage player," to be ineligible to participate in the promotion or drawing, or to have his/her ability to participate in the promoton or drawing otherwise limited. Any such "advantage player" who is already a B Connected member prior to the commencement of the promotion or drawing may be notified by Boyd prior to the commencement of the promotion or drawing of any such ineligibility or limitation determination. Otherwise, any such "advantage player" will be notified by Boyd of any ineligibility or limitation determination as soon as possible after such determination is made. An "advantage player" is described as a skilled or knowledgeable player who will find legal ways to gain mathematical advantages while gambling.
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Boyd would not have come up with this new rule if they were making money off AP's. Robocchio and Alan are always saying the math works for the casinos because of stength in numbers. If you have a hundred AP's under your roof working a promotion that has positive expectation to them....some will win, some will lose, but you will not make money off them as a whole. You will lose money. And that's why Boyd came up with this new rule. I predict that other companies will start copycatting this rule.

[The Boz]

Sorry Mick ... sworn to secrecy. So, fuck-off.

We actually meet up in Vegas and he's a hell of a nice and funny guy.

Looks like I was right in my assumption. Desperate for anyone to trust him. And exactly what he does. Let me guess, he’s picking up the FP.

Maybe you didn't hear me the first time ... FUCK-OFF

Look at it this way, cheap lesson learned if true and less than you lose on an average Foxwoods weekend.

Or we can believe you flew to Vegas to meet “Mr X” from a forum, a supposed AP, that you believe isn’t a profession. And then you spend 2 entire days playing VP because this person you believe is a liar told you to. For what? To prove your point?

Mighty convenient you now have a story that fits your narrative. And of course you’re sworn to secrecy. Either way, it’s total Bullshit. Now go get your shine box asshole.

[blackhole]

Hey Boz .... You're so far out of the loop you don't even realize how much of an ass you're making of yourself. FUCK-OFF

[The Boz]

And to whomever set this stupid fuck up, congratulations to you! They say never wise up a sucker. but you took it a step further, making him think he was being helped, while you screwed him over. Well played!

They say a sucker is born every minute, well Mr Hole has been one for over 60 years and this might have been the biggest fucking he ever got, and now he still says you are a "Nice & Funny Guy". Not to steal your play, but hopefully you are going to give him the losses back, say it came from the FP and you hit a big one to keep the trust going and set him up for a bigger hit. The fuck will think you could have kept the winnings and he would have never knew it. Again Well played!

[mickeycrimm]

Combined with the casinos promotion I should average approximately $65.00 per hour. Even if you were paying me $65.00 cash per hour regardless of the outcome out of your pocket, I wouldn’t want to do it. I did it just to see if the math is what they say it is.

You wouldn't do it....but you did do it? You're as phony as a whore in a convent.

[RS__]

Lol any AP who goes in on a play with blackasshole is no AP at all. At least not a smart one.

[The Boz]

Hey Boz .... You're so far out of the loop you don't even realize how much of an ass you're making of yourself. FUCK-OFF

I'm not the ass down $2300 to "Prove a point". Yea, I know it's nothing to you.

Mr Big Long Island Real Estate Tycoon, flying to Vegas to "Prove a point". I respect you Hole, in your case, I do believe you have legitimate assets. But you're still a sap.

[Rob.Singer]

One of the myths Robocchio perpetuates is that casinos are always clamoring to get AP money inside their casinos. This is what one large chain thinks about AP's being suckers. Boyd just added this new rule to their slot club:

24. Boyd reserves the right to determine that anyone who is deemed in the sole and absolute discretion of the Boyd management to be an "advantage player," to be ineligible to participate in the promotion or drawing, or to have his/her ability to participate in the promoton or drawing otherwise limited. Any such "advantage player" who is already a B Connected member prior to the commencement of the promotion or drawing may be notified by Boyd prior to the commencement of the promotion or drawing of any such ineligibility or limitation determination. Otherwise, any such "advantage player" will be notified by Boyd of any ineligibility or limitation determination as soon as possible after such determination is made. An "advantage player" is described as a skilled or knowledgeable player who will find legal ways to gain mathematical advantages while gambling.
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Boyd would not have come up with this new rule if they were making money off AP's. Robocchio and Alan are always saying the math works for the casinos because of stength in numbers. If you have a hundred AP's under your roof working a promotion that has positive expectation to them....some will win, some will lose, but you will not make money off them as a whole. You will lose money. And that's why Boyd came up with this new rule. I predict that other companies will start copycatting this rule.

And what have you to say about the other 4000 casinos that have all the "lucrative promos" the ap's of the world can handle....they're run by crazy mixed-up screwballs?

Wise up loner.

[blackhole]

Mr Big Long Island Real Estate Tycoon, flying to Vegas to "Prove a point". I respect you Hole, in your case, I do believe you have legitimate assets. But you're still a sap.

This tycoon also owns a home in Nevada. Fuck-Off you annoying flea.

[mickeycrimm]

One of the myths Robocchio perpetuates is that casinos are always clamoring to get AP money inside their casinos. This is what one large chain thinks about AP's being suckers. Boyd just added this new rule to their slot club:

24. Boyd reserves the right to determine that anyone who is deemed in the sole and absolute discretion of the Boyd management to be an "advantage player," to be ineligible to participate in the promotion or drawing, or to have his/her ability to participate in the promoton or drawing otherwise limited. Any such "advantage player" who is already a B Connected member prior to the commencement of the promotion or drawing may be notified by Boyd prior to the commencement of the promotion or drawing of any such ineligibility or limitation determination. Otherwise, any such "advantage player" will be notified by Boyd of any ineligibility or limitation determination as soon as possible after such determination is made. An "advantage player" is described as a skilled or knowledgeable player who will find legal ways to gain mathematical advantages while gambling.
_____________________________________

Boyd would not have come up with this new rule if they were making money off AP's. Robocchio and Alan are always saying the math works for the casinos because of stength in numbers. If you have a hundred AP's under your roof working a promotion that has positive expectation to them....some will win, some will lose, but you will not make money off them as a whole. You will lose money. And that's why Boyd came up with this new rule. I predict that other companies will start copycatting this rule.

And what have you to say about the other 4000 casinos that have all the "lucrative promos" the ap's of the world can handle....they're run by crazy mixed-up screwballs?

Wise up loner.

I pass on 99% of promotions because they aren't worth the paper they are written on. Remember Dancer claiming he and others got backed off at Suncoast? You said that you have "friends" in middle management at Boyd that told you they don't backoff AP's and that Dancer was lying. But now they've brazenly come right out and publicly stated that they will backoff AP's. They aren't trying to keep it hush hush anymore like they did with Dancer and others. Call your "friends" at Boyd then get back to us.

[The Boz]

Mr Big Long Island Real Estate Tycoon, flying to Vegas to "Prove a point". I respect you Hole, in your case, I do believe you have legitimate assets. But you're still a sap.

This tycoon also owns a home in Nevada. Fuck-Off you annoying flea.

You sound a little angry that no one believes your story. Calm down, it’s not worth it. The Fuck You’s and Fuck Off’s show desperation to be accepted.

[blackhole]

The Fuck You’s and Fuck Off’s show desperation to be accepted.

Fuck-you and fuck-off.

[Alan Mendelson]

I am sure there are some APs who make money, just as I am sure there are a few people who successfully influence dice. Just as I question the claims of so many people who believe they are DIs I also question the claims of so many who say they are APs.

Don't you find it a bit curious that we have on this forum a half dozen or so APs who are overall winners including one legendary mickeycrimm who never had a losing year or was it never had a losing month or a losing week?

Give credit to Rob Singer who openly admits to huge losses before developing his system... which I still don't know or follow. And give credit to kewlj who admits to losses that if happened to me would put me in a comatose state.

But the rest of you... you don't lose? Okay. Carry on.